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2019 NCAAs -- Session 6 Thread

You think that air guitar demonstration of Hall didn't give Valencia some added incentive?

I remember when I criticized that guitar celebration by Hall a lot of you jumped me. Remember that @smalls103? You shouldn't give an elite competitor any more incentive to beat you. Valencia just loved shoving that guitar celebration back at Hall's face.

I am sure Hall didn’t care one bit. Probably thought it was funny. Create a custom celebration, expect one in return. I love Hall, but well played by Valencia.
 
I know that we are all the victims of unreasonable heightened expectations with this team, but does anyone else think Bo knew there was no way Moore was beating him and wrestled him way more conservatively to almost preserve Moore’s dignity. I just sensed he could’ve ripped him apart whenever he chose, but never chose to flip that switch. It also showed in his post match comments. He seemed much more composed and calm and his comments seemed less adrenaline fueled than normal. Almost like he just returned from the grocery store, rather than winning a natty.
 
I know that we are all the victims of unreasonable heightened expectations with this team, but does anyone else think Bo knew there was no way Moore was beating him and wrestled him way more conservatively to almost preserve Moore’s dignity. I just sensed he could’ve ripped him apart whenever he chose, but never chose to flip that switch. It also showed in his post match comments. He seemed much more composed and calm and his comments seemed less adrenaline fueled than normal. Almost like he just returned from the grocery store, rather than winning a natty.

Bo is a classy, Christian kid.
 
Koll's comments really came off as idiotic, and also rather rude.. Not that I need any more reasons to respect CS, but if his wrestler is in a final, you'll find him in the corner, and not being interviewed during the match. And whenever he does talk about other wrestlers or other teams, either before or after matches, he's very respectful of them. Koll said that Foster was very athletic, but only for the 1st half of matches. He indicated that Dean's conditioning would be a big factor, and probably the difference late in the match. So who gets taken down in the 3rd period? Dean. And which coach ends up looking like a fool? Koll


That is just Coach Koll. He lets it fly. His alumni newsletters provide brutal honesty about the strengths and weaknesses of the Cornell wrestlers. And when he is wrong, he admits it. Always with humor though.
 
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Regarding the head gear throw—it was probably Ant’s stiffest competition on the year. He just didn’t want to leave any doubt who da real champ is.
 
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Cassar and McCoy, PSU's 2 heavy weight champions have much in common. Not your typical heavy weights. Both undersized, they favor athleticism, technical skill and dedication to their craft. Great wrestlers in a weight class that too often pits 2 Manatees on the mat.
 
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I know that we are all the victims of unreasonable heightened expectations with this team, but does anyone else think Bo knew there was no way Moore was beating him and wrestled him way more conservatively to almost preserve Moore’s dignity. I just sensed he could’ve ripped him apart whenever he chose, but never chose to flip that switch. It also showed in his post match comments. He seemed much more composed and calm and his comments seemed less adrenaline fueled than normal. Almost like he just returned from the grocery store, rather than winning a natty.

Bo respects Moore, but saying he wrestled The NCAA Finals to try to preserve the dignity of his opponent is a bit much. If he could have got a pin without exposing himself to danger he would have 100% gone for it. My guess is that he planned to wrestle smart, build a lead, and get out of Pittsburgh as a 3X National Champion. Mission accomplished. It can be argued that taking too many risks in his match against Martin RS FR Year is why Bo is a 3X Champ instead of a 4 timer.
 
Cassar and McCoy, PSU's 2 heavy weight champions have much in common. Not your typical heavy weights. Both undersized, they favor athleticism, technical skill and dedication to their craft. Great wrestlers in a weight class that too often pits 2 Manatees on the mat.
I think for the most part the days of the 284.5 pound heavyweights leaning on eachother are over. Even the 250 pound heavies are athletic now.
 
I thought the same thing. Bo seemed to be in a prime position to turn him for the late major.
No it is called match awareness. Moore is not going anywhere with that cradle locked up, hold him there the last 20 seconds and win the match. Sometimes you can lose a cradle and put yourself in a bad spot. Bonus points were not needed, get the win and the big trophy.

