Don't take my post as doubting his credentials or offer sheet, he's obviously a legit blue chipper, I'm questioning the espn 40 time and looking for info to back-up my suspicions.
2018 Recruiting Thread
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There are a total of 2 on the internet that I can find. So, it is legitimate to question except that where can you find a legitimate answer. His most current times come from Camps he attended. Added weight does not compute to slower speed, in fact, if is added muscle weight it normally means faster times. The accuracy of these numbers is suspect. Would love to see what he clocked in the 40 at PSU camps posted here if someone knows.
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That doesn't matter, because a certain poster says if you dominate against clearly physically inferior opponents you aren't a legit FBS talent. PSU, OSU, and all the rest are just delusional.
You are dead on with that statement, i think JoePa would love slugfests and lose in the trenches or special teams.
Iowa & Wisconsin loves the rollout and TE's on offense, rarely would they beat you on the wideouts, except Tim Dwight.
Franklin is doing the solid thing in shoring up the DLine and recruiting the 5*****.
Ok... Since you are buying ....I do the picking (Gentleman Jack) and I'm gonna man up a take it.
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According to Rivals Top 250 list, PSU is doing just fine and could even do better!
#5 Micah Parsons
#47 Justin Shorter
#53 Rickey Slade
#57 Rasheed Walker (Possible)
#63 Tyler Friday (Possible)
#111 Jack Kuntz
#124 Jason Oweh
#126 Isheem Young (Oh, what could have been)
#132 Pat Freiermuth
#147 Jahan Dotson
#164 P.J. Mustipher
#202 Nick Tarburton
#228 Daniel George
Don't even think about firing Coach Franklin!
#5 Micah Parsons
#47 Justin Shorter
#53 Rickey Slade
#57 Rasheed Walker (Possible)
#63 Tyler Friday (Possible)
#111 Jack Kuntz
#124 Jason Oweh
#126 Isheem Young (Oh, what could have been)
#132 Pat Freiermuth
#147 Jahan Dotson
#164 P.J. Mustipher
#202 Nick Tarburton
#228 Daniel George
Don't even think about firing Coach Franklin!According to Rivals Top 250 list, PSU is doing just fine and could even do better!
#125. Nana Asiedu
#5 Micah Parsons
#47 Justin Shorter
#53 Rickey Slade
#57 Rasheed Walker (Possible)
#63 Tyler Friday (Possible)
#111 Jack Kuntz
#124 Jason Oweh
#126 Isheem Young (Oh, what could have been)
#132 Pat Freiermuth
#147 Jahan Dotson
#164 P.J. Mustipher
#202 Nick Tarburton
#228 Daniel George
A guy named Saquon Barkley played lesser competition in high school they said.
Actually he didn’t and no one ever said that. He played in the EPC, one of the strongest football conferences in the state, full of talented 5A and 6A schools.
And rivals has many of these guys seemingly intentionally low as they typically do for PSU recruits. 247 is the only rankings anymore. Rivals bias has made their rankings practically worthless.According to Rivals Top 250 list, PSU is doing just fine and could even do better!
#5 Micah Parsons
#47 Justin Shorter
#53 Rickey Slade
#57 Rasheed Walker (Possible)
#63 Tyler Friday (Possible)
#111 Jack Kuntz
#124 Jason Oweh
#126 Isheem Young (Oh, what could have been)
#132 Pat Freiermuth
#147 Jahan Dotson
#164 P.J. Mustipher
#202 Nick Tarburton
#228 Daniel George
The Natural: Penn State expects Nazareth's Jahan Dotson to thrive in Happy Valley
Nazareth football star Jahan Dotson announces his intent to play for Penn State during a signing ceremony on Wednesday, December 20, 2017.
Mark WogenrichContact ReporterOf The Morning Call
He has unbelievable ball skills, some of the best that I’ve seen coming out of high school He’s just a natural football player. — Josh Gattis, Penn State receivers coach Josh Gattis, Penn State’s receivers coach, believed all season that Nazareth High star Jahan Dotson would end up in his position room. It just took some time.
“This is always a place we felt strongly about as far as a fit for him,” Gattis said recently, “and a place he felt strongly about when the opportunity presented itself. It was a no-brainer.”
Dotson, Nazareth’s all-state receiver, last month switched his commitment from UCLA to Penn State and signed his letter of intent during the early signing period. He joined a 22-player recruiting class ranked fourth in the country, Penn State’s first top-five class since 2000.
Dotson’s signing capped a three-year recruiting process that required patience on both sides. Ultimately, though, their comfort with each other, changes at UCLA and a pep talk from Saquon Barkley led Dotson and Penn State to reconnect in December.
Gattis and Penn State coach James Franklin noticed Dotson early, identifying him as a prospect during the receiver’s freshman year at Nazareth. In a timely moment of recruiting, Franklin watched both Dotson and Barkley during a 2014 Whitehall-Nazareth game at Nazareth, where Franklin arrived for a quick visit by helicopter.
But, as Gattis said before the Fiesta Bowl, “the recruiting process doesn’t always go your way.” Penn State’s 2018 class began filling quickly last year, Dotson took his time assessing his options and their relationship moved into a “holding pattern” last summer, Gattis said.
