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Who impressed you the most? Carver edition.

Best good guy

  • Hildebrandt

    Votes: 13 7.4%
  • RBY

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • NICK!

    Votes: 25 14.3%
  • Star!

    Votes: 32 18.3%
  • AB

    Votes: 6 3.4%
  • Mad Max

    Votes: 121 69.1%

  • Total voters
    175
He seems pretty self aware that people outside of Iowa don't like him:



Can't hate too much, every team has one of him. Camera loves him so he'll keep eating it up.
 
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Agreed. Master rider with that frame once he gets the boots in, it is gonna be a nasty ride! GREAT pickup and nice well-mannered kid. Does he have another year of eligibility back? Love to have him for another year!
Pretty sure this is his last year, but if not and Robbie Howard is back and healthy at 125, he will win the spot.
 
Here's my take Hilde was awesome he really worked at it until he got the turn. He is definitely a Cael kind of guy and a great team player. Rby is fine he will bring it to desanto next time car er definitely played a role in keeping desanto and crazy mat monkey with the shoe in the match. I'm with some others on Nick he is tough to beat and I see him pulling away as he moves forward. One of my all time favorites. Great leader and leads by example. CStar is a beast doesn't matter that is was close that was carver again. CStar is just up believable with mat iq and being aware of what's going on. AB we'll enough said. He continues to impress and never looks like he is worried even when it's close. Another great leader on the team and leads by example. Dean I had my doubts about as I really like beard but dean has shown he has that mat brown gutsy way about him where he just doesn't give up. That's the third time I was worried about him this year as he was behind but he just pulls it together in the end. Finally Kerk. I know he isn't on the list but another carver moment. He was on his way to another easy take em down let em up match but got into upper body. If he doesn't go there he wins hands down. Next time he will have been coached into handling cass like he did mason.
 
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So basically Terry looking at the camera?
Yeah, pretty much. If you watched the BTN broadcast, you'd see him acting like a caged animal when the cameras were on him. Like he was ready to kill the camera guy. It was really bizarre. Terry definitely ain't right in the head. A gif of this would be hilarious.
 
The answer is Dean by a landslide. We needed him to close the door - and he did it with authority.

All the bluster from the twins about tough wrestling, and the bullying which happened previously in the meet, got swept away during the 30 seconds Dean tortured Warner in front of everyone. You want tough wrestling? Well, here it is ****sticks - in spades!
 
The answer is Dean by a landslide. We needed him to close the door - and he did it with authority.

All the bluster from the twins about tough wrestling, and the bullying which happened previously in the meet, got swept away during the 30 seconds Dean tortured Warner in front of everyone. You want tough wrestling? Well, here it is ****sticks - in spades!
I was there so I was looking forward to watching the replay from my DVR when I got home. Sadly my DRV only recorded up to the end of 184. I will have to follow one of the link people posted for select replays, hopefully they have 197!
 
The answer is Dean by a landslide. We needed him to close the door - and he did it with authority.

All the bluster from the twins about tough wrestling, and the bullying which happened previously in the meet, got swept away during the 30 seconds Dean tortured Warner in front of everyone. You want tough wrestling? Well, here it is ****sticks - in spades!
This x1000. That shriek of terror from Warner was him channeling the entire Iowa fanbase as they watched the dual and the win streak slip away.
 
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Since the Warner howl has come up several times, and I've replayed the sequence multiple times on BTN+...I've still not figured out exactly what was going on there.

Yes, Warner was being manhandled and eventually turned, but never saw that reaction before. Looking at body positioning the whole time, he was definitely being horsed but not being bent in any position that looked that gosh-awful painful. As much as it pains me to go all conspiratorial, all I'm left with is playing to the ref hoping for a "potentially dangerous" call.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" -- Sherlock Holmes
 
Friendly reminder that Jacob Warner is not wearing that knee brace for a fashion statement. I have no idea of the extent of the injury, but just felt compelled to add another possible option other than just trying to get a ref stoppage.
That certainly crossed my mind, too, but bottom line is that there was nothing egregiously wrong with what Dean was doing with the leg, knee, ankle, or angle, and so it was just boiling down to Warner either conceding or Rivera calling PD. He obviously saw it the way most of us did, and allowed the concession to proceed at the wrestler’s pace.
 
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He married Dan Mayo's daughter.

Friendly reminder that Jacob Warner is not wearing that knee brace for a fashion statement. I have no idea of the extent of the injury, but just felt compelled to add another possible option other than just trying to get a ref stoppage.
Thanks jrod. It certainly does add context. I'd delete my post except that you quoted me. This is the last I'll post on the matter.
 
Thanks jrod. It certainly does add context. I'd delete my post except that you quoted me. This is the last I'll post on the matter.

No reason to delete(but I did unquote) if that is how you see it. Optics of the situation are pretty spot on to what you posted. It could very well be exactly as you say.
 
