WTH. Shoop paying own buyout. Link
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No doubt that buyout will be paid back by a booster.
If I had to bet I'd say he desperately wanted out. What the heck is happening with our staff and players and alumni all in some way directly or indirectly taking shots at Coach Franklin?
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An insufferable lot with ridiculous expectations. If we go down, we did it to ourselves.
Tennessee saying Shoop would handle the buyout doesn't mean they didn't give him the phone number of some boosters who might help him out. If he wanted out so desperately he would not turn down 1.5 million from Auburn. He wanted to go to Tennessee more than get out of PSU.
Have to call BS on this...if the Boondockers think Shoop is the key to the promised land, no way he has to pay an $800k buyout...no way.
They all dreaded the thought of coaching another season against Urban. Better to just pay up and move on. 
Yeah, Shoop had it so bad he wanted his own son to play for Franklin, was making a million per and has turned down 2 other SEC DC jobs (one paying him significantly more) in the past year. Sure sounds like he was miserable.
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They all dreaded the thought of coaching another season against Urban. Better to just pay up and move on.
He gave up a higher pay job at Auburn with base salary. As noted, sure a booster(s) is picking up the buyout tab in some fashion or that would be a significant pay cut which makes no sense. General speculation is (1) his family wants to go back to Tennessee and (2) he knows the PSU defense is going to take a step back next year with graduation (Lucas, Williams, Nassib, AJ, and Zettle) is a lot of lost talent. And that Tennessee is a team that is on the rise and that he can go there, have another good defense on a Top 20 type team and try to parlay that into a head coaching job. Or (3) something happened between Shoop and JFF that made SHoop want to leave, not sure we will ever know if #3 actually happened.
They all dreaded the thought of coaching another season against Urban. Better to just pay up and move on.
State College isn't for everyone. There isn't a ton of infrastructure and amenities for families.
It also appears in my opinion that there is some disharmony among the staff. Like any job not everybody will be happy with their boss. You can either b1tch and moan and be miserable or move on.
Hate seeing people leave for lateral position b/c it doesn't reflect well but that is what life is like in all professions.
It also appears in my opinion that there is some disharmony among the staff. Like any job not everybody will be happy with their boss. You can either b1tch and moan and be miserable or move on.
Hate seeing people leave for lateral position b/c it doesn't reflect well but that is what life is like in all professions.
Just my opinion, but I think these departures by the coaches and the players may ultimately be a good thing. With respect to Shoop, I think wants to be a head coach again and thinks (probably correctly) that he can pad his resume by coaching @ Tennessee, because of the reputation of the SEC, and because on paper they appear to be more ready for success than PSU. With Hand, I think he left because of his friendship with Malzahn (and perhaps in some small measure because of the constant criticism he received from many PSU "experts").
It seems clear to me that many of the upperclassmen never "bought in" to the program Franklin wants to bring to PSU. A prime example, is Donovan Smith who was critical on twitter after the Temple game and again when Shoop left, "complementing" him on his "better job". By contrast, one of the younger players, Jason Cabinda, immediately ripped Smith on twitter by stating he had "zero pride". I don't think it is unusual for upperclassmen to not buy in to a new coach and this may be especially true given the number of coaches these upperclassmen have had and the other issues they have had to deal with during their careers. I am sure some of this also results from the fact that if it is a close call, Franklin has preferred to play the players he recruited, which again isn't unusual with coaching changes.
I am encouraged by the comments of several of our verbals who have reaffirmed their commitment to PSU and what Franklin is trying to build. Accuse me of wearing blue and white glasses if you will, but I really look forward to seeing what this team looks like in Franklin's fourth year. Too bad he can't seem to get a number of the fans to buy in.
maybe you used the wrong pronoun in your statement. Family may have driven this decision. Many people have come and gone from State College because their husband or wife were not happy. Family should come first. This decision may have had nothing to do with football and everything to do with family.
I'm sure there are those who have not yet experienced Shoop's version of the truth that will really believe he's coughing up 800K. State College can be a very lonely place if you're not one of the insiders. Maybe he and his family never felt like they fit in.. and maybe they did not.
Re-read the article, it merely says that Tennessee isn't responsible for paying the buyout, no where in it does it say Shoop is personally paying the buyout, nothing new here. Bosters will surely be paying the buyout, not Shoop. The headline is misleading.
Are the Browns on our schedule next year?They all dreaded the thought of coaching another season against Urban. Better to just pay up and move on.
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Isn't there a Buckeye board somewhere you would enjoy more than trolling here?
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Shoop's kids really liked PSU, State College area. My daughter is a freshman at PSU from Nashville....there are about 10 other kids that fit this description and Tyler Shoop was one. My daughter knew tyler, but was very good friends with some of Tyler's friends at his High School Father Ryan in Nashville. Not sure if the wife was happy, could have been an issue, but from conversations with my daughter the kids did not want to move and really enjoyed PSU.
It seems to come down to Tenn being expected to compete at the national level ie....top 10 for the next couple of years and Bob turning this success into an opportunity to coach at a Duke, Virginia, Vandy, Cincinnati, or Pitt small level programs.......I kid. If Bob has success, take a top 20 - top 50 level team have some success and then move on to a Texas, Texas A&M, PSU, Auburn, Florida type program as a Head Coach with a $4 Million salary. That is the why he left.
It seems to come down to Tenn being expected to compete at the national level ie....top 10 for the next couple of years and Bob turning this success into an opportunity to coach at a Duke, Virginia, Vandy, Cincinnati, or Pitt small level programs.......I kid. If Bob has success, take a top 20 - top 50 level team have some success and then move on to a Texas, Texas A&M, PSU, Auburn, Florida type program as a Head Coach with a $4 Million salary. That is the why he left.
I think people are missing the key buzzword here....wanted to keep the "University of Tennessee" out of it.... That does not mean that private parties who wish to see him in Knoxville are not entitled to resolve the issue for him (not different that private parties making O'Brien's and Franklin's large salaries possible....).
Much ado about nothing. I will start worrying when all of our recruits start jumping ship.
Guys, I can say with 99% certainty that shoop is not paying the buyout . Some UT folks were bragging about a certain booster paying it off.