Dotson committed to UCLA in September but, at his Signing Day ceremony, said that Penn State “has always been in my heart.” After UCLA made a coaching change from Jim Mora to Chip Kelly, Dotson returned to Penn State, whose class then had an opening.
“It’s a no-brainer for Jahan because he loves Penn State,” Gattis said. “This was always a place that was at the top of his list. It comes as no surprise that he ended up signing with us, because he truly enjoyed being part of every visit here, every camp experience, his relationship with the coaching staff and what we do offensively.”
CAPTION
Barkley, who recently announced his decision to enter the NFL draft, had a significant impact as well. He and Dotson crossed paths in several sports during the 2014-15 school year, and Barkley spoke with Dotson during the recruiting process.
Before Dotson committed, Barkley told him that “Penn State’s a great place.”
“We were able to keep an in-state, local player home, which I think is a win-win for everybody,” Franklin said. “… I think in a big way Saquon Barkley had a big part in that. For a kid in that region — they're basically five minutes from each other — to see Saquon Barkley come here and thrive in so many areas, it just makes sense. It's good for Penn State.”
Dotson set Nazareth records for receptions (187), receiving yards (2,755) and receiving touchdowns (40), capping his career with a 62-catch senior season. Gattis said that Dotson brings a varied skillset to Penn State, which will allow him to play inside or outside positions.
Franklin even said that Dotson has the range to play defensive back.
“He has unbelievable ball skills, some of the best that I’ve seen coming out of high school,” Gattis said. “He’s just a natural football player. He’s a guy that, when you turn on the tape, it looks like everything comes easily.”
Dotson is among three receivers in Penn State’s 2018 recruiting class, which includes five-star prospect Justin Shorter, who is 6-4, 220 pounds. Dotson has a different build (5-11, 170) that Gattis said could add 10-15 pounds comfortably.
“You don’t look at him and say, ‘He’s a big guy,’ but everything he does is so natural,” Gattis said. “That’s the thing I’m most excited about. When I get him in our room, coach him and develop him, he’s going to take off even more.
“He’s already one of the more explosive guys in high school right now. Imagine what he can be once you get him in the weight room for a year or two. I feel like Jahan’s best football is ahead of him, and he’s played some really good football to this point.”
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Nazareth football star Jahan Dotson announces his intent to play for Penn State during a signing ceremony on Wednesday, December 20, 2017.
Mark WogenrichContact ReporterOf The Morning Call
He has unbelievable ball skills, some of the best that I’ve seen coming out of high school He’s just a natural football player. — Josh Gattis, Penn State receivers coach Josh Gattis, Penn State’s receivers coach, believed all season that Nazareth High star Jahan Dotson would end up in his position room. It just took some time.
“This is always a place we felt strongly about as far as a fit for him,” Gattis said recently, “and a place he felt strongly about when the opportunity presented itself. It was a no-brainer.”
Dotson, Nazareth’s all-state receiver, last month switched his commitment from UCLA to Penn State and signed his letter of intent during the early signing period. He joined a 22-player recruiting class ranked fourth in the country, Penn State’s first top-five class since 2000.
Dotson’s signing capped a three-year recruiting process that required patience on both sides. Ultimately, though, their comfort with each other, changes at UCLA and a pep talk from Saquon Barkley led Dotson and Penn State to reconnect in December.
Gattis and Penn State coach James Franklin noticed Dotson early, identifying him as a prospect during the receiver’s freshman year at Nazareth. In a timely moment of recruiting, Franklin watched both Dotson and Barkley during a 2014 Whitehall-Nazareth game at Nazareth, where Franklin arrived for a quick visit by helicopter.
But, as Gattis said before the Fiesta Bowl, “the recruiting process doesn’t always go your way.” Penn State’s 2018 class began filling quickly last year, Dotson took his time assessing his options and their relationship moved into a “holding pattern” last summer, Gattis said.
Dotson committed to UCLA in September but, at his Signing Day ceremony, said that Penn State “has always been in my heart.” After UCLA made a coaching change from Jim Mora to Chip Kelly, Dotson returned to Penn State, whose class then had an opening.
“It’s a no-brainer for Jahan because he loves Penn State,” Gattis said. “This was always a place that was at the top of his list. It comes as no surprise that he ended up signing with us, because he truly enjoyed being part of every visit here, every camp experience, his relationship with the coaching staff and what we do offensively.”
CAPTION
Barkley, who recently announced his decision to enter the NFL draft, had a significant impact as well. He and Dotson crossed paths in several sports during the 2014-15 school year, and Barkley spoke with Dotson during the recruiting process.
Before Dotson committed, Barkley told him that “Penn State’s a great place.”
“We were able to keep an in-state, local player home, which I think is a win-win for everybody,” Franklin said. “… I think in a big way Saquon Barkley had a big part in that. For a kid in that region — they're basically five minutes from each other — to see Saquon Barkley come here and thrive in so many areas, it just makes sense. It's good for Penn State.”
