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2022 Recruiting Class Thread

Jaishawn Barham with a pair of moderate confidence CBs to South Carolina. Posted by SC insiders, FWIW.

Shane Beamer is doing some recruiting work up in our area.
 
Jaishawn Barham with a pair of moderate confidence CBs to South Carolina. Posted by SC insiders, FWIW.

Shane Beamer is doing some recruiting work up in our area.
Some of these coaching staffs just stink. Reminds of hugh freeze at Ole Miss for a few years when they were able to nearly outrecruit Bama out of nowhere. Schiano shows up and suddenly top 100 players want to sign with Rutgers…..
 
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Some of these coaching staffs just stink. Reminds of hugh freeze at Ole Miss for a few years when they were able to nearly outrecruit Bama out of nowhere. Schiano shows up and suddenly top 100 players want to sign with Rutgers…..
Schiano has gotten a total of ONE recruit in the top-100. And a total of EIGHT 4* recruits over the past few classes. It's not like he's landing a bunch of 5* kids out of the blue, Hugh Freeze style.

Also, those eight 4* kids? NJ, NJ, KY, NJ, NY, PA, FL, PA.

In short, he's doing well in keeping local talent home and grabbing some kids from other areas who probably weren't priorities for the bigger programs.

Schiano coached in the NFL and was recently a coordinator at OSU (among his other experiences). He has credibility in coaching circles, and is a solid recruiter. PSU fans complain about elite PA kids going out of state instead of staying local and being a star here. Well, Schiano is convincing quite a few NJ kids to do exactly that -- stay local. Not any elite kids, but some good ones.

I don't see Rutgers contending for any conference titles, but I think he can get them to be a pretty competitive program. I can see why NJ/NY kids might be interested.
 
Schiano has gotten a total of ONE recruit in the top-100. And a total of EIGHT 4* recruits over the past few classes. It's not like he's landing a bunch of 5* kids out of the blue, Hugh Freeze style.

Also, those eight 4* kids? NJ, NJ, KY, NJ, NY, PA, FL, PA.

In short, he's doing well in keeping local talent home and grabbing some kids from other areas who probably weren't priorities for the bigger programs.

Schiano coached in the NFL and was recently a coordinator at OSU (among his other experiences). He has credibility in coaching circles, and is a solid recruiter. PSU fans complain about elite PA kids going out of state instead of staying local and being a star here. Well, Schiano is convincing quite a few NJ kids to do exactly that -- stay local. Not any elite kids, but some good ones.

I don't see Rutgers contending for any conference titles, but I think he can get them to be a pretty competitive program. I can see why NJ/NY kids might be interested.
Plus he’s the new shiny toy, and has surrounded himself with some decent recruiters. But eventually water seeks its own level, and things will return to normal. Saint Greg will schedule 3 OOC tomato cans then win 3 or 4 out of 9 BIG conference games. That puts him at a pretty constant 6/6 7/5 with the rare 8/4 season. In Rutgers World that makes him a hall of fame coach, and they name a couple of streets and buildings after him.
 
Schiano has gotten a total of ONE recruit in the top-100. And a total of EIGHT 4* recruits over the past few classes. It's not like he's landing a bunch of 5* kids out of the blue, Hugh Freeze style.

Also, those eight 4* kids? NJ, NJ, KY, NJ, NY, PA, FL, PA.

In short, he's doing well in keeping local talent home and grabbing some kids from other areas who probably weren't priorities for the bigger programs.

Schiano coached in the NFL and was recently a coordinator at OSU (among his other experiences). He has credibility in coaching circles, and is a solid recruiter. PSU fans complain about elite PA kids going out of state instead of staying local and being a star here. Well, Schiano is convincing quite a few NJ kids to do exactly that -- stay local. Not any elite kids, but some good ones.

