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Shaking and Rumbling in ACC land. UNC making all the moves to leave the ACC and are nearing an announcement thought to be happening sometime this spring. Big Ten? SEC? No one knows for sure at this point. ESPN said to be in the middle of this and driving the next round of expansion. UNC FSU Clemson and maybe a Fla school said to be gone. If all of that is accurate it effectually guts the conference sending the ACC and maybe even the Big 12 to a Group of 5 level as none of those schools at this point are projected to go to the Big 12.

It would seem that UNC has done all the work it needs to do to prepare their departure from the league with PE playing a big part. Should be an interesting spring for league expansion?
 
If ESPN is driving this, they are driving it to the SEC.
For sure but in the end money talks. I guess we will see who is willing to meet more of the demands/needs of certain teams and how much they're wanted if at all. One thing I'm pretty sure of when UNC is gone the ACC as it has always been known dies.
 
Shaking and Rumbling in ACC land. UNC making all the moves to leave the ACC and are nearing an announcement thought to be happening sometime this spring. Big Ten? SEC? No one knows for sure at this point. ESPN said to be in the middle of this and driving the next round of expansion. UNC FSU Clemson and maybe a Fla school said to be gone. If all of that is accurate it effectually guts the conference sending the ACC and maybe even the Big 12 to a Group of 5 level as none of those schools at this point are projected to go to the Big 12.

It would seem that UNC has done all the work it needs to do to prepare their departure from the league with PE playing a big part. Should be an interesting spring for league expansion?
The fate of the ACC is clear. North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami will flee to greener pastures. The rest will plead with the MAC to take them in. The pitters might even degenerate to playing in a city conference with Point Park, Duquesne, etc. The future of the ACC castoffs is not bright.
 
The fate of the ACC is clear. North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami will flee to greener pastures. The rest will plead with the MAC to take them in. The pitters might even degenerate to playing in a city conference with Point Park, Duquesne, etc. The future of the ACC castoffs is not bright.
Also it seems the GOR is toast in 2031 if it all gets that far.
 
They could salvage an ACC, but it would probably require Uconn to at least help with the basketball and then maybe a couple AAC schools
True but using the PAC as an example no one would care and almost no one would watch. Landing a TV package of any consequence would be challenging at best just like the PAC.
 
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If ESPN is driving this, assuredly UNC is going to the SEC. Clemson and FSU probably as well as neither meet the AAU requirement of the B1G. Perhaps Miami, GT, and Duke would be in play for the B1G.
 
If ESPN is driving this, assuredly UNC is going to the SEC. Clemson and FSU probably as well as neither meet the AAU requirement of the B1G. Perhaps Miami, GT, and Duke would be in play for the B1G.
I would think Miami and GT, maybe.

After UNC and ND, I would think GT would be a great grab if we could get them. Not sure why I included ND in ACC discussions since they are not a card-carrying member. IMO ND would be a standalone get and only come into play when the ACC Exodus happens.
 
I think you guys are underrating Virginia. Brings a whole state with a bunch of electoral votes. Plus I went to law school there.
UVA doesn't bring a whole state. Northern Virginia is heavily populated by transplants who bring their loyalties with them. The departure of UMD from the ACC also hurt the media coverage of the ACC in the Washington market, and that hurt UVA's visibility in an area that already wasn't that enthusiastic. In as much as UVA has an undergraduate enrollment of just under 17,500 as compared just under 30,500 at Virginia Tech, there are fewer alumni, family and friend connections that help build the fan base. The nature of UVA as a school more similar to Cal-Berkley than schools like UM or Texas also limits it as a sports brand. I'm not suggesting VT as an alternative to UVA, but as a 37-year resident of Virginia, I don't see either as that appealing to the SEC or B10.
 
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I think you guys are underrating Virginia. Brings a whole state with a bunch of electoral votes. Plus I went to law school there.
VA wants to go wherever UNC goes but will the SEC actually take them. UNC is still saying little brother NCS has to come along. So those two to the SEC. Supposedly the SEC only wants to take 4 teams tops from the ACC.

Petitti is supposedly only interested in TV ratings at this point and his choices would only be three teams ND, FSU and Miami. But I wouldn't count out GT. I think it's more likely that Miami and GT to the Big. The only way that the Big can land ND is if ND just gets starved out financially after all the dust settles.

A bunch of stuff is going on with the networks. NBC is not happy with getting a shorter end of the stick in broadcasting mostly getting lesser teams in bad time slots. ND is not happy with the ACC and their slice of the financial pie along with scheduling and not happy with their contract with NBC. So, there will be some tough negotiations going on between all three entities there.

ACC is already targeting replacement teams incase realignment happens this year and supposedly ESPN is onboard there.

ESPN is driving the bus for all of this.
 
