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Augusta National Golf Club Will Extend No. 13

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Per linked article, they finally consummated a deal with Augusta CC to acquire the required land. They must have paid them a king's ransom. But, what the hell, they have it! ;)
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/s...rchases-land-neighboring-augusta-country-club

Augusta National purchases land from neighboring Augusta Country Club
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Amen Corner is getting a little bigger.

Augusta National Golf Club has finally secured the last piece of its course’s border and made room for the possible expansion of its iconic 13th hole by acquiring land from its neighbor Augusta Country Club.

In a letter to the Augusta Country Club membership dated Aug. 4, club president Jay B. Forrester said “the Board of Governors is pleased to confirm that we have reached an agreement with our friends and neighbors at Augusta National Golf Club for its purchase of property at our northwest boundary.”

Masters Tournament and club chairman Billy Payne has not commented on the reported transaction – which has not yet been submitted in the public records. Officials at Augusta Country Club also declined to comment.

The sale, the amount of which was not disclosed in the letter to Augusta Country Club members, was recently finalized and approved by the Board after “many months of collaborative and cooperative dialogue” with Augusta National. Rumors about the protracted negotiations have been circulating since early 2016 when a Golfweek report claimed that a deal was nearly finished.

“Be assured this transaction will improve our golf course and will put Augusta Country Club in an even greater financial position for many years to come,” Forrester said in the letter.

The sale includes the land on the Augusta National side of Rae’s Creek where Augusta Country Club’s current par-5 eighth green is situated as well as the stretch situated high above Augusta National’s border where the current 392-yard par-4 ninth hole is located. Carts and golfers playing the ninth hole were often visible to patrons in Amen Corner through the trees during the Masters.

Augusta National will cover the costs of construction for portions of the renovated Donald Ross course across Rae’s Creek that is displaced by the land acquisition, both parties confirmed.

Forrester’s letter stated that a “portion of the eighth hole and a new ninth hole will be constructed at no cost to Augusta Country Club.”

“The conceptual design process is already underway,” the letter stated.

Augusta National’s plans for the 13th hole haven’t been disclosed. One of golