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2018 Recruiting Thread

4* OL Walker
4* LB Lamb
4* WR Dotson
4* WR George
4* DB Young
4* DE Oweh
4* DT Mustipher
?* QB TBD

Oweh could wind up at OSU. In that case another DT or RB.

8 more = 21 which means 6 will leave early. I know many will say we take 25.

"many" = Coach James Franklin.....
 
Because Penn State players go to class and graduate, they should be ready for life after football.

Franklin and company stress the academic side. Did you ever see the video where he drops in on a class unexpectedly to make 2 players that are sitting in the back row move to the front row where they are supposed to be per team rules?

As one player at OSU said, they didn't go there to play school, so I guess that's why Urban has to half ass prepare them for after football.

So let's see now. You are a football parent. Are you going to be more impressed with the coach insisting that players sit in the front row in class or the coach that gets his kids internships at Goldman Sachs? Urban has it right. It is not just about graduation rates. It is also about preparing the overwhelming majority that will not play NFL football for careers after college.

BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.
 
So let's see now. You are a football parent. Are you going to be more impressed with the coach insisting that players sit in the front row in class or the coach that gets his kids internships at Goldman Sachs? Urban has it right. It is not just about graduation rates. It is also about preparing the overwhelming majority that will not play NFL football for careers after college.

BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.
Your first paragraph was pure stupid.
 
So let's see now. You are a football parent. Are you going to be more impressed with the coach insisting that players sit in the front row in class or the coach that gets his kids internships at Goldman Sachs? Urban has it right. It is not just about graduation rates. It is also about preparing the overwhelming majority that will not play NFL football for careers after college.

BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.
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You've found it.


Congratulations!!!!

You've found the secret formula for displaying your idiocy!!!


Just post your "thoughts"....... and, viola!!!!!
Viola? Funny typo.:)

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BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.
The "most recent APR" includes the last 4 years which are hampered by the sanctions. Figures lie and liars figure, but you won't read the facts. Whatever.

http://news.psu.edu/story/406076/20...ts-highest-yearly-ncaa-academic-progress-rate
  • During the 2015 fall semester, a program record 56 squad members earned at least a 3.0 grade-point average. This marked the fifth consecutive semester (including summer sessions) that the Nittany Lions had more than 50 student-athletes with a 3.0 GPA or better. The 56 Nittany Lions with a 3.0 GPA or higher surpassed the mark of 55 set by the 2008 fall semester for the most 3.0 students in a semester in football program history.
  • A total of 23 Nittany Lions posted a 3.5 GPA or higher in the fall semester, with 19 earning Dean's List recognition for having 3.5 GPA or higher with 12 credits earned in undergraduate work.
  • The Nittany Lion freshmen were impressive in the fall semester, with 14 posting a 3.0 or higher.
  • Overall, 51 football student-athletes owned a 3.0 cumulative GPA or higher after the fall semester, with 21 owning a 3.5 cumulative GPA or higher.
  • The fall semester also saw 45 student-athletes improve their cumulative GPA since the 2015 spring semester. There were 43 Nittany Lions that earned all A's and B's during the fall semester and 23 Nittany Lions earned Academic All-Big Ten recognition last fall.
  • A Big Ten Conference-high 17 members of the Penn State football team had earned their degrees prior to the Nittany Lions' appearance in the TaxSlayer Bowl to rank tied for 11th among all Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) institutions.
  • Penn State's all-time total of 64 CoSIDA Academic All-America® football honorees ranks second among all FBS institutions. Junior Tyler Yazujian earned a 4.0 GPA last fall and was a second-team Academic All-America selection.
  • A total of 371 of Penn State football student-athletes, including 23 in 2015, have earned Academic All-Big Ten honors since 1993 for owning at least a 3.0 grade point average and being a letterwinner.
 
So let's see now. You are a football parent. Are you going to be more impressed with the coach insisting that players sit in the front row in class or the coach that gets his kids internships at Goldman Sachs? Urban has it right. It is not just about graduation rates. It is also about preparing the overwhelming majority that will not play NFL football for careers after college.

BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.

How many scholarship football players from Ohio State have secured Goldman Sachs internships since Urban Meyer became the head coach?
 
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So let's see now. You are a football parent. Are you going to be more impressed with the coach insisting that players sit in the front row in class or the coach that gets his kids internships at Goldman Sachs? Urban has it right. It is not just about graduation rates. It is also about preparing the overwhelming majority that will not play NFL football for careers after college.

BTW: For all of the crowing by PSU fans about football and academics PSU was dead last in the B10 in the most recent APR ratings.

