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2021 NCAAs
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The only thing that annoys me is the ref banter. Other than that, he’s just being a knucklehead in a funny way
Don't think anyone is questioning his wrestling credentials. It's all about the antics and theatrics, which like someone said, are gonna get old real fast.
Even if DeSanto, Warner and Cass were to lose both matches tomorrow, by the time the refs award the appropriate number of "Iowa do overs" they will still win 3 or 4 of those 6 losses.
lol, I think you're attempting to use that word in pretty much every post you make during the tournament.
Are you still having Internet issues, or something like that? You've been missed in the Session threads.
Dont, unless you put Marinelli back in too
Same here, however I just got a temporary reassignment to the slow house. Tom thanks for always having detailed PBP of damn near every match!!! Hammer that throttle down boys!!!
Here's hoping that there are no more injuries! The 141 and 174 finals are going to be epic!I think it's going down to the wire. Hoping that we'll have 3 finalists and the rest AAs, but that's a long ways off. Thinking you'll have 4 finalists, which will definitely make it a battle to the end. Good luck!
Iowa - 109
Penn St - 94.5
Okie St - 86.5
Forget about bonus and let's just take placement points.
All PSU has in the medal rounds is Beard & Kerk, both in 7th place matches. Let's say both win & Kerk even majors - that takes PSU to 97.5.
Each final is worth 4 points. Say PSU goes 4-0, that gets PSU to 113.5.
So, Iowa is sitting at 109, still have DeSanto, Warner & Cass. Each win in their first morning matches will be worth 3 pts each (jump from 6th to 4th, worst case). Then a win in their 5th place or 3rd place matches is worth a single point.
I don't have any fancy formula, but realistically, Iowa could lose every single match and PSU could win every single match, and Spencer Lee could still ice the title for Iowa by getting a major.
Let's say something insane happens, and DeSanto + Warner + Cass go 0 for 6 combined, and both Beard & Kerk win & one pins - then it just could be a very interesting Saturday night.
(109 vs 98.5, with PSU still able to earn 16+)
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Realistically, if even one of the three Iowa kids takes 3rd tomorrow, they pretty much clinched it w/ Spencer Lee lurking.
Penn St - 94.5
Okie St - 86.5
Forget about bonus and let's just take placement points.
All PSU has in the medal rounds is Beard & Kerk, both in 7th place matches. Let's say both win & Kerk even majors - that takes PSU to 97.5.
Each final is worth 4 points. Say PSU goes 4-0, that gets PSU to 113.5.
So, Iowa is sitting at 109, still have DeSanto, Warner & Cass. Each win in their first morning matches will be worth 3 pts each (jump from 6th to 4th, worst case). Then a win in their 5th place or 3rd place matches is worth a single point.
I don't have any fancy formula, but realistically, Iowa could lose every single match and PSU could win every single match, and Spencer Lee could still ice the title for Iowa by getting a major.
Let's say something insane happens, and DeSanto + Warner + Cass go 0 for 6 combined, and both Beard & Kerk win & one pins - then it just could be a very interesting Saturday night.
(109 vs 98.5, with PSU still able to earn 16+)
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Realistically, if even one of the three Iowa kids takes 3rd tomorrow, they pretty much clinched it w/ Spencer Lee lurking.
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Actually the guy I always think about when comparing Gable is Carlton Hasselrig
Fans of austere quantum mechanics already know that Penn State will win.
DeSanto, Warner and Cass are in the 3-6 consci round, and Young in the 7-8 match.
The Hawks have 109 and the most PSU can score is 124.5 and the most Oklahoma State can score is 127.
To mathematically eliminate PSU the Hawks need 16 team points either scored by the Hawks or missed by the Lions. For example if both consci PSU kids place 7th with regular decisions they lose 4 possible points for not getting pins. If Young finishes 7th that is a point. DeSanto finishes 3rd with one major that is 5.5 points, Cass finishes 4th that is 3.5 and Warner finishes 5th with a major that is 2 points. The total gained and lost is 4+1+5.5+3.5+2=16. That is one scenario.
Against Okie St Iowa needs 18.5 points, so using the same Iowa results in an Okie St scenario Iowa gains 12 points and Okie St has already lost 3 at 157. So let's give Lewallen 4th place with a reg decision which means Okie St has lost 1 placement point and 4 more for not getting pins, a total of 5. That's 20 total points without even considering the other 2 Cowboy grapplers.