I don't see Rutgers contending for any conference titles, but I think he can get them to be a pretty competitive program. I can see why NJ/NY kids might be interested.
I’m not going to spend 45 minutes researching a response, but he has 3 5.9 4 stars in this class alone and we have 4. That’s anomalous in my book big boy. You wanna split hairs on “well they’re mostly local and if I pick the service, not really a lot of consensus top 100 guys” - you can have at it.
 
Rutgers is doing well on the recruiting trail for Rutgers. Give them credit. They have something new to sell and that honeymoon period is right now. They will either produce on the field or they won't and it won't be hope to sell. I honestly don't care too much about Rutgers. There will always be a Rutgers or a Maryland or a UVA in our prime recruiting territory with a new staff and hope. Ohio St will always be buying top 100 players from California, Texas, and Florida.

Penn State only has to worry about Penn State and right now we are really picking up the recruiting. The 2022 class is looking very strong already and has more top talent headed our way. The 2023 class started off with an elite commit. Franklin has us trending strongly in the right direction in recruiting.
 
I’m not going to spend 45 minutes researching a response, but he has 3 5.9 4 stars in this class alone and we have 4. That’s anomalous in my book big boy. You wanna split hairs on “well they’re mostly local and if I pick the service, not really a lot of consensus top 100 guys” - you can have at it.
Hey, I’ll not argue with you that Schiano is having a great recruiting cycle. More power to him if he pulls it off. ( Before I continue please be advised that I think Schiano is in many ways a conman and a grifter).

But to compare Schiano to Freeze or even Beamer is really a stretch. Not that Greggy wouldn’t love him some bagmen. What coach wouldn’t? Rutgers is in a strange place. Many influential individuals in the state are annoyed that Rutgers is playing big time athletics, the state’s news media is also not Rutgers friendly. Just say that he’s under a constant microscopic scrutiny. If he’s breaking any rules those groups will gladly bring same to everyone’s attention.
 
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A lot can change with the DDS situation in a week, but...

Kaytron Allen, Jordan Allen, DDS, Driver, Winston all in the next week? Whoaaa. Especially after the run we just went on? Including '23 Birchmeier. I hope everyone enjoys this recruiting run we're on, definitely one of those high moments on the rollercoaster.
 
Hey, I’ll not argue with you that Schiano is having a great recruiting cycle. More power to him if he pulls it off. ( Before I continue please be advised that I think Schiano is in many ways a conman and a grifter).

But to compare Schiano to Freeze or even Beamer is really a stretch. Not that Greggy wouldn’t love him some bagmen. What coach wouldn’t? Rutgers is in a strange place. Many influential individuals in the state are annoyed that Rutgers is playing big time athletics, the state’s news media is also not Rutgers friendly. Just say that he’s under a constant microscopic scrutiny. If he’s breaking any rules those groups will gladly bring same to everyone’s attention.
That is a fair point. Maybe calling him Hugh freeze is a stretch. Pissed he is pulling top notch LB out from under our noses….
 
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Wiltfong just updated his CB confidence from 1 to 7 for DDS to the good guys 👀
Huge.

Not just based on his ranking and on field talent but from every interview I've heard with those in the recruiting business, DDS is the kind of guy you want representing your program and seems like a genuine good guy too. A long week still to go (and more until signing day) but I'd sure rather be sitting with an updated crystal ball pointing in our direction than the other way around!
 
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That is a fair point. Maybe calling him Hugh freeze is a stretch. Pissed he is pulling top notch LB out from under our noses….
Perhaps he missed Parsons going at #12 in the first round or the gazillion PSU LBs that were drafted and big successes in the NFL? Rutgers and pretty much no other school is on the same level. But I suppose he could still get there.
 
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A lot can change with the DDS situation in a week, but...

Kaytron Allen, Jordan Allen, DDS, Driver, Winston all in the next week? Whoaaa. Especially after the run we just went on? Including '23 Birchmeier. I hope everyone enjoys this recruiting run we're on, definitely one of those high moments on the rollercoaster.
Not to get ahead of ourselves or anything! It would be sweet though....
 