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I was there so I was looking forward to watching the replay from my DVR when I got home. Sadly my DRV only recorded up to the end of 184. I will have to follow one of the link people posted for select replays, hopefully they have 197!
Not sure if you DVR'd the TnT documentary, but the 184-hvy matches are there for me. But I missed the end of the documentary
 
Of the options in the poll the answer is Dean for the sweet bow and arrow. But the real answer is Cass. Nobody predicted Tony would overpower Kerk to his back twice and ride him like that. I gave Kerk a 75% chance of winning that beforehand. Silly me
 
That certainly crossed my mind, too, but bottom line is that there was nothing egregiously wrong with what Dean was doing with the leg, knee, ankle, or angle, and so it was just boiling down to Warner either conceding or Rivera calling PD. He obviously saw it the way most of us did, and allowed the concession to proceed at the wrestler’s pace.
Rivera said something after he screamed didn't he. I thought I heard him say keep it legal or something. Either that or suck it up buttercup lol. But seriously Rivera said something
 
Rivera said something after he screamed didn't he. I thought I heard him say keep it legal or something. Either that or suck it up buttercup lol. But seriously Rivera said something
He said keep it legal.

I’ve watched a couple of times and while I’m 90% that it was the torque on the back, 10% of me wonders if he was struggling breathing.
 
Yeah. I was hoping that they were going to show him after Max put the B&A on Warner.
You must have missed it, because they did show him during that sequence:
the-dude-give-up.gif
 
Friendly reminder that Jacob Warner is not wearing that knee brace for a fashion statement. I have no idea of the extent of the injury, but just felt compelled to add another possible option other than just trying to get a ref stoppage.
Fair data point, jrod. But if memory serves, Warner didn’t vocalize any pain with Dean putting pressure on the knee until back points were imminent. Also, didn’t he see Cass successfully use the Hawk Howl just a couple weeks earlier to avoid giving up back points? Might’ve been hard for Warner to resist going there again with the dual on the line.
 
Fair data point, jrod. But if memory serves, Warner didn’t vocalize any pain with Dean putting pressure on the knee until back points were imminent. Also, didn’t he see Cass successfully use the Hawk Howl just a couple weeks earlier to avoid giving up back points? Might’ve been hard for Warner to resist going there again with the dual on the line.
I’ll have to rewatch, but I could have sworn there were some yelps as soon as Dean grabbed the ankle/heel and started to elevate. Almost like there wasn’t a chance for pain, yet, but the anticipation of what was about to happen caused a reflex scream.

And then the pain became real.
 
I’ll have to rewatch, but I could have sworn there were some yelps as soon as Dean grabbed the ankle/heel and started to elevate. Almost like there wasn’t a chance for pain, yet, but the anticipation of what was about to happen caused a reflex scream.

And then the pain became real.
That’s how I remember it, but I haven’t got back to rewatch it. At the time, I remember thinking he was yelling before any actual pain would have been inflicted.
 
Since the Warner howl has come up several times, and I've replayed the sequence multiple times on BTN+...I've still not figured out exactly what was going on there.

Yes, Warner was being manhandled and eventually turned, but never saw that reaction before. Looking at body positioning the whole time, he was definitely being horsed but not being bent in any position that looked that gosh-awful painful. As much as it pains me to go all conspiratorial, all I'm left with is playing to the ref hoping for a "potentially dangerous" call.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" -- Sherlock Holmes
Maybe TnT have a taser wired in to their singlets for times such as that.
 
Since the Warner howl has come up several times, and I've replayed the sequence multiple times on BTN+...I've still not figured out exactly what was going on there.

Yes, Warner was being manhandled and eventually turned, but never saw that reaction before. Looking at body positioning the whole time, he was definitely being horsed but not being bent in any position that looked that gosh-awful painful. As much as it pains me to go all conspiratorial, all I'm left with is playing to the ref hoping for a "potentially dangerous" call.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" -- Sherlock Holmes
Is the Warner Howl similar to the Ohio Howl?

Ohio Howl

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Since the Warner howl has come up several times, and I've replayed the sequence multiple times on BTN+...I've still not figured out exactly what was going on there.

Yes, Warner was being manhandled and eventually turned, but never saw that reaction before. Looking at body positioning the whole time, he was definitely being horsed but not being bent in any position that looked that gosh-awful painful. As much as it pains me to go all conspiratorial, all I'm left with is playing to the ref hoping for a "potentially dangerous" call.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" -- Sherlock Holmes
I am supposing it was a variation of DeSanto's "I don't want to get pinned", but instead of screaming "no mas" while trying to tap the mat Warner just went for a scream.
 
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This thread reminds me that I have a fifth of Howler Head whisky in the barn. Hum, 200 foot elevation drop going down. Yep better get the 4 by.
 
Friendly reminder that Jacob Warner is not wearing that knee brace for a fashion statement. I have no idea of the extent of the injury, but just felt compelled to add another possible option other than just trying to get a ref stoppage.
Upon further review . . .

Check out the sequence at 1:09 left in the 3rd. As Dean attempts the TD, there is this awkward moment at 1:05 remaining where Warner just rolls flat to his back, arms outstretched, like he is in severe pain as Dean tries to convert the single on the wrapped leg.

Assuming that wasn’t one of Warner’s “Why am I like this” emotional breakdowns, it would seem the knee was pretty tender even before the bow and arrow was applied. 🤷‍♂️
 
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