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2018 Recruiting Thread

Rasheed Walker interview with 11Warriors:
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.

hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind

BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent

Not sure if it was Lind, but one of the O$U homers, thought the “family atmosphere and academic support” at O$U would favor them in the recruitment of Oweh. They are just fan boys with a larger megaphone.
 
Rasheed Walker interview with 11Warriors:
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.

hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind

BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent

Lind was the one who CB'd Oweh to tOSU after Oweh had singed. Again..Gleitiman is the OSU guy to watch for in terms of info and CB's. OSU feels good as they get the last visit and have a top 2-3 recruiter as a HC...don't blame them, but we'll have to see what happens. Franklin isn't going to lay down and is pretty good at this crootin stuff too.
 
Rasheed Walker interview with 11Warriors:
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.

hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind

BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent

I don't have any ulterior motive for this, but I would like to see the overall university graduation rate for all students next to each of those numbers. I think that would also say a lot too in a few cases. 'Cause you know every school would like those two numbers to be at least in the same ballpark.
 
Just like how OSU underestimated Franklin's relationship with Jim Saylor, Oweh's high school coach. I think OSU is underestimating Walker's relationship with Tyler Bowen.

Lind was the one who CB'd Oweh to tOSU after Oweh had singed. Again..Gleitiman is the OSU guy to watch for in terms of info and CB's. OSU feels good as they get the last visit and have a top 2-3 recruiter as a HC...don't blame them, but we'll have to see what happens. Franklin isn't going to lay down and is pretty good at this crootin stuff too.
 
I also don't recall anyone ever saying that Saquan Barkley playing lesser competition in HS.

Do you have a link of an analyst saying this? Rather than you just saying it anecdotally...

No one ever said that except a lot of people including recruiting analysts. Dont take offense, didnt say you did specifically. But I heard a lot of that when he was coming in.
 
I don't have any ulterior motive for this, but I would like to see the overall university graduation rate for all students next to each of those numbers. I think that would also say a lot too in a few cases. 'Cause you know every school would like those two numbers to be at least in the same ballpark.

OSU's is 83%, PSU's 85%.

The NCAA GSR is a bullshit number to begin with.
 
OSU's is 83%, PSU's 85%.

The NCAA GSR is a bullshit number to begin with.
Yeah I'm sure it is. I thought that after I made my post, I would fully expect there is a lot of manipulation of those numbers in many cases.
 
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Yeah I'm sure it is. I thought that after I made my post, I would fully expect there is a lot of manipulation of those numbers in many cases.

Yes, there is. The metric was created by the NCAA to reduce the embarrassment school presidents experienced, to the extent there was any, over some of the abysmal numbers put up. Along with the introduction of the GSR, the NCAA eliminated the release of raw data that would enable the public to get a better look at what was really taking place.
 
Wonderful kid. Loves football and hates drama. He's also a perfect example of why PSU title contention relies on Rutgers remaining abysmal. NJ is the most important state for the future of the program. Tons of NFL talent coming out of there. PSU is currently the best option for big-time football that's somewhat close to home. If Rutgers is remotely respectable this kid stays there. Delany did us a huge solid in adding MD and Rutgers to the conference. Gives us so much more presence in our traditional recruiting areas. And Rutgers did us a huge solid in being so bad for so long. Thank you Rutgers. Thank you Justin Shorter. Can't wait to see him in blue and white.
 
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Wonderful kid. Loves football and hates drama. He's also a perfect example of why PSU title contention relies on Rutgers remaining abysmal. NJ is the most important state for the future of the program. Tons of NFL talent coming out of there. PSU is currently the best option for big-time football that's somewhat close to home. If Rutgers is remotely respectable this kid stays there. Delany did us a huge solid in adding MD and Rutgers to the conference. Gives us so much more presence in our traditional recruiting areas. And Rutgers did us a huge solid in being so bad for so long. Thank you Rutgers. Thank you Justin Shorter. Can't wait to see him in blue and white.
Rutgers has been respectable before, and never sniffed a player as talented as Shorter.
That said, I agree with what you're saying about NJ talent. Just the competition has been ND/UM/OSU.
 
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Rasheed Walker interview with 11Warriors:
“I do a lot of research on my own, also,” he continued. “I research the graduation rate. Who they develop and who they send to the [National Football] League. I look at their roster. Just all the stuff like that.” All of that seems to favor Ohio State.

hahahahaha, righttttttt on Andrew Lind

BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent
Not to discredit our graduation rate, but this doesn’t address the evaluation of the rosters and track record of putting O linemen in the league.
 
Not to discredit our graduation rate, but this doesn’t address the evaluation of the rosters and track record of putting O linemen in the league.


Putting OL in the league changes over time. PSU had a spell of bad injuries combined with sanctions and depth issues.That is about to end. I for one believe Mr Walker is obviously smart and astute enough to understand that. The times they are a changing and the wise see the change. It is still his decision to make and whatever he chooses is fine by me. One can only hope that PSU makes it's case clearly and the lets the chips fall where they may.
 
The recruiting connection
The most important upgrades Franklin made to Penn State’s program came through recruiting. National services rank the (unfinished) 2018 class fourth, Franklin’s highest-ranked group at Penn State.