The Hawks don't need everybody to win with pins, they just need to win a couple consci matches while PSU and OSU don't win all their matches with pins.
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so you’re saying there’s a chance !!!
Cael better get on it then. Goodale already creeping around the hotel lobby waiting for Griffith.
Lol and amen. As a guy who sometimes does PBP here myself, I have to laugh every time I see a new nick show up and tell everyone what they're doing wrong, and how things would be better if we all did things how they'd like it done. Or complain when someone dares to mention a score they haven't seen from another match or sport or league. If you need to be shielded from sports news because you're taping something, stay off the internet.
Yes they are! All four are top notch and will come with the entire arsenal. Eierman needs to get on his offense against Lee much more so than at B10s, where it was non-existent. Lee seems to be one of those guys who really studies matches and dissects his opponents. Unfortunately I don't see Lee falling for any of the funky traps Eierman sets for the unknowing. One second they're in on his leg and the next second they're in a Venus fly trap death cradle. Hope he does it against Lee tomorrow, but again, Lee will have studied and analyzed all the possibilities so don't see him falling for any of those shenanigans. LOL!
Definitely a couple good battles that may very well determine who gets the crown. Good luck!
You and me both, my friend. I always wait for one of the math majors to figure all that out; For me it's all about watching the battles!
I personally think what made Cassar a freak was his quickness. He would hit the blast double like Brown would hit but was 50+ pounds heavier.
so I think it’s actually 19-1 since 2017 & 23-1 since 2016
2016: 5-0
Nico, Zain, nolf, Bo, Morgan
2017: 5-0
Zain, nolf, Cenzo, Mark, Bo
2018: 5-0
Zain, nolf, Cenzo, mark, bo
2019:5-1
Lee (L), nolf, Cenzo, mark, bo, cassar
2021: 4-0
The big10 is the best wrestling conference so the number one guy in a certain big10 weight must be the best in the country...right? Definitely overrated and in a weak weight class for the big ten.
Still amazes me that Wisconsin is the only team to screw up this “free year” thing. 197 is loaded by Amos most certainly would be in AA discussion. Wick couldn’t of had more breaks in a loaded weight than what’s happened this year either lol.
Lol he definitely couldn’t be a linebacker. Its dtackle or bust if we’re talking an nfl type talent. Possibly a center. The nfl gets off over tall lineman with long arms tho. Gable doesn’t look to have either. I know he’s finally found the weight room at Minnesota but he’d have to hit it a lot harder. Aaron Donald is a freak of nature athletically. Gable isn’t anywhere close to him. He’s 280 with a six pack. Having said that I’m 100% sure donald has taken things that Gable can’t right now lol. WWE will turn him into a monster haha I can’t wait.
Now I think HW Cassar would of fit right in at Linebacker U
Close only counts in horse shoes & hand grenades. Beard had a great tourney, but the fact remains that we needed him to win one more match in the winner bracket to give us a more realistic shot at the team title.
How can Kemmer come back? 7 years of college!! He is like Bluto in Animal House! That is freakin crazy!
I think the better coulda woulda question is how much closer would the team score be if Warner wasn't gifted his first match.
I think Kemmer can apply for Social Security next year! 7 years of college baby! I would assume that Mark Smith and Cenzo can come back as well right? They still have eligibility if Kemmer can have 7 years?
Even though I believe we are the underdog in 3 of the 4 finals bouts, if you would have told me at the start of the season that IF we win the 4 finals bouts we win the TEAM title I would have taken that in a heartbeat. I'm amazed we are this close without 149, no points from Lee and Berge out. One helluva job by ALL!
I think that was said a little prematurely. When the dust settles I can see one or 2 hanging it up - especially if they win titles.
There are also rumors that Marinelli may hang it up (not trolling).
Agreed!! Great run. We have so many young killers on the roster no one will be able to stay with us for the next 4-5 years! The only reason Iowa may hold on next year is they can keep all these sixth year gray beards around otherwise they will toast! I don't see any young killers on their roster that can go head to head with ,Robbie(unless they let Spencer hang around for another 5 years!), RBY, Nick, Bartlett (who is a killa in waiting just need to settle on weight for him). Van Ness coming in. Berge and I like Bearclough at 157 with his long body type. Carter, Facundo, Brooks, Beard (when he has his coffee!) and Kirk!
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