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If ESPN is driving this, assuredly UNC is going to the SEC. Clemson and FSU probably as well as neither meet the AAU requirement of the B1G. Perhaps Miami, GT, and Duke would be in play for the B1G.

That would be one of the worst outcomes possible. It would cement the SEC as the best conference for decades.

If it’s true Petitti is only concerned with tv ratings, (which is likely true as that’s what’s driving the $$$ now), Georgia Tech and Duke are just horrible choices. Miami’s not that great either but they do have more national reputation and a hook into Florida for tv and recruiting. FSU and Miami would be the best pickup IMO.

It will be interesting to see if ND’s attitude starts to change now. Clearly they want to remain independent and as long as the ACC allows them to be half in/ half out it will continue. They do have to realize though that the SEC and B10 only have so many spots. They may find themselves on the outside looking in with no place to go in a drastically changed college football landscape where it’s too late to make a needed move.
 
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That would be one of the worst outcomes possible. It would cement the SEC as the best conference for decades.

If it’s true Petitti is only concerned with tv ratings, (which is likely true as that’s what’s driving the $$$ now), Georgia Tech and Duke are just horrible choices. Miami’s not that great either but they do have more national reputation and a hook into Florida for tv and recruiting. FSU and Miami would be the best pickup IMO.

It will be interesting to see if ND’s attitude starts to change now. Clearly they want to remain independent and as long as the ACC allows them to be half in/ half out it will continue. They do have to realize though that the SEC and B10 only have so many spots. They may find themselves on the outside looking in with no place to go in a drastically changed college football landscape where it’s too late to make a needed move.
While there is still a chance to get UNC it is a slim chance at best especially if UNC wants to move soon. IMO there is no way the Big 10 touches anything that is in litigation.

Eventually ND (the Evil Empire) will have to choose a league, personally I hope they die a slow painful death in independence land.

The Big 10's criteria for taking a team are tough. But for the Big taking an ACC team the pickings are slim, and the criteria is still tough. However, there are a couple things that might change that a little. One I expect the playoff to go to 14 teams maybe 16. Two the SEC and the Big according to some will push for 4 teams for each league to be in the playoffs especially when they increase the invites to 14/16 for 2026.

IMO as it stands for the ACC at this time the SEC will get the picks of the litter. The Big 10 is on the outside looking in but might not care.

UNC is the plum but a very unlikely get for the Big 10 at this point. After that it you would think it would be a Fla team. Probably not FSU while they have all the things the Big would desire except AAU, they are such a loose cannon they will be a headache for anyone.

A lot will be determined after the SEC Big 10 meetings. The two are starting to look like partners on most issues. So, a lot to be determined.

For me personally I could easily live with a UVA said to be going wherever UNC goes, GT and a Miami even though Miami is an ugh for me and maybe the Big 10 too. Miami has its own set of issues and playing in a rent a stadium is not the least of them.

Perhaps from a Big 10 perspective other than the desire for UNC and getting into the Fla market the Big could easily live without taking any ACC team. Fact is they don't need to take any of them.

So upcoming things to keep an eye the ACC ESPN meeting. The SEC and Big 10 meeting, and a UNC announcement on their intentions. Those things will/should offer more clarity.
 
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The real question is, how much longer does the NCAA stay in business with the upcoming settlement or exerts control over football and basketball.

I’m going with 6 months. Then we get a whole new conversation about conferences and structure.
 
That would be one of the worst outcomes possible. It would cement the SEC as the best conference for decades.

If it’s true Petitti is only concerned with tv ratings, (which is likely true as that’s what’s driving the $$$ now), Georgia Tech and Duke are just horrible choices. Miami’s not that great either but they do have more national reputation and a hook into Florida for tv and recruiting. FSU and Miami would be the best pickup IMO.

It will be interesting to see if ND’s attitude starts to change now. Clearly they want to remain independent and as long as the ACC allows them to be half in/ half out it will continue. They do have to realize though that the SEC and B10 only have so many spots. They may find themselves on the outside looking in with no place to go in a drastically changed college football landscape where it’s too late to make a needed move.
Absolutely it will cement the SEC as the best of the best. I think it’s vital that the B1G gets into the Carolinas and Florida, two high growth states. Duke and Miami obviously are a lot smaller than the typical university in this Conference, but national recognition and tv ratings are significantly higher than the two Virginia schools. NC State does not have AAU accreditation, so it’s a no go. GT has a very typical B1G profile of great research-focused academics and large student population size. There is a lot of potential for football revenue generation in that market. I said in the past that I would take Pitt in a heartbeat to finally have a real rival again, but they obviously do not meet the revenue generation standards for the conference.
 
Yeah the Insider info apparently was wrong again but who knows what happens next
Looking back at the original post, both things could be true. By the time insider gets the info it could be old, and it does say ESPN in the middle. ESPN ok’ing the option doesn’t even mean UNC has bailed out on a PE deal….could be creating leverage against UNC doing it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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