The class includes two of the nation’s top-15 recruits (defensive end Micah Parsons and receiver Justin Shorter) for the first time at Penn State since 2005. Over the past three years Penn State signed six of the 15 highest-ranked recruits in the program’s history. Among them are Pennsylvania’s top-ranked players (Miles Sanders, Lamont Wade and Parsons) the past three years.

Penn State’s last four classes (all ranked 20th or better nationally) feature 44 players ranked as four- or five-star recruits. In the four classes prior to that, Penn State had 16 such players.



That kind of recruiting has turned the roster into a competitive marketplace. That has emerged mostly at the skill positions but should show up soon on the offensive line, where linemen are beginning to reach their star-rating potential.

As a result, Penn State is better positioned to absorb departures (and create lineup competition) than it has been for longer than a decade.


"Penn State’s last four classes (all ranked 20th or better nationally) feature 44 players ranked as four- or five-star recruits. In the four classes prior to that, Penn State had 16 such players."


"The worm has definitely turned for you, man."
 
Graduation from many universities is easier than getting enrolled.
All the schools have to meet the same criteria to admit an athelete. But once there, the schools can do just about anything to dumb down the degree programs.
I’d suspect graduating from some schools is orders of magnitude more difficult than others. But the % of whoever makes it thru gets counted. So Northwestern percentage may be way beyond and more impressive than it looks based on the numbers comparing to the rest of the BIG


BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent[/QUOTE]
 
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Graduation from many universities is easier than getting enrolled.
All the schools have to meet the same criteria to admit an athelete. But once there, the schools can do just about anything to dumb down the degree programs.
I’d suspect graduating from some schools is orders of magnitude more difficult than others. But the % of whoever makes it thru gets counted. So Northwestern percentage may be way beyond and more impressive than it looks based on the numbers comparing to the rest of the BIG


BIG TEN EAST
Penn State: 84 percent
Indiana: 84 percent
Michigan: 82 percent
Rutgers: 82 percent
Maryland: 79 percent
Michigan State: 72 percent
Ohio State: 69 percent

BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern: 99 percent
Nebraska: 85 percent
Minnesota: 83 percent
Purdue: 81 percent
Illinois: 77 percent
Iowa: 76 percent
Wisconsin: 74 percent
[/QUOTE]


All schools have athlete-friendly majors, departments, deans, and professors. That said, not all schools have majors that are the equivalent of Home Ec.
 
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Walker's twitter activity is almost inverse to the CB predictions. So, keep expectations in check.

Much like Oweh, if you look at his recent twitter follows, it is all Penn State. Many in the PSU recruiting class, top 2019 targets that are PSU leans, and back office PSU staffers. Very few OSU associated accounts in comparison.

Not a guarantee for what he's going to do, but I think it is a pretty decent tell for what a recruit really feels. There is also a post on another board about one of our current signees feeling very confident he's coming here. It's 'crootin so things can change. But there is reason to be fairly optimistic right now imo.
 
Walker's twitter activity is almost inverse to the CB predictions. So, keep expectations in check.

Much like Oweh, if you look at his recent twitter follows, it is all Penn State. Many in the PSU recruiting class, top 2019 targets that are PSU leans, and back office PSU staffers. Very few OSU associated accounts in comparison.

Not a guarantee for what he's going to do, but I think it is a pretty decent tell for what a recruit really feels. There is also a post on another board about one of our current signees feeling very confident he's coming here. It's 'crootin so things can change. But there is reason to be fairly optimistic right now imo.
I'm confused, I read ChiTowns post as saying he was associating heavily with OSU acccounts? The "keep expectations in check" part. Or was that toward an OSU poster?
 
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In terms of likes and retweets, which seem to favor OSU. Didn't take a look at recent follows, which seem to favor PSU.

Twitter is funny. The sort on follows is different if you are looking via mobile or desktop. The PSU follows were at the top on mobile, it wasn't as noticeable on desktop. So, YMMV.
 
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So in other words, just like with everything else in regards to Walker, it would seem that Twitter is inconclusive.
Twitter would indicate that it's more of a coin toss. Neutralizes the conclusivity of the crystal balls. We're in a real dogfight for the services of Mr. Walker.
 
Twitter would indicate that it's more of a coin toss. Neutralizes the conclusivity of the crystal balls. We're in a real dogfight for the services of Mr. Walker.
The only CB's that matter in this are Fitz, Gleitman, and Wiltfong. They aren't really going to change them or anything until after the OSU OV. We'll see if Walker does take an unofficial after his visit to tOSU. CB's can and do change because recruits can and often do change over the course of a year...hell some after every visit.
 
Interview with Jurkovec.

"Staff that negative recruited the most"

"Pitt."


https://247sports.com/Article/Getting-to-know-Notre-Dame-QB-signee-Phil-Jurkovec-113393165

Pitt-Football-Narduzzi.jpeg
 
The good news is, whatever happens with Walker, this is still a fabulous class. He's merely the icing on an already fantastic cake.

Yep, from an overall talent perspective. But the numbers at OL seem the lowest of any position on the roster on a relative basis, and OL is usually the biggest crap shoot between ratings and actual development/performance. If CJF ends up with only 3 OL recruits in this class, he may have to go with 5 in the 2019 class.....
 
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