All Time Team

[theXbomber]

We've put together all-time football teams. Curious as to who everyone thinks the all-time wrestlers would be so there may be some recency bias. . I'm not as old school as some, but my tentative list would be

125 - Nico
133 - Abe (bumping him up from 126 at the time)
141 - Hughes? He was 142.
149 - Zane (over Molinaro)
157 - Nolf
165 - Taylor (Cenzo could take this as crazy as it sounds)
174 - Ruth
184 - Nickal
197 - Wright
285 - McCoy

 

[anon_hrvfdzi3wg4r3]

We've put together all-time football teams. Curious as to who everyone thinks the all-time wrestlers would be so there may be some recency bias. . I'm not as old school as some, but my tentative list would be

125 - Nico
133 - Abe (bumping him up from 126 at the time)
141 - Hughes? He was 142.
149 - Zane (over Molinaro)
157 - Nolf
165 - Taylor (Cenzo could take this as crazy as it sounds)
174 - Ruth
184 - Nickal
197 - Wright
285 - McCoy

Does Andy Matter find his way onto this list somehow?!

 

[RoarLions1]

Zain.

If the criteria is Career Win %, here's the top-25 all-time...feel free to pick-and-choose by weight class (not listed), though several guys moved up and cover more than one in their career. Also, didn't check, this may not yet include this year's NCAA results.

1 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 136-3-0 97.8%
2 David Taylor 2011-2014 134-3-0 97.8%
3 Zain Retherford 2014-2018 121-3-0 97.6%
4 Andy Matter 1970-1972 58-2-0 96.7%
5 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 85-3-0 96.6%
6 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 81-3-0 96.4%
7 Mark Hall 2017-2018 59-3-0 95.2%
8 Dick Lemyre 1952-1954 40-3-0 93.0%
9 Jack Light 1935-1937 25-1-1 92.6%
10 Jim Martin 1986-1989 155-9-4 92.3%
11 John Johnston 1956-1958 43-4-0 91.5%
12 Andrew Long 2011-2011 20-2-0 90.9%
12 Cary Kolat 1993-1994 60-6-0 90.9%
14 JaMarr Billman 1998-1999 56-6-0 90.3%
15 Jim Maurey 1948-1950 18-2-0 90.0%
15 F.W. Kaiser 1925-1927 18-2-0 90.0%
17 Sam Harry 1942-1946 35-4-0 89.7%
18 Sanshiro Abe 1993-1996 125-15-0 89.3%
18 Kerry McCoy 1993-1997 150-18-0 89.3%
20 Charlie Getty 1972-1974 30-4-0 88.2%
21 Matt Brown 2012-2015 118-16-0 88.1%
22 Ross Shaffer 1936-1938 29-4-0 87.9%
23 Jeremy Hunter 1997-2000 123-17-0 87.9%
24 Vincenzo Joseph 2017-2018 42-6-0 87.5%
24 Homer Barr 1949-1951 42-6-0 87.5%

 

[matter7172]

I'd go with Jeff Prescott or Jim Martin at the 125 slot, much as I like Nico. And I'd probably go with Kolat at 141. I have to go with Matter at 174 and leave a tie between Ruth and Nickal, although Saturday night's win gives the tie-breaker to Bo.

But a pretty good list.

 

[ac98]

118/125 -Prescott
126/133 -Abe
134/141 - Retherford
142/149 - Molinaro
150/157 - Nolf
158/165 - Taylor
167/174 - Ruth
177/184 - Nickal
190/197 - Wright
HWT- McCoy

 

[RoarLions1]

A couple factors to consider when trying to field an all-time best, by weight class, that make it tough, imo...

1) Guys change weights
2) Weight classes change, last in 1999, when 118-126-134-142-150-158-167-177-190-hwt (from 1970 through 1998), went to 125-133-141-149-157-165-174-184-197-hwt.
3) There's different era's

 

[LemonPie]

I'm offended that you'd exclude hundreds of dedicated individuals that represented PSU with class and dignity.

Who are we, from behind the comforts of a keyboard, to say who is best? Did you consider academics? Civil service?

 

[TangSoo]

I can't make a case for the Moore brothers over Abe or Hughes, but they belong on the travel squad.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Jimmy Martin at 125 for me, full disclosure, he is from my hometown. If you factor in academics, well he is an orthopedic surgeon now.

 

[lions#1]

Crazy to think but we never had a NCAA three time champion until Ed Ruth accomplished it in 2014. Now we can add Zain to that list for 2018. Hopefully, next year 2019 we could add three in one year to that list with Jason, Vin, and Bo. Just a totally amazing run for this team and these young men. I'm routing hard for Mark to win in 2019 and 2020 and add his name to that list. These guys all belong on that all time list IMHO

 

[RandyL]

I can no longer pick a team like that for PSU wrestling... too difficult.
Excepting maybe two guys or so, I can't begin to pick our alltime football team.
IIRC Matter wrestled the same weight all 3 yrs..167 or 165 or whatever it was back then.

 

[nitlion6]

Jimmy Martin at 125 for me, full disclosure, he is from my hometown. If you factor in academics, well he is an orthopedic surgeon now.

He also got 1 B.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

He also got 1 B.

He did and I believe it was a gym class no less!!

 

[Lyco1990]

He did and I believe it was a gym class no less!!

Ballroom Dancing is what I understand. BTW he lost during the epic Gable loss at Carver Hawkeye although fellow Danville alum Rob Meloy stuck his Hawkeye (he never lost to an Iowa Wrestler) for the win.

 

[El-Jefe]

I'd go with Jeff Prescott or Jim Martin at the 125 slot, much as I like Nico. And I'd probably go with Kolat at 141. I have to go with Matter at 174 and leave a tie between Ruth and Nickal, although Saturday night's win gives the tie-breaker to Bo.

But a pretty good list.

Kolat over Hughes is a hard sell for me, because this is a PSU list. He won his titles at Lock Haven.

If it were an overall career list, no argument from me at all.

 

[a_mshaffer]

Kolat over Hughes is a hard sell for me, because this is a PSU list. He won his titles at Lock Haven.

If it were an overall career list, no argument from me at all.

what was the reasoning for Kolat's transfer (I wasn't around at the time)... High level, not asking for dirt.

 

[royboy]

what was the reasoning for Kolat's transfer (I wasn't around at the time)... High level, not asking for dirt.

No inside info, but I believe it was partying too hard, needed a restart

 

[PSUAllTheWay]

I seem to recall Coach Fritz commenting at the time that Cary needed to spend as much time in the library as he did in the wrestling room ....

 

[psu_flip]

In a Flo documentary Kolat says that the conflict arose over Cary wanting to redshirt and Fritz telling him that it wasn't his decision to make. Cary basically felt that the staff didn't have his back and left. He said in the documentary that the whole situation could've probably been handled differently.

 

[Hartzie]

Pretty tough to keep Fritz and Matter off this list.

 

[kingslayer_85]

Jimmy Martin at 125 for me, full disclosure, he is from my hometown. If you factor in academics, well he is an orthopedic surgeon now.

If your still in Danville just guessing you don’t get to where that outfit much in you avatar