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Perhaps he missed Parsons going at #12 in the first round or the gazillion PSU LBs that were drafted and big successes in the NFL? Rutgers and pretty much no other school is on the same level. But I suppose he could still get there.
But you criticized PA kids for going to elite programs and getting lost in the depth chart rather than coming to PSU and getting more playing time.

Wouldn't the logic work the same way here? Much clearer path for early playing time at Rutgers than PSU with a pretty talented LB room.

That game goes both ways.

Some kids value staying local and being a bigger fish in a smaller pond. It happens.
 
A lot can change with the DDS situation in a week, but...

Kaytron Allen, Jordan Allen, DDS, Driver, Winston all in the next week? Whoaaa. Especially after the run we just went on? Including '23 Birchmeier. I hope everyone enjoys this recruiting run we're on, definitely one of those high moments on the rollercoaster.
Ran the numbers. That would bring us up to 267 and change on the class calculator.

With 23 commits, that's good enough for a class ranked at about #8-12 based on past years. Add a few more guys on top of that -- an OL or two, for instance -- and figure in bumps for Saunders and Allar, and that's probably good enough for a class ranked around #7-8 nationally. Our best class since 2018.
 
Plus he’s the new shiny toy, and has surrounded himself with some decent recruiters. But eventually water seeks its own level, and things will return to normal. Saint Greg will schedule 3 OOC tomato cans then win 3 or 4 out of 9 BIG conference games. That puts him at a pretty constant 6/6 7/5 with the rare 8/4 season. In Rutgers World that makes him a hall of fame coach, and they name a couple of streets and buildings after him.
I agree with the shiny new object plus given how decimated RU talent level immediate play time is more than a given for everyone except DT and OL. Greg has a pretty good resume, high football IQ and doesn't require a great OC to be successful like CJF does. I would be surprised if there is some negative game day performances being used against CJF.

I wouldn't be surprised if CJF pours on the points against RU to put Greggy in his place the next couple of years especially with the current talent disparity.
 
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I agree with the shiny new object plus given how decimated RU talent level immediate play time is more than a given for everyone except DT and OL. Greg has a pretty good resume, high football IQ and doesn't require a great OC to be successful like CJF does. I would be surprised if there is some negative game day performances being used against CJF.

I wouldn't be surprised if CJF pours on the points against RU to put Greggy in his place the next couple of years especially with the current talent disparity.
I’m not a vindictive person, nor am I angry at the recruiting success Rutgers is having. That wouldn’t be right. But perhaps having Michigan come out of its coma, and joining PSU, OSU and Wisconsin in pounding them this year might show those delusional fools how far they have to go would be appropriate. But that wouldn’t be nice of me to say.
 
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LOL, former PSU CB target from Texas with a comment about the recent Rutgers commitment reveal:




For context, Humphrey's commitment to Florida was as follows: 🤣

 
LOL, former PSU CB target from Texas with a comment about the recent Rutgers commitment reveal:




For context, Humphrey's commitment to Florida was as follows: 🤣

Every year there are certain recruits that some programs back away from for unspecified "culture" or "fit" reasons. Julian Humphrey is one of them.

Dude is a me-first guy to the extreme.

Probably a good fit at Florida.

I'm all about kids having fun with their announcements and enjoying their moment. But these head fake announcements that rub other coaches'/teams' face in the dirt are dick moves.
 
Every year there are certain recruits that some programs back away from for unspecified "culture" or "fit" reasons. Julian Humphrey is one of them.

Dude is a me-first guy to the extreme.

Probably a good fit at Florida.

I'm all about kids having fun with their announcements and enjoying their moment. But these head fake announcements that rub other coaches'/teams' face in the dirt are dick moves.
I just found it mildly amusing; wasn't attempting to make a comment on his character and apologies if it projected in that manner.

