Wisconsin RTC posted "Underground 2” Wed Dec 16

[JTNPSU84]

Rokfin - Wisconsin Dec 16

Thomas Gilman vs. Seth Gross headlines the event, which will feature 3 youth Freestyle matches, with the main card having 13 matches. There are 4 Women's Freestyle matches on this card as well!

 

[amattaro]

Bump for OUR VERY OWN Thomas Gilman.

 

[CropDuster507]

It brings me much joy that the same dude who once ran all the way over to the U of M huddle during introductions and got pushed away dons the NLWC logo.

 

[El-Jefe]

It brings me much joy that the same dude who once ran all the way over to the U of M huddle during introductions and got pushed away dons the NLWC logo.

Even better: he did it twice.

 

[WreslingFan0314]

Does the $9.99 monthly subscription (done thru the NLWC) get access to this event or is that additional?

 

[nerfstate]

Does the $9.99 monthly subscription (done thru the NLWC) get access to this event or is that additional?

yes, nothing additional. that’s the rokfin way.

 

[NittanyChris]

Cheering for Seth Gross over here. Haven't changed my view of Gilman even though he's with the good guys.

 

[NoVa Lion]

yes, nothing additional. that’s the rokfin way.

I know that is how it is supposed to work, but I just logged into Rokfin and don't see this event anywhere. Anyone know how to access it? Thanks in advance.

 

[west2east]

I know that is how it is supposed to work, but I just logged into Rokfin and don't see this event anywhere. Anyone know how to access it? Thanks in advance.

It will show up on Wisconsin RTC page on Rokfin prior to the event at 730pm ET

 

[jtothemfp]

I know that is how it is supposed to work, but I just logged into Rokfin and don't see this event anywhere. Anyone know how to access it? Thanks in advance.

Hey, what's up, nova! I went to the WiscyRTC channel, at https://www.rokfin.com/WiscRTC, but I also don't see anything yet. But I suspect this is where they will post tonight's live stream.

That's also the link their twitter is using:

 

[amattaro]

Cheering for Seth Gross over here. Haven't changed my view of Gilman even though he's with the good guys.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Hey, what's up, nova! I went to the WiscyRTC channel, at https://www.rokfin.com/WiscRTC, but I also don't see anything yet. But I suspect this is where they will post tonight's live stream.

That's also the link their twitter is using:

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Thanks jto and west2east, hope your are right as I really want to see this match.

Jto, hope all is well in NoVa as I am now retired and living in State College and really wanting this pandemic to end so I can attend wrestling, volleyball, football, etc. which was the whole point in retiring and moving.

 

[NittanyChris]

LOVE Curb! Still think Gilman’s a jerk.

 

[NoVa Lion]

It will show up on Wisconsin RTC page on Rokfin prior to the event at 730pm ET

7:34 and I don't see it on Rokfin.

 

[nerfstate]

7:34 and I don't see it on Rokfin.

Starts 7pm Central.

 

[nerfstate]

https://rokfin.com/stream/2867

 

[nerfstate]

LOVE Curb! Still think Gilman’s a jerk.

 

[Sportfan2017]

I will post a few updates. I am sure you will recognize more of these names than I. Oh.....Willie Saylor is in the house!

Graham Calhoun 12 vs Tanner Mendoza 10
Dresden Simon 12 vs ? Medora 1
Kaitlin Gunderson 15 vs ? Roehi 4 Ladies 131lb.
Joey Bianchi 12 vs Joe Zargo 4 150 lbs.
Kobe Woods loses by fall vs Chris Weiler 205 lbs.
Paul Bianchi 10 vs Kyle Burwick 6 135lbs
Drew Hildebrandt 10 vs Eric Barnett 4 130 lbs. Good Match
Kylie Welker TF 10-0 vs Amar Tuttle 145 lbs Kylie called out Macie Kilty for Jan.
Ronna Heaton 10 vs Coral (?) Sugiyama 7 132 lbs Heaton avoids the upset....down 5-1 Good one
Kennedy Monday vs Evan Wick at 173 lbs. Monday gets 2 + 2 +1. 5-0. Wick gets 2+2 Period ends Monday up 5-4
2nd.....Wick with TD....another Td and keeps turning Wick wins 16-5 Confirms he is taking an Olympic Redshirt this year and Calls out McFadden for Jan.
Erin Golston 7 vs Maria Vidales 1 114 lbs. Vidales was gritty
Thomas Gilman vs Seth Gross 132 lbs....
Gilman gets left leg up....settles for PO 1-0
Gilman gets left leg.....PO....called grounded 1-0
Gilman head slaps Gross.....Caution and 1 offered....White paddled 1-0
Gilman Head pinch stalemate 1-0
Gilman gets left leg ..Push out...1 offered...white paddled....still 1-0
Gilman gets left leg up time runs out 1-0 after pd. 1
Gilman gets to left leg gets it up......goes for pushout 2-0
Gilman gets left leg....gets extended....Gross comes around.....2-2
Stop me if I said this...Gilman gets left leg....gets extended.....Gross gets 2 for exposure. Close but..I would toss the brick Gross up 4-2
Gilman gets left leg up...easy pushout 4-3 Gross
Gilman gets left leg up...easy pushout 4-4 Gross with Criteria
Gilman gets left leg up push out.....1 offered.....white paddled....said Gross got down before pushout 4-4
Gilman shoots a double....time runs out Gross wins 4-4
Texas appeals to Supreme court on Gilman's behalf.......