Here's an article about the 42 most successful former football players on Wall Street. I see 3 Penn Staters on the list. Lots of Ivy Leagers of course, as well as Stanford, Duke, Vanderbilt, and Notre Dame mentions.

Where are the Ohio State players? Am I missing them?


http://www.pjstar.com/article/20131017/news/310179964
 
How many scholarship football players from Ohio State have secured Goldman Sachs internships since Urban Meyer became the head coach?

At least 3 in the past year and more at companies like Nike and JP Morgan.
Check out the video on TOS
 
The "most recent APR" includes the last 4 years which are hampered by the sanctions. Figures lie and liars figure, but you won't read the facts. Whatever.

http://news.psu.edu/story/406076/20...ts-highest-yearly-ncaa-academic-progress-rate
  • During the 2015 fall semester, a program record 56 squad members earned at least a 3.0 grade-point average. This marked the fifth consecutive semester (including summer sessions) that the Nittany Lions had more than 50 student-athletes with a 3.0 GPA or better. The 56 Nittany Lions with a 3.0 GPA or higher surpassed the mark of 55 set by the 2008 fall semester for the most 3.0 students in a semester in football program history.
  • A total of 23 Nittany Lions posted a 3.5 GPA or higher in the fall semester, with 19 earning Dean's List recognition for having 3.5 GPA or higher with 12 credits earned in undergraduate work.
  • The Nittany Lion freshmen were impressive in the fall semester, with 14 posting a 3.0 or higher.
  • Overall, 51 football student-athletes owned a 3.0 cumulative GPA or higher after the fall semester, with 21 owning a 3.5 cumulative GPA or higher.
  • The fall semester also saw 45 student-athletes improve their cumulative GPA since the 2015 spring semester. There were 43 Nittany Lions that earned all A's and B's during the fall semester and 23 Nittany Lions earned Academic All-Big Ten recognition last fall.
  • A Big Ten Conference-high 17 members of the Penn State football team had earned their degrees prior to the Nittany Lions' appearance in the TaxSlayer Bowl to rank tied for 11th among all Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) institutions.
  • Penn State's all-time total of 64 CoSIDA Academic All-America® football honorees ranks second among all FBS institutions. Junior Tyler Yazujian earned a 4.0 GPA last fall and was a second-team Academic All-America selection.
  • A total of 371 of Penn State football student-athletes, including 23 in 2015, have earned Academic All-Big Ten honors since 1993 for owning at least a 3.0 grade point average and being a letterwinner.

Actually, it's one year (2015-16). NCAA metrics track only those recruited on scholarship; those you cited above include everyone on the squad (see Tyler Yazujian). And BTW., the article you cited is a year old.

I'm going to guess that an early departure, transfers and a relatively small scholarship roster contributed to the score (it doesn't take much to jigger it either way). Perhaps, PSU's AD of the Year has a better explanation......or maybe the AAD In-Charge of Explanations does.
 
At least 3 in the past year and more at companies like Nike and JP Morgan.
Check out the video on TOS

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant real internships that might actually lead to a job after graduation.

I doubt Urban would let any remotely important player leave campus for 10 weeks in the summer to sit behind a desk in NYC 50 hours per week.
 
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Actually, it's one year (2015-16). NCAA metrics track only those recruited on scholarship; those you cited above include everyone on the squad (see Tyler Yazujian). And BTW., the article you cited is a year old.

I'm going to guess that an early departure, transfers and a relatively small scholarship roster contributed to the score (it doesn't take much to jigger it either way). Perhaps, PSU's AD of the Year has a better explanation......or maybe the AAD In-Charge of Explanations does.
I'm aware it was from 2015-16. You are correct with the 2016-17. It has nothing to do with GPA but more to do with players on scholarship who are academically eligible.

Taken from the NCAA, the APR is calculated as follows:

  • Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
  • A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.
  • In addition to a team’s current-year APR, its rolling four-year APR is also used to determine accountability.
http://collegefootballnews.com/2017...ress-rate-football-apr-rankings-by-conference
 
At least 3 in the past year and more at companies like Nike and JP Morgan.
Check out the video on TOS


There is the Goldman Sachs we all know and love.........and then there is third-party distribution in Chicago. It is Goldman Sachs, but its also meh.
 
I'm aware it was from 2015-16. You are correct with the 2016-17. It has nothing to do with GPA but more to do with players on scholarship who are academically eligible.

Taken from the NCAA, the APR is calculated as follows:

  • Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
  • A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.
  • In addition to a team’s current-year APR, its rolling four-year APR is also used to determine accountability.
http://collegefootballnews.com/2017...ress-rate-football-apr-rankings-by-conference


Yes, there are two numbers, one for the most recent academic year and a four year average. For the most recent year academic year, 2016-17, PSU, was, indeed, next to last in the Big Ten.

