Will Levis
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UK tonight did their impression of PSU vs Illinois last year. Top 3 WRs are now injured to some degree after short arming every pass thrown their way. OL just gave up 7 sacks, maybe 8 to a team that had 4 all season. Defense eventually wore down after a 3/12 3rd down percentage.
To be honest, UK never recovered from the 1st play fumble that led to a 1 play TD drive. That and a missed FG is your scoring difference.
I wouldn't be shocked if Levis is out again next week if his primary weapons are out. Miss State is 5-1 and demolished them last year.
To be honest, UK never recovered from the 1st play fumble that led to a 1 play TD drive. That and a missed FG is your scoring difference.
I wouldn't be shocked if Levis is out again next week if his primary weapons are out. Miss State is 5-1 and demolished them last year.
Their OLine gave up 4 official sacks (and 2 more that were basically sacks) to Miami Ohio….they’re just not very good.
So I guess UK doesn’t have a quality backup QB either huh? Perhaps Penn State’s season went downhill last year after Clifford got hurt as well
Correct but Kentucky isn't expected to have a decent backup QB. I'm not mad we lost last year when Clifford went down. I'm mad Roberson looked like he had never thrown a football in his life.
They're Kentucky--they're excited when they have one capable QB let alone 2
And Sheron was infinitely better than Roberson
So now in addition to speaking for the Penn State Fan base, you've taken on speaking for the Kentucky Fans as well?
Levis epitomizes the word "sleeper." He is projected to go early in the first round.
I think if he had the same supporting cast that Kerry Colins had in 1994 he would produce the same results. We can see what happens to Kentucky when Levis is not available.
Levis is even better when the leadership intangibles get added. That's why NFL teams rank him high.
It made me sick when we had no means to develop him. At the time Franklin was still bent on having an option quarterback, a run threat. This hampered the development of our quarterbacks. Fortunately this seems to have changed.
We can see the results already. We were able to attract a top notch pro-style quarterback. And we are not making the same mistake in restricting his playing time. Future looks brighter. Franklin has evolved.
I think if he had the same supporting cast that Kerry Colins had in 1994 he would produce the same results. We can see what happens to Kentucky when Levis is not available.
Levis is even better when the leadership intangibles get added. That's why NFL teams rank him high.
It made me sick when we had no means to develop him. At the time Franklin was still bent on having an option quarterback, a run threat. This hampered the development of our quarterbacks. Fortunately this seems to have changed.
We can see the results already. We were able to attract a top notch pro-style quarterback. And we are not making the same mistake in restricting his playing time. Future looks brighter. Franklin has evolved.
The UK board is ready to fire the OC, the line coach, and they think Levis sat to preserve his draft status after last night.
Venture over there. They expect everything every fan base does now.
To the NNNNNCAC Levis is the "big one" that got away. If he stayed and Cliff went to Kentucky, only the names would change.
Kentucky was over rated, as is Levis. Stoops is only guilty of building Kentucky into a solid football program. Now their fanboys have moved on to elite status and declare...."we deserve better."
I always thought Levis was a good QB but he never got much of a shot. When he did get in he was used as a fullback with power running. And with us running an option system that did not fit his style he was very smart to move on to a team that had a system which fit his style.
Weird but with the new system brought by a new OC he could have excelled here if given the chance. Would love to hear how the discussion with Yurcich went during his interviews before he was hired. Did he insist on being able to install his system? I am sure he was given some assurances of such but just how much? So glad he is here now and running his offense.
College is for the development of the students. Levis is going to get a contract worth more in one year than the rest of us will get in a lifetime. If you want to call that "over rated" then I would take that rating every day.
Fixed it.
Will left. He didn't stay long enough to see what Yurcich was going to do. His choice is seemingly going to work out for him. He's made some NIL money. He's now viewed as a top NFL prospect.
And that's them being unrealistic. And of course Levis is protecting his draft status
He is such a blowhard. Absurd proclamation after absurd proclamation. What a blithering moron.
"Stay and compete" is a ridiculous argument when the need is an opportunity for DEVELOPMENT. Coach makes a pick and then all the chips get played on one man. The sleepers NEVER get a chance with that approach.
Quarterback is one of those positions where there is no substitute for experience. When Will "competed" he was used as a running back.
Think about it like this. You choose a major and then a good school for that major. After you arrive the school cancels the major. Would you argue that the student should have allegiance to the school, hoping they will change their mind, or should the student move on to a school that provides the major?
Then why are we upset that Roberson sucked? You can't make the claim you just made and get mad when the starter gets hurt and the backup stinks because you already think the backup isn't going to develop without playing time.
I tend to believe Coen, last year's UK OC, did some good work with Levis. I also believe that the difference in Allar at the BW game to his snaps through 4 games is Yurcich.
Levis left. People can scream Franklin and Clifford, but that doesn't mean it's guaranteed. Additionally, Clifford got hurt. That happens to starting QBs, see Levis this week. If the Levis who played for UK steps into the Iowa game, I'm fairly sure we win that one and Levis probably doesn't relinquish the starting role.
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Levis has a strong arm and good mobility, but their offensive scheme does little to take advantage of either. I know their OL is poor at pass blocking, but they do have a running game, and Levis is capable of more than standing like a tree in the pocket waiting to get hit.
Coaches saw Levis for 3 years in practice as well as some limited game exposure. Yurich had enough tape to decide if he wanted to "beg" him to stay......no one did. CJF would have loved to make a summer camp decision.....and of course have both Cliff and Will in the fold. Will saw a clear path to start in Kentucky. I'm happy for him....but pretty tired of the fanboys who make ridiculous statements like he never had a chance. There was never one moment that Will seemed better than Sean......until he went to Kentucky.