On a separate note, ironically Florida may end up being in the first part of the graphic (in the position currently occupied by A&M) considering the fact that the recruit's last 8 tweets before the one I posted were all about a new offer from Georgia and exploring options.

Concerning "head fake" announcements, apparently current PSU commits were less concerned about the head fake itself (for the Rutgers commitment) than they were with the fact that apparently CJF and AZ were tagged in the subject tweet. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Please don't waste another breathe on a Rutger's commit that snubbed PSU. 24-1 all-time, and we're currently on a 14-game win streak. They are trash, and will remain trash. I don't care who the coach is.

Good for Walker on earning a scholarship - now he can enjoy being a BIG doormat for his career, as well as being stampeded by Singleton, Allen, Shelton, Birchmeier, etc. He burned his bridge, after Rutgers goes 3-9 this season, he'll be looking to flip just like the rest of that class.
 
Please don't waste another breathe on a Rutger's commit that snubbed PSU. 24-1 all-time, and we're currently on a 14-game win streak. They are trash, and will remain trash. I don't care who the coach is.

Good for Walker on earning a scholarship - now he can enjoy being a BIG doormat for his career, as well as being stampeded by Singleton, Allen, Shelton, Birchmeier, etc. He burned his bridge, after Rutgers goes 3-9 this season, he'll be looking to flip just like the rest of that class.
Now those are the type of things that I was going to say. But seeing as how I’m not that kind of person, I can’t say that I wish the Seven Biblical Plagues of Egypt to curse Rutgers for eternity.
 
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But you criticized PA kids for going to elite programs and getting lost in the depth chart rather than coming to PSU and getting more playing time.

Wouldn't the logic work the same way here? Much clearer path for early playing time at Rutgers than PSU with a pretty talented LB room.

That game goes both ways.

Some kids value staying local and being a bigger fish in a smaller pond. It happens.
It could work out for him. Rutgers just doesn't have quite the same record of developing LBs. They would be an easier path to playing time though. A high 4 star isn't at significant risk of getting lost on PSU's depth chart at any position though.
 
Please don't waste another breathe on a Rutger's commit that snubbed PSU. 24-1 all-time, and we're currently on a 14-game win streak. They are trash, and will remain trash. I don't care who the coach is.

Good for Walker on earning a scholarship - now he can enjoy being a BIG doormat for his career, as well as being stampeded by Singleton, Allen, Shelton, Birchmeier, etc. He burned his bridge, after Rutgers goes 3-9 this season, he'll be looking to flip just like the rest of that class.
Perhaps in a typical situation there may be regret, but something seems to suggest that his proximity to home would still outweigh the win-loss record of his team. The free content from approximately a week ago suggested that PSU did very well just to make it interesting. Again, different recruits have different priorities and, although rare, the prestige and potential for championships which drive some (making it difficult for teams such as PSU that have not yet been in the playoffs as an example) are not necessarily the primary decision-making factors for others... 🤷‍♂️
 
Perhaps in a typical situation there may be regret, but something seems to suggest that his proximity to home would still outweigh the win-loss record of his team. The free content from approximately a week ago suggested that PSU did very well just to make it interesting. Again, different recruits have different priorities and, although rare, the prestige and potential for championships which drive some (making it difficult for teams such as PSU that have not yet been in the playoffs as an example) are not necessarily the primary decision-making factors for others... 🤷‍♂️

I'm not doubting his reasoning for going to Rutgers. Some kids want to stay home, and he might be buying into the "started from the bottom" mentality that Schiano is instilling there. But the announcement and dig at the coaching staff was classless, especially coming from a perennial doormat. Even after he was given the star treatment on our campus. Again, good for him and congratulations, but we are going to bash their face in for the next four years regardless. If you don't think Franklin doesn't enjoy embarrassing the enemy, just ask Narduzzi.

Bottom line - being cocky and disrespectful when committing to the worst program in college football isn't going to get you anywhere.
 
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