I tend not to pay attention to NCAA academic metrics because they are largely horseshit. They are easy to manipulate; all it takes is a friendly dean to sign off on "exceptions." Their primary purpose is to allow the plantation masters (read university presidents) to avoid embarrassment. But PSU plays along. I do hope there is a reasonable explanation or only a momentary loss of focus by the Athletic Director of the Year.
 
Actually, it's one year (2015-16). NCAA metrics track only those recruited on scholarship; those you cited above include everyone on the squad (see Tyler Yazujian). And BTW., the article you cited is a year old.

I'm going to guess that an early departure, transfers and a relatively small scholarship roster contributed to the score (it doesn't take much to jigger it either way). Perhaps, PSU's AD of the Year has a better explanation......or maybe the AAD In-Charge of Explanations does.

Since you're attempting to take a swipe at PSU's AD of the Year, let me spit a little knowledge your way... The APR is a average of 4 years--that makes up the 2015-2016 score of 969. But let's take a look at the previous years shall we?

2014-2015 = 960
2013-2014 = 956
2012-2013 = 954

So where's the trajectory going up or down??? Yes, the sanction years are playing a big part of the score since the previous 3 years make up the 4 year average every year.

The more you know...
 
The "most recent APR" includes the last 4 years which are hampered by the sanctions. Figures lie and liars figure, but you won't read the facts. Whatever.

http://news.psu.edu/story/406076/20...ts-highest-yearly-ncaa-academic-progress-rate
  • During the 2015 fall semester, a program record 56 squad members earned at least a 3.0 grade-point average. This marked the fifth consecutive semester (including summer sessions) that the Nittany Lions had more than 50 student-athletes with a 3.0 GPA or better. The 56 Nittany Lions with a 3.0 GPA or higher surpassed the mark of 55 set by the 2008 fall semester for the most 3.0 students in a semester in football program history.
  • A total of 23 Nittany Lions posted a 3.5 GPA or higher in the fall semester, with 19 earning Dean's List recognition for having 3.5 GPA or higher with 12 credits earned in undergraduate work.
  • The Nittany Lion freshmen were impressive in the fall semester, with 14 posting a 3.0 or higher.
  • Overall, 51 football student-athletes owned a 3.0 cumulative GPA or higher after the fall semester, with 21 owning a 3.5 cumulative GPA or higher.
  • The fall semester also saw 45 student-athletes improve their cumulative GPA since the 2015 spring semester. There were 43 Nittany Lions that earned all A's and B's during the fall semester and 23 Nittany Lions earned Academic All-Big Ten recognition last fall.
  • A Big Ten Conference-high 17 members of the Penn State football team had earned their degrees prior to the Nittany Lions' appearance in the TaxSlayer Bowl to rank tied for 11th among all Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) institutions.
  • Penn State's all-time total of 64 CoSIDA Academic All-America® football honorees ranks second among all FBS institutions. Junior Tyler Yazujian earned a 4.0 GPA last fall and was a second-team Academic All-America selection.
  • A total of 371 of Penn State football student-athletes, including 23 in 2015, have earned Academic All-Big Ten honors since 1993 for owning at least a 3.0 grade point average and being a letterwinner.
Woulda' been easier to just point out that the NCAA's created "APR" nonsense is about as useful as used toilet paper........ or a UNC African American Studies independent study class.

Rather than recite similarly meaningless propaganda from the PSU SID Jabberwock.


Anyone with a 1/2 functioning lobe is aware of the relative "academic emphasis" of PSU Football vs OSU Football........
Anyone who doesn't? Not worth "discussing" the topic with.
 
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Here's an article about the 42 most successful former football players on Wall Street. I see 3 Penn Staters on the list. Lots of Ivy Leagers of course, as well as Stanford, Duke, Vanderbilt, and Notre Dame mentions.

Where are the Ohio State players? Am I missing them?


http://www.pjstar.com/article/20131017/news/310179964

Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.
 
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Since you're attempting to take a swipe at PSU's AD of the Year, let me spit a little knowledge your way... The APR is a average of 4 years--that makes up the 2015-2016 score of 969. But let's take a look at the previous years shall we?

2014-2015 = 960
2013-2014 = 956
2012-2013 = 954

So where's the trajectory going up or down??? Yes, the sanction years are playing a big part of the score since the previous 3 years make up the 4 year average every year.

The more you know...