Wisconsin RTC started a "Tip the Channel" asking for tips.....100% of which goes to the Outstanding Male and Female Wrestlers. Cool Idea.....currently at 656.00. Won't make you rich but definitely an incentive for wrestlers to want to participate. I imagine that the NLWC would raise far more than that at the cards they have put up.

 

[Str8DBLz]

This announcer makes me want turn off the sound

 

[Str8DBLz]

Kennedy Monday is looking good. Was out to an early 4-0 lead

 

[nerfstate]

Kennedy Monday is looking good. Was out to an early 4-0 lead

Early lead, early gas. Wick wins 16-5

 

[nerfstate]

 

[SRATH]

Gross, terrible win. Did nothing.

 

[Str8DBLz]

I'm pretty sure that gilman was paid to lose!

 

[nerfstate]

Gilman lived on his legs, but couldn’t figure out Gross’s leg whizzer. Losses 4-4 on criterea (all of gilman’s pts were ones).

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

One of the most poorly reffed matches I have ever seen

 

[rmg78]

I thought Gilman should have had at least 2 more points for push outs, possibly 3. Also thought the one exposure Gross got was iffy at best.

 

[tikk10]

Gross wins 4-4 on criteria, a go-behind and a (questionable) defensive exposure vs four step-outs. Gilman repeatedly in on Gross's legs but Gross rubber-knees out of everything. Pretty questionable officiating in my opinion, ref stopped the action early a bunch of times and denied two step-out points by Gilman that were right on the edge.

 

[82bordeaux]

I think that is a match where Gilman walks away feeling like a winner. No way he loses that match in a legit setting.

 

[Fink]

Felt like the old Russian ref job.

 

[nerfstate]

The announcer calling it an instant classic was even more laughable.

 

[a_mshaffer]

I think that is a match where Gilman walks away feeling like a winner. No way he loses that match in a legit setting.

agreed. Gilman came away with a lot more intel for the next match...

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

None of the three push outs were grounded and the exposure wasn’t an exposure. Add to that an early whistle on some of those stalemates and uffff, sure has the feel of an inside job.

 

[amattaro]

Tough loss for IOWAs Thomas Gilman.

 

[seeyajohn]

On a recent FRL CP and Funky talked about the absurdity of the "grounded" rule in freestyle. This match showed that absurdity.

 

[js8793]

Tough loss for IOWAs Thomas Gilman.

Gilman really regressing in the Penn State room. Such a shame.

 

[nerfstate]

Yeah I dunno, if it's a caution and 1 to let yourself go out too easily, it should be a caution and 1 to jump down to one knee as you're going out of bounds too, right? Just makes sense to me.

 

[tikk10]

Yeah I dunno, if it's a caution and 1 to let yourself go out too easily, it should be a caution and 1 to jump down to one knee as you're going out of bounds too, right? Just makes sense to me.

Right. The rule makes sense where the defensive wrestler has no foot leverage to stop from being bulldozed--no one wants to see those sequences become points. But where the defensive wrestler is going out and drops down near the edge, the purpose of the rule isn't implicated because he's forfeiting his leverage for the sole purpose of saving a point.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Right. The rule makes sense where the defensive wrestler has no foot leverage to stop from being bulldozed--no one wants to see those sequences become points. But where the defensive wrestler is going out and drops down near the edge, the purpose of the rule isn't implicated because he's forfeiting his leverage for the sole purpose of saving a point.

You almost never see a grounded call from the single leg position they were in. It’s almost always reserved for straight pushes or sprawl situations

 

[AndEEss]

Gilman wins that match 6-4 or 6-2 most other nights. Some perplexing calls, or non-calls, there. In a UWW match, Gross would have been cautioned out.

Should have been on the shot clock multiple times, too. Head fakes and level changes are not offense.

Also, different match at 57kg vs 132lbs