Why have a discussion about it? Nothing we do or say is going to affect anything, and our opinions are all likely to be very wrong. Let the kids alone.
I'm sure JF knows of kids who are leaving. Those that are will be unnamed until they can enjoy the full bowl game experience.
RB's get hurt all of the time. One play from being a major contributor to a possible playoff team.
Yep.That, of course, does not happen at other positions.
These repeat conversations really crack me up.
As I see it, there are more guys that could play running back if needed than there are for any other position on the roster.
Nothing we do or say is going to affect anything, and our opinions are all likely to be very wrong.
Why have a discussion about it? Nothing we do or say is going to affect anything, and our opinions are all likely to be very wrong. Let the kids alone.
Yeah, but wouldn't we be really set if had a 4 star kid from say Detroit that runs a sub 4.4 40 and averaged almost 15 ypc already on the roster? Better yet, we could really get nuts and look at that kid that ran for over 7k yards in the WPIAL. Damn, if only we had those kind of options.Yep.
Yeah, but wouldn't we be really set if had a 4 star kid from say Detroit that runs a sub 4.4 40 and averaged almost 15 ypc already on the roster? Better yet, we could really get nuts and look at that kid that ran for over 7k yards in the WPIAL. Damn, if only we had those kind of options.
No, Donovan Johnson and Lamont.Are you talking about the kid that had 11 TD's and 700+ yards is one game? Remember, CJF had him promise that he would do the same at PSU during the 2017 class signing day......
It’s a free country, but this is the 2018 Recruiting thread, not the 885 man scholarship thread...Respectfully, I'd like to continue the 85 scholarship vs availabity of spots opening up discussion. I think this thread is the right place for that discussion. It's intriguing bc as it stands right now, PSU is "over" 85, and (other than SQB and Andre Robinson) there only a very small number of players who are either foreseeable transfers or would be major surprises/shockers/losses if they were to leave.
i find it intriguing bc the PSU media has not really taken a deep dive into the numbers. Even when certain podcasts and articles discuss it, they just say, basically, "welp, it looks like more guys are going to leave."
But there is no academic discussion or what-if-more don't. Just my opinion.
I think its one matter to speculate who, on the current roster, is leaving. Its another matter to be concerned about the total # of scholarships.....as I think James has that figured out.It’s a free country, but this is the 2018 Recruiting thread, not the 885 man scholarship thread...
It’s a free country, but this is the 2018 Recruiting thread, not the 885 man scholarship thread...
That would apply to everything we discuss on this board.
This the morning after Christmas in the James Franklin house, and the coach has just discovered he has 27 LOIs under the tree and Fax machine ready to accept a few more. The roster for the New Year's party has 90+ names and there is only enough food and drink for 85.
That's apparently the view of the situation for some on this board. But the truth is Coach Franklin and his staff have known for quite some time exactly how the numbers will work out for every situation they may encounter and what the depth chart will look like.
It is fun for all of us to speculate on the future, but silly to think this staff has not had an exact plan in place for weeks.
Merry Christmas to all !!!
This the morning after Christmas in the James Franklin house, and the coach has just discovered he has 27 LOIs under the tree and Fax machine ready to accept a few more. The roster for the New Year's party has 90+ names and there is only enough food and drink for 85.
That's apparently the view of the situation for some on this board. But the truth is Coach Franklin and his staff have known for quite some time exactly how the numbers will work out for every situation they may encounter and what the depth chart will look like.
It is fun for all of us to speculate on the future, but silly to think this staff has not had an exact plan in place for weeks.
Merry Christmas to all !!!
what is your view of the remaining target players?
Players in good standing, who simply are buried on the depth chart, get a great deal of help from staff finding a new home where they can play.totally agree - the staff would not be giving out offers to players without a plan going forward. most schools it comes down to four types of players who tend to move on (either mutually or not)
we potentially have a large number of players in these groups. Urban Meyer actually says that unless a player is seeing regular PT by his 3rd year, it is unlikely they will ever make an impact at tOSU. those players move on for personal or medical reasons.
- players who walked on an had a one year deal but have marginal playing time. these usually go first. they dont lose being on the team, just the scholie which was a bonus anyhow.
- players who would be in their 5th year and have limited playing time. these become the next group. these players should also have a degree.
- players in their 4th year with 2 yrs available but have limited playing time and the outlook is not solid for them.
- players who just move on due to their own reasons. the staff likely knew these players long ago.
this thread has gone to the dogs!
I don't think we have many in the 1st two categories.totally agree - the staff would not be giving out offers to players without a plan going forward. most schools it comes down to four types of players who tend to move on (either mutually or not)
we potentially have a large number of players in these groups. Urban Meyer actually says that unless a player is seeing regular PT by his 3rd year, it is unlikely they will ever make an impact at tOSU. those players move on for personal or medical reasons.
- players who walked on an had a one year deal but have marginal playing time. these usually go first. they dont lose being on the team, just the scholie which was a bonus anyhow.
- players who would be in their 5th year and have limited playing time. these become the next group. these players should also have a degree.
- players in their 4th year with 2 yrs available but have limited playing time and the outlook is not solid for them.
- players who just move on due to their own reasons. the staff likely knew these players long ago.
what is your view of the remaining target players?
I have no issues with people discussing scholarship limits but why muddy up the recruiting thread? I post questions about home improvement from time to time, but I do it in separate threads.I think its one matter to speculate who, on the current roster, is leaving. Its another matter to be concerned about the total # of scholarships.....as I think James has that figured out.
what is your view of the remaining target players?
I have no issues with people discussing scholarship limits but why muddy up the recruiting thread? I post questions about home improvement from time to time, but I do it in separate threads.
Why muddy up any thread crying?
Totally speculation, but I think he is looking for a place to go and see playing time. Barkley beat him from the start, and Sanders proved to be the #2 when he wasn't fumbling.
If he came to PSU we would be in the playoff this year.I wish I was as optimistic as you. Remember when it was a “lock” that Christian Wilkins was coming here?
If he came to PSU we would be in the playoff this year.
We could just as easily be in the playoffs this year had Buccholz not been hurt on first play of OSU game.
13 sacks in fewer than 5 full games this season
Put's them at 25 and also 91 players on scholarship. Signing 4 more is easy, eliminating 6 more players to get to down to 85 is the issue. But I'm sure JF and company know exactly what they are doing.I believe we actually do sir.
That would put us at the max of 25 if we are that fortunate.
Bc it sounds like rooting for certain players to leave. Not a great look.Respectfully, I'd like to continue the 85 scholarship vs availabity of spots opening up discussion. I think this thread is the right place for that discussion. It's intriguing bc as it stands right now, PSU is "over" 85, and (other than SQB and Andre Robinson) there only a very small number of players who are either foreseeable transfers or would be major surprises/shockers/losses if they were to leave.
i find it intriguing bc the PSU media has not really taken a deep dive into the numbers. Even when certain podcasts and articles discuss it, they just say, basically, "welp, it looks like more guys are going to leave."
But there is no academic discussion or what-if-more don't. Just my opinion.
I don't think anyone is rooting for certain players to leave. Just speculating on how to make the numbers work.Bc it sounds like rooting for certain players to leave. Not a great look.
Frank and honest conversations about what the player wants. "Do you want playing time? It won't be here, but you can stay and be a back up. If you want to leave, here are places I have friends who have openings at your position." Something like that.I don't think anyone is rooting for certain players to leave. Just speculating on how to make the numbers work.
I'm sure that the staff has it figured out but I'd hate to see kids pushed out instead of finishing their degrees. I'm curious about the legal workarounds.