No attempt, scholar. From the article cited and linked by PearlSUJam above:

"During the 2014-15 academic year, the NCAA reported the Nittany Lions earned an APR score of 993 out of 1,000, a record yearly high for the program."

That information is a year old. For the 2015-16 academic year, the APR was 972. So why don't tell me the direction of the "trajectory?"

Ignorance is bliss, ain't it.
 
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Woulda' been easier to just point out that the NCAA's created "APR" nonsense is about as useful as used toilet paper........ or a UNC African American Studies independent study class.

Rather than recite similarly meaningless propaganda from the PSU SID Jabberwock.


Anyone with a 1/2 functioning lobe is aware of the relative "academic emphasis" of PSU Football vs OSU Football........
Anyone who doesn't? Not worth "discussing" the topic with.
Very true.
 
***Recruit***_______________________________________***School***
1. DE - Micah Parson........................................................(_____________)
2. SAF - Isheem Young.....................................................(_____________)
3. WR - Jahan Dotson.......................................................(_____________)
4. DT - PJ Mustipher.........................................................(_____________)
5. DE - Tyreke Smith.........................................................(_____________)
6. LB - Jack Lamb..............................................................(_____________)
7. SAF - Kwantel Raines....................................................(_____________)
8. WR - Solomon Enis........................................................(_____________)
9. DT - Aeneas Hawkins.....................................................(_____________)
10. WR - Daniel George.....................................................(_____________)
11. OT - Rasheed Walker...................................................(_____________)
12. OG - Fred Scruggs.......................................................(_____________)
13. DE - Dorian Hardy........................................................( Penn State )
14. OT - Blake Zubovic.......................................................(___Pitt_______)
15. DE - Marcellus Earlington.............................................(_____________)
16. DE - Jayson Oweh........................................................(_____________)
17. DE - John Morgan.........................................................(____Pitt______)
18. WR - Aron Cruicshank...................................................(_____________)
19. OT - Tyler Bradley.........................................................(_____________)
20. DE - K.J. Henry..............................................................(_____________)
21. LB - Brian Asamoah.......................................................(_____________)
22. OT - Christian Armstrong...............................................(_____________)
23. DB - Jordan Miner..........................................................(_____________)
24. OT - Chris Bleich...........................................................(___UCLA______)
25. WR - Darryle Simmons..................................................(____VT_______)

Record their school choice as time goes on.

Roar Lions Roar!

:)
 
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Fields is gone...multiple reasons why-distance, playing time, etc..

Parsons is interesting--I think if we beat OSU and have a great year he commits to Penn State. (I know why should that matter-other than momentum and to jump on the emotional bandwagon)

Lastly, I cant remember us being very lucky with Pennsylvania's Top rated national recruits as we didn't get; Pryor, Fitzgerald, McCoy, Spence, Revis, Floyd, etc.. (I know grades on some and punking out another ;)
Fitz was from Minnesota.
 
Looks like I was pretty close. In that post I assumed we would sign 22 last year and we signed 21. I said that would leave 13 spots this year (+1 for each early departure). The actual number is 15 (+1 for each early departure).

Maybe you're right and we'll sign 25. That means 10 underclassmen have to go unless kids greyshirt. Get back to me when that happens.
Just for accuracies sake, that post was allegedly from Jan 16.
In it, you predicted 21-22 in 16 class and 13-17 in 17 class. 13-17 was real low, but it was a year early prediction.
 
No attempt, scholar. From the article cited and linked by PearlSUJam above:

"During the 2014-15 academic year, the NCAA reported the Nittany Lions earned an APR score of 993 out of 1,000, a record yearly high for the program."

That information is a year old. For the 2015-16 academic year, the APR was 972. So why don't tell me the direction of the "trajectory?"

Ignorance is bliss, ain't it.
22 teams scored an APR for 2015-16 that was equal or higher than the previous year while 18 of them had a perfect score (also a higher number than the previous year). Football's APR is still above the national average and far above the 930 line for possible penalties.

Cry more about Sandy though, as PSU continues to win championships.
 
Sorry to go off topic and talk recruiting...
Jaelyn Duncan picks the Terps over the Buckeyes. I'll tell you what, Durkin is doing a good job getting most of the in state talent to stay right now. I don't know if it will continue, and of course he loses some too, but if I were an UMD fan I would be excited.
 
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For those gripping over Fields, Sean Clifford gave an interview on the KSN podcast yesterday. What an impressive kid. Says his arm is 100%, just has to get back the strength he lost recovering from the surgery. Says he was benching over 300 prior. Elite 11 QB, true blue Penn Stater. Was refreshing to hear.

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