I think PSU wrestled that way for much of the tournament, survive and advance. On paper, PSU was a huge favorite, no heroics necessary this year, hence don't take chances.
 
Bo respects Moore, but saying he wrestled The NCAA Finals to try to preserve the dignity of his opponent is a bit much. If he could have got a pin without exposing himself to danger he would have 100% gone for it. My guess is that he planned to wrestle smart, build a lead, and get out of Pittsburgh as a 3X National Champion. Mission accomplished. It can be argued that taking too many risks in his match against Martin RS FR Year is why Bo is a 3X Champ instead of a 4 timer.
That was Bo's growth, all 3 matches he lost in his career were the result of trying to force something. After the B1G loss to Martin as a Sophomore, he wrestled more with a take what was there approach. If guys wrestled him, they usually got destroyed. If not, he took the 3 to 6 point win like last night.
 
Bo respects Moore, but saying he wrestled The NCAA Finals to try to preserve the dignity of his opponent is a bit much. If he could have got a pin without exposing himself to danger he would have 100% gone for it. My guess is that he planned to wrestle smart, build a lead, and get out of Pittsburgh as a 3X National Champion. Mission accomplished. It can be argued that taking too many risks in his match against Martin RS FR Year is why Bo is a 3X Champ instead of a 4 timer.
Perhaps, but that is very un Bo-like. When do you ever remember him wrestling like that? And that was not how he wrestled the rest of the tournament. I just don’t think he was wrestling that way because he was afraid of taking too many risks. That’s not Bo. I think it may have been something else. And while you can argue that taking risks may have cost him against Martin as a RS FR, it may have been what got him the championship last year. So I don’t necessarily buy that.
 
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Perhaps, but that is very un Bo-like. When do you ever remember him wrestling like that? And that was not how he wrestled the rest of the tournament. I just don’t think he was wrestling that way because he was afraid of taking too many risks. That’s not Bo. I think it may have been something else. And while you can argue that taking risks may have cost him against Martin as a RS FR, it may have been what got him the championship last year. So I don’t necessarily buy that.
Could have been a bit of respect for Moore, or awareness of the risk/reward metrics, but I think likely it was just some big time perspective crashing down on him that his time in the blue and white was coming to an end. Probably a bit of each, really.
 
In all likelihood, the last time he'll ever do that.

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Perhaps, but that is very un Bo-like. When do you ever remember him wrestling like that? And that was not how he wrestled the rest of the tournament. I just don’t think he was wrestling that way because he was afraid of taking too many risks. That’s not Bo. I think it may have been something else. And while you can argue that taking risks may have cost him against Martin as a RS FR, it may have been what got him the championship last year. So I don’t necessarily buy that.
He’s wrestled controlled in some duals - Abounader for one. I think Moore still had an arm holding him back a bit. If it was a dual, I think he goes all out and horses him over, but I think he was playing it safe because his point was made. I don’t think he cares about Moore’s feelings one bit.
 
He’s wrestled controlled in some duals - Abounader for one. I think Moore still had an arm holding him back a bit. If it was a dual, I think he goes all out and horses him over, but I think he was playing it safe because his point was made. I don’t think he cares about Moore’s feelings one bit.

Moore had a shin whizzer. Stupid to risk going for it with their legs tangled up like that.
 
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Wrestling is one of those rare sports where despite PSU dominating for the NC..I come away the next day a bit sad...sad for Cenzo, sad for Mark, sad for Shakur who seems to be snake bitten with regards to health. And super sad that the blessing with which we have been blessed to watch Nolf and Nickal are officially over. Yet all this is back dropped by AC living out his dreams and beating the odds to be NC, adding 2 more 3 timers to the list to have done it here at PSU and finally adding 8/9 team titles. The year we swept 5 was truly the year of years. All five were back the following year, all 5 won and we won the tourney over all. Just different then other team only sports. If my QB has a bad day but we win the SB I really don't care at all. That's the difference.
 
Regarding the head gear throw—it was probably Ant’s stiffest competition on the year. He just didn’t want to leave any doubt who da real champ is.

That was more of a mic drop than a headgear throw.

What a treat it's been to get to "know" AC better this year and see him in action on and off the mat!
 
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