Why is it always the player we don't have.....the player who is on the bench or the coach from another school?
Because that's how moron's think.
PS......and I know you know the lazydave841.... none of this is directed at you......but for the crybabies.....Roberson only played because CV couldn't keep his nose clean. I applaud CJF.
Before you criticize the coaches....try to think. Rahne, Ciarrocca, nor Yurich saw Levis as better than Clifford.
But.....but.....but he never had a chance.....bullspit
He left because he was afraid he wouldn't beat Cliff out. Great decision for him. I'm happy for him.
Are you saying you were on the staff during Levis tenure and first hand witnessed an unfair competition? If not, you have ZERO ability to say "nO oPeN cOmPeTiTiOn" with any relevance.
Further, which coaching staff recruited a 5* HS QB between the 2? UK or PSU? Do you think Allar came here because there aren't open competitions?
I'm not mad that Levis left. We went with Clifford and I don't have a problem with that but anyone claiming he left because he didn't think he could win the job is delusional.
Is Allar starting? I think Allar came there thinking Clifford may not be back for year 6 and expecting to start the next 2-3 years. He probably isn't thrilled Clifford came back but that's a risk for everyone top recruit due to the portal.
Levis left for an opportunity that was essentially 99% guaranteed for him to start. As long as he didn't break something, it was his job.
Whether he felt the competition was fair, or whether he felt he could or couldn't beat Clifford is merely assumptions by any of us because nobody involved has spoken about it.
Sean Clifford Returning to Penn State for a Sixth Year
Sean Clifford, Penn State's three-year starting quarterback and captain, will return to play for the Nittany Lions in 2022.
Clifford announced December 10th he was returning.
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Early NSD was December 15th. Allar knew before he assigned and even enrolled in January.
Allar might expect to start next year, but he didn't come here expecting to start from day 1. Are you merely misinformed or just pushing a negative agenda for the sake of?
He knew 5 days prior--you aren't changing your mind at the point of the processLevis left for an opportunity that was essentially 99% guaranteed for him to start. As long as he didn't break something, it was his job.
Whether he felt the competition was fair, or whether he felt he could or couldn't beat Clifford is merely assumptions by any of us because nobody involved has spoken about it.
Sean Clifford Returning to Penn State for a Sixth Year
Sean Clifford, Penn State's three-year starting quarterback and captain, will return to play for the Nittany Lions in 2022.www.si.com
Clifford announced December 10th he was returning.
National Signing Day: Everything You Need to Know (2024)
National Signing Day marks the end of a long recruiting journey. Learn about the process, what it means for student-athletes, key signing dates, and rules.
Early NSD was December 15th. Allar knew before he assigned and even enrolled in January.
Allar might expect to start next year, but he didn't come here expecting to start from day 1. Are you merely misinformed or just pushing a negative agenda for the sake of?
Allar is 100% expecting to start next year and if he isn't he won't be here
There's no "negative agenda''. I don't believe any team really has an open competition. See Michigan this year. Let's not pretend Harbaugh didn't know what he was doing. Coaches know who they want to be the guy--that's not an insult on Franklin. He wanted to go with experience. He's going to do that 99 times out of 100. Even Saban and Smart have shown they'll start with the guy who has experience and only make a change if they deem it's necessary.
I truly don't know what you think is negative here. It worked out well for all involved.
Levis left for an opportunity that was essentially 99% guaranteed for him to start. As long as he didn't break something, it was his job.
Whether he felt the competition was fair, or whether he felt he could or couldn't beat Clifford is merely assumptions by any of us because nobody involved has spoken about it.
Sean Clifford Returning to Penn State for a Sixth Year
Sean Clifford, Penn State's three-year starting quarterback and captain, will return to play for the Nittany Lions in 2022.
Clifford announced December 10th he was returning.
National Signing Day: Everything You Need to Know (2024)
National Signing Day marks the end of a long recruiting journey. Learn about the process, what it means for student-athletes, key signing dates, and rules.
Early NSD was December 15th. Allar knew before he assigned and even enrolled in January.
Allar might expect to start next year, but he didn't come here expecting to start from day 1. Are you merely misinformed or just pushing a negative agenda for the sake of?
You're trying to talk facts and reality with Mr. Always-Wrong... that's your mistake. His whole schtick about him knowing what Allar was thinking is not only 100% antifactual and bullshit, but quite nauseating....and unfortunately fairly typical for this lame troll.
The level of obsession you have with me being the only person on this board that never admits when he's wrong is adorable. You need a hug.
Publicly 5 days. Do you think he was lied to? Do you think he was told Clifford was not returning under any circumstance? Do you think Allar and his family would have been concerned about the cost of the college application? Didn't Caleb Williams show up at USC in February?
And players have used the portal before the ink dried on NSD papers. If this was an actual issue, he could have changed course rather easily at any point prior to the windows that have been put in place.
Outside looking in, the articles out there, Yurcich got on Allar early. His ascent from 3* to 5* didn't cause him to look around and playing for the in state school didn't bite us a la Justin Fields.
Of course not. No one practices. The coaches don't evaluate. They all play poker in the coaching meetings. They flip a coin sometimes......The coaches play favorites, I understand. That's how you get to be a division one coach. Unlike an omnipotent and omniscient football genius like you......who is a born football savant and knows better than anyone.
Competition....why would anyone ever have a competition. I mean it's college football.....that's never based on competition .....
and coaches just don't want to win like you do....a born winner.