Dotson set Nazareth records for receptions (187), receiving yards (2,755) and receiving touchdowns (40), capping his career with a 62-catch senior season. Gattis said that Dotson brings a varied skillset to Penn State, which will allow him to play inside or outside positions.
Franklin even said that Dotson has the range to play defensive back.
“He has unbelievable ball skills, some of the best that I’ve seen coming out of high school,” Gattis said. “He’s just a natural football player. He’s a guy that, when you turn on the tape, it looks like everything comes easily.”
Dotson is among three receivers in Penn State’s 2018 recruiting class, which includes five-star prospect Justin Shorter, who is 6-4, 220 pounds. Dotson has a different build (5-11, 170) that Gattis said could add 10-15 pounds comfortably.
“You don’t look at him and say, ‘He’s a big guy,’ but everything he does is so natural,” Gattis said. “That’s the thing I’m most excited about. When I get him in our room, coach him and develop him, he’s going to take off even more.
“He’s already one of the more explosive guys in high school right now. Imagine what he can be once you get him in the weight room for a year or two. I feel like Jahan’s best football is ahead of him, and he’s played some really good football to this point.”
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It is great having so many early enrollments. It will not take long to get a feedback on their strengths and weaknesses. Also....their path to D1 position with Master Galt in the driver's seat.
This is a lot to read through. Can anyone provide a brief summary on how many slots are left and who the remaining targets are to fill them? Thanks
They have three slots left. Hopefully SAB has the grades and can sign his LOI. Enis and Walker are the top two targets with Tyler Friday visting, but more of a longshot.
The recruiting connection
The most important upgrades Franklin made to Penn State’s program came through recruiting. National services rank the (unfinished) 2018 class fourth, Franklin’s highest-ranked group at Penn State.
The class includes two of the nation’s top-15 recruits (defensive end Micah Parsons and receiver Justin Shorter) for the first time at Penn State since 2005. Over the past three years Penn State signed six of the 15 highest-ranked recruits in the program’s history. Among them are Pennsylvania’s top-ranked players (Miles Sanders, Lamont Wade and Parsons) the past three years.
Penn State’s last four classes (all ranked 20th or better nationally) feature 44 players ranked as four- or five-star recruits. In the four classes prior to that, Penn State had 16 such players.
That kind of recruiting has turned the roster into a competitive marketplace. That has emerged mostly at the skill positions but should show up soon on the offensive line, where linemen are beginning to reach their star-rating potential.
As a result, Penn State is better positioned to absorb departures (and create lineup competition) than it has been for longer than a decade.
The most important upgrades Franklin made to Penn State’s program came through recruiting. National services rank the (unfinished) 2018 class fourth, Franklin’s highest-ranked group at Penn State.
The class includes two of the nation’s top-15 recruits (defensive end Micah Parsons and receiver Justin Shorter) for the first time at Penn State since 2005. Over the past three years Penn State signed six of the 15 highest-ranked recruits in the program’s history. Among them are Pennsylvania’s top-ranked players (Miles Sanders, Lamont Wade and Parsons) the past three years.
Penn State’s last four classes (all ranked 20th or better nationally) feature 44 players ranked as four- or five-star recruits. In the four classes prior to that, Penn State had 16 such players.
That kind of recruiting has turned the roster into a competitive marketplace. That has emerged mostly at the skill positions but should show up soon on the offensive line, where linemen are beginning to reach their star-rating potential.
As a result, Penn State is better positioned to absorb departures (and create lineup competition) than it has been for longer than a decade.
Since there is no 2022 thread. 8th grade, 6'6", 350 pounds.
If I had to speculate, VA Tech or Maryland. Might be getting some local shade from the MD folks. I think he has finally ruled them out. Have not read anything about him canceling his OSU visit.
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Could be...or he could have said no to a girl at his high school or didn't show up to a party or something. Recruiting's weird like that.
Well,....???
https://www.blackshoediaries.com/20...otball-rasheed-walker-solomon-enis-friday-bsd
I few new (old) names.
https://www.blackshoediaries.com/20...otball-rasheed-walker-solomon-enis-friday-bsd
I few new (old) names.
Now CJF can focus on only 2-3 of the remaining scholarships, I wouldn't count him out finishing with a big splash. By that I mean somebody that's not on any analysts' radar. You just watch.
No one ever said that except a lot of people including recruiting analysts. Dont take offense, didnt say you did specifically. But I heard a lot of that when he was coming in.
If I recall, he was more of a late bloomer. Physically and on the field. Not sure how much PT he had as a soph. Cant see anyone who knows Eastern PA football knocking their level of competition.
Anyone familiar with the Polynesian Bowl? I see Solomon Enis is playing in it next Saturday. I could have sworn at some point I also saw that Parsons was on the roster too. I assume he isn't playing now because he enrolled early?
Loved the last line of the write up on Friday.....If he does make that visit, Friday’s recruitment will most likely come down to the Big Ten heavyweights and Michigan.
someone finally put Michigan where they belong....not a heavyweight..HA!
Prior to initial enrollment in a college
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Rasheed Walker interview with 11Warriors:
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.
hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind
BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent
BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.
hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind
BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent
BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent
As an aside, Northwestern's graduation rate is pretty damned impressive.
