Another ACC team thumping one of PSU's "signature wins"...
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Yes. USC, and Ohio State, and Wisconsin. The entire college football world would say they all suck. All were overrated. And you know what? None of that would bother me. I stlll hope every damn BigTen team loses by 50 points. If we win and OSU loses we finish in the final top 4, even if all teams we played lost. Next year we will be judged on our 2017 record. Win em' all and we make the playoffs. That said, I am moving on to that Bad News thread. That's where all the action is.
If Penn St wins, they will be #3 in final poll and possible preseason #1. Other BIG bowls won't impact. OSU/Mich/Wisc wins will only strengthen cases
Don't you get serious headaches from beating your head against a brick wall like this?
We'll finish #5 at best if we win. The four teams in the playoff will all be ranked ahead of us and if Michigan wins they will be ahead of us too.
Temple is a conference champion. I would say that means they are a pretty good team. There is no impact of their loss today on Penn State.
Washington won't be ranked ahead of us if they get thumped by alabama and we beat USC. No way, no how.
If we win we will finish 3rd or 4th depending on who loses. The only team we won't jump is Bama if they lose in semifinals
Agreed. And same for loser of OSU-Clemson, especially a 2 loss OSU team. 11-2 OSU over 12-2 Penn St, with head to head loss? Not happening
3rd only if Washington gets hammered and Michigan loses. If Michigan wins they will jump us.
You're wrong. And that's not what you originally said. You said all 4 playoff teams will be ranked ahead of us even if we win.
Unless the "experts" don't want to make it look like they were wrong so they keep OSU ahead of us even if they lose. You guys have way more faith in the the college football world than I do. I guess all the screw jobs we've had doesn't stay in your memory.
Based on what? The fair treatment we've been given all these years? What's right and what's actually done are seldom the same thing in college football.
Based on PSU beating a higher ranked team in the bowl and being higher ranked going in
First year following college football? You really think that if the number 5 team in the country wins the Rose Bowl and two teams ahead of them lose, that they will stay at five or drop in the rankings? Okay.
I'm saying it's certainly possible. Like the champion of the best conference in football not making the playoff....no, that couldn't happen...oh wait, never mind.
I love when some posters can't have a discussion without throwing in an arrogant prick comment.
This interested me, so I looked at the bowl games. Big Ten is definitely giving up some conference ranks, especially to the Pac. Most interesting is that the 4 games vs ACC is about even. Think these are mostly accurate, but might have missed some things as ESPN definitely doesn't rank teams correctly, and some of the conferences' websites have them in the wrong order. For instance, the Big Ten website lists Nebraska above Iowa, despite head-to-head being first tie breaker between two teams of equal conference records, not overall record.
OSU v Clemson - Big 10 #2/3 v ACC #1
PSU v USC - Big Ten #1 v Pac-12 #3
Mich v FSU - Big Ten #3/4 v ACC #3/4
Wisconsin v W.Mich - lol, Do I need to explain this one?
Iowa v Florida - Big Ten #5 v SEC #2
Nebraska v Tennessee - Big Ten #6 v SEC #5
Northwestern v Pittsburgh - Big Ten #8 v ACC #7
Minnesota v Washington State - Big Ten #7 v Pac 12 #4
Indiana v Utah - Big Ten #9 v Pac 12 #6
Maryland v Boston College - Big Ten #10 v ACC #11/12
I'm still laughing at the idea of Michigan winning a bowl game, and things that happen more often .
It's a matcuhup of a #7vs#8, what does record have to do with anything. Unless your argument is that the middle of the ACC is better than the middle of the Big Ten? Don't get me wrong, absolutely every ranking system agrees with that statement, but I don't think that's the point you were hoping to make.
The reality is we beat a great team, beat 2 or 3 good teams and lost to a top 10 team and a top 20 team. I don't see the schedule as tough obviously. Schedule wasn't rated very high. But we did what we had to do. If we beat USC we are legit top 10. If we don't then we are top 15ish legit. Either way it's a great year and the Big10 can go F' themselves.
Pitt wasn't ahead of FSU, Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, UNC and Miami at a minimum. Pitt was the 7th-9th best team in the ACC. But if it helps your narrative if they are 3rd or 4th best in ACC I say go for it. Where do you rank BC in ACC. I say stick them at 5 and don't except no for an answer.
Conference ranking is not subjective, each conference has criteria for ranking teams. The subjectivity of those criteria is for a different argument. But Pitt, UNC, FSU and Miami were tied in conference record. When there are 3+ teams, the first tiebreaker is combined head-to-head record. Pitt was 0-2 against UNC and Miami, while the other 3 teams each had a win against the others. Therefore, Pitt is rank #7 in the ACC.
You got lost in a different area than what the point of my post was. I responded to a post that basically said Big10 crap teams were forced playing the better teams from other conferences. I don't feel like looking it up but I'm positive the the 6 teams I listed were ahead of Pitt in the ACC. Pitt was 5-3 I believe and lost to Miami, UNC and VaTech. I'm pretty sure most would say all three are better than Pitt. The other three from the other side are obviously better. So when the poster suggested our crap teams are facing top competition(in a nutshell) I disagree.
So far Maryland played a 6-6 BC team and Minni played and team with the same 8-4 record. Tomorrow Northwestern plays the 7th or 8th best team in the ACC. So why did you basically post the same exact thing as I posted? Thanks for the ranking intel I guess.
AWS: Back in the day, there was a TV commercial for pipe tobacco (of all things) that ended with the line "The chicks are back." I think it is somewhat descriptive of PSU. PSU is back, Back among the elite teams in college football, where it belongs. This season has established that, and next season will simply reaffirm it in spades. If the Lions beat USC, as I expect they will, they will have a very high preseason ranking next year. The combination of ending the season on a winning note and, even more importantly, returning a lot of starters, will ensure it
I hope so but I have doubts. I already heard one discussion on sports radio about next year's pre season top five and we weren't even mentioned. I could probably come up with next year's preseason top 10 that doesn't include us. College football, especially early on, can be summed up by saying same old, same old. I know preseason rankings don't mean all that much, but if you don't come into the year with a perception of being strong, it's that much harder to get there unless you go undefeated.
Well, if record doesn't mean anything than how did you come up with the rankings for each of these teams?
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