What happened to the corner fade?

[BobPSU92]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

 

[richmin3]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

Did anyone else breath a huge sigh of relief after last weeks game with Auburn's fourth and goal fade pattern and no flag? From where I was standing their receiver should get an oscar for his performance and honorable mention goes to their Qb for the Pf out of bounds call. I guess they practice this.

 

[flinter]

It’s faded out!

 

[BBG65]

I was never a fan of that play. I don't have numbers, but I think the success % is too low.

 

[psu00]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

It was Auburn’s turn to use it on their 4th down play.

 

[BobPSU92]

It was Auburn’s turn to use it on their 4th down play.

Yurcich needs to pay attention.

 

[psuro]

The Corner Room Fade should be a menu option.

 

[Alphalion75]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

Shhhhhhh.....let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Did anyone else breath a huge sigh of relief after last weeks game with Auburn's fourth and goal fade pattern and no flag? From where I was standing their receiver should get an oscar for his performance and honorable mention goes to their Qb for the Pf out of bounds call. I guess they practice this.

It was very obvious to the television crowd that if a flag was to be thrown - and I’m on board that no flag was the appropriate call - then it should’ve been on the Auburn receiver (who clearly initiated contact and ultimately pulled Brisker down). Plus, the contact was within 5 yards from the LOS, and occurred before the ball was thrown, so again, no call was the right call.

Then again, trusting that crew to make even the simplest of correct calls was a whole other leap of faith.

 

[HartfordLlion]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

I'm not sure if we have any WR short enough to properly execute that play.

 

[Nitwit]

It went the way of the shovel pass.

 

[berklion]

Did anyone else breath a huge sigh of relief after last weeks game with Auburn's fourth and goal fade pattern and no flag? From where I was standing their receiver should get an oscar for his performance and honorable mention goes to their Qb for the Pf out of bounds call. I guess they practice this.

The play on the fade was after the PF on Smith. If JPJ hadn't gone down with him, he would have gotten PI. First thing I thought was that they both took a flop. JPJ anticipating the Auburn's WR flop. Outstanding!!

Edit - That was Brisker, not JPJ

 

[The Spin Meister]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

As soon as we run in a fullback for the corner fade.....🤷🏽

 

[MontereyLion]

Did anyone else breath a huge sigh of relief after last weeks game with Auburn's fourth and goal fade pattern and no flag? From where I was standing their receiver should get an oscar for his performance and honorable mention goes to their Qb for the Pf out of bounds call. I guess they practice this.

I re-watched that play last night. Their called play was to get interference. Their player pulled Brisker down. They weren't trying to score they were trying to get 4 more downs. The problem was Bo Nix over threw the pass, making it uncatchable. Watch the play.

 

[BobPSU92]

It went the way of the shovel pass.

The Wildcat is back. Does that ever work the second time in a game?

 

[BobPSU92]

As soon as we run in a fullback for the corner fade.....🤷🏽

Corner fade to Mustipher. 😁

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

The play on the fade was after the PF on Smith. If JPJ hadn't gone down with him, he would have gotten PI. First thing I thought was that they both took a flop. JPJ anticipating the Auburn's WR flop. Outstanding!!

Edit - That was Brisker, not JPJ

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t defenders still allowed to jam receivers at the LOS? So with that, Brisker should’t have been called regardless of the flop(s), because the contact occurred within 5 yards of the LOS, and was initiated prior to the pass being thrown (thus, no PI).

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here since the tendency on our board is to see all plays through blue and white glasses. (I will concede that, even with orange colored glasses, PSU got the short end of the stick on officiating overall.)

But on this play we don't really know what Auburn had in mind. I doubt that it was to draw a flag.

I think PI could have been called on Brisker. He cut off the route and wasn't playing the ball. Perhaps the receiver was trying to pull Brisker out of the way to complete the route.

This reminds me of "charging" in basketball. Both players are moving and it's tough to tell the guilty party. Usually the call goes against the defense. Bias against the defense is typical in football as well. Once the ball is in the air both players are supposed to be considered equal receivers.

I saw a play in the OSU game where a receiver ran right into a defender who was just holding his ground, and he was called for defensive pass interference.

 

[berklion]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t defenders still allowed to jam receivers at the LOS? So with that, Brisker should’t have been called regardless of the flop(s), because the contact occurred within 5 yards of the LOS, and was initiated prior to the pass being thrown (thus, no PI).

The rules were off the table, just an eye test🤓

 

[BudatPSU]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get the some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

Hopefully it is resting in peace next to the drop kick.

 

[NittPicker]

The Corner Room Fade should be a menu option.

It also sounds like a great name for a creamery flavor.

 

[lein]

We don't have any receivers short enough to run the corner fade.

 

[BobPSU92]

We don't have any receivers short enough to run the corner fade.

We need to step down our recruiting.

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

It went the way of the shovel pass.

the shovel pass can be awesome, but I really can't wait until we bust out the hook and ladder

 

[LIONJELLO]

you'll know when we are running it, our three shortest receivers will be in the game and it'll be directed at the shortest of the lot LOL

 

[The Spin Meister]

the shovel pass can be awesome, but I really can't wait until we bust out the hook and ladder

Statue of Liberty!

 

[lazydave841]

I thought Brisker turned his hips and was facing the QB, near perfect execution of how to cover that play. I don't remember him cutting the WR off at all. But it's been 4 days...

 

[83wuzme]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

Chris Godwin went to the NFL.
That’s what happened.

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

Statue of Liberty!

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remember when they beat Oklahoma and ran BOTH the hook and ladder and statue of liberty on the final drive?

 

[BobPSU92]

the shovel pass can be awesome, but I really can't wait until we bust out the hook and ladder

Just don’t get caught watching the paint dry.

🥴

 

[sss]

It’s been replaced by the 3rd and short, QB under center. Equally (in)effective.

 

[nittanyacacia]

I was never a fan of that play. I don't have numbers, but I think the success % is too low.

 

[tboyer]

Rewatching the auburn game. We had goal-to-go several times. No corner fades. What’s the deal? Franklin has some smallish receivers to try the corner fade on 1st and goal at the 3, 2nd down, etc. Nothing.

Here’s hoping it’s an ASS. BEATING. on Saturday so that Clifford can get some reps in with the corner fade. Need to be ready for conference play.

The corner fade made sense when PSU had receivers like Godwin and Blacknall with size and ball skills.

But in 2018 and 2019 it got called a lot simply because PSU's poor befuddled OC didn't have a better idea.

The play they ran Saturday -- the spread/misdirection to create a cutback lane for Noah Cain -- that's one example of a better idea.

Auburn didn't have a better idea and clearly ran that fade to draw the foul. But there's a problem running it so close to the goal line because the defense absolutely has the right to jam the receiver and then backpedal into position to block the receiver from the corner of the end zone. People seem to think Brisker has an obligation to get out of the receiver's path -- he does not. What Brisker did was absolutely textbook and, as the broadcast crew pointed out, he wasn't going to get called because he was facing the ball and playing the ball. By contrast, on the subsequent play the Auburn corner was absolutely playing Dotson, didn't turn his head to even try to make a play on the ball -- so the flag was inevitable.