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Wisconsin RTC posted "Underground 2” Wed Dec 16

Gilman wins that match 6-4 or 6-2 most other nights. Some perplexing calls, or non-calls, there. In a UWW match, Gross would have been cautioned out.

Should have been on the shot clock multiple times, too. Head fakes and level changes are not offense.

Also, different match at 57kg vs 132lbs
Definitely cautioned out, he did NOTHING
 
Yeah, that was officiated pretty ****ing awfully for the home crowd lol. Some ridiculous white paddles. On top of that, it was shown in the opening couple of minutes when they tried to caution Thomas for handfighting a guy who was constantly backing up in an upright stance to bait a leg attack for 6min.
 
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Gilman wins that match 6-4 or 6-2 most other nights. Some perplexing calls, or non-calls, there. In a UWW match, Gross would have been cautioned out.

Should have been on the shot clock multiple times, too. Head fakes and level changes are not offense.

Also, different match at 57kg vs 132lbs
The thing about Gross not being on the clock is that the entire match was all action. It's not like folkstyle where you can call a guy for stalling while his opponent shoots. He was on the legs the entire time. There weren't many opportunities to put Gross on the clock because the entire match was all action. Should they have stopped the match while Gilman was on a leg and put him on the clock?

Another thing to keep in mind, is that number of attacks is not as important in freestyle for passivity. It's not the same as folkstyle stalling.
 
Yeah--I'm not sure passivity is where the officiating veered off yesterday. Mostly, it was the grounding interpretation, and while I can't get a great angle on the exposure, it doesn't look close to 90 to me.

 
Yeah--I'm not sure passivity is where the officiating veered off yesterday. Mostly, it was the grounding interpretation, and while I can't get a great angle on the exposure, it doesn't look close to 90 to me.

That belly whizzer/hip tip/okie tip always looks like that. Routinely NOT called, though I it probably should be. I think they got this one correct, oddly enough. You can stay square with Gross in the belly whizzer.
 
That belly whizzer/hip tip/okie tip always looks like that. Routinely NOT called, though I it probably should be. I think they got this one correct, oddly enough. You can stay square with Gross in the belly whizzer.
Just watched again--it's closer than i remember it, for sure.
 
Objectively, you have no issue with the way the match was officiated? Regardless of the two competitors? I'm genuinely curious.
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The only reason Karl brought in Gilman was to strengthen the low weight....and it is NOT WORKING! Cropduster, get your nose out of Karl's jockstrap.
 
Maybe he meant Karl Malone.
I know the hardest hitting Karl ever, Joseph, has to wear a jock lol. In all seriousness there may not be a pound for pound harder hitter in these overly sanitized NFL. It's god awful watching damn near any team try to tackle anymore in he NFL. Horrible.

The mailman was awesome tho. Stockton as well.
 
Nope, one above your post, basically calling Willie a name based on appearance. Not cool!
People on forums are diehard fans who think they know more.Facts are very few people have the knowledge and insight as Willie does and that causes some people to hate him.The funny thing is the people that hate him can't stay away from viewing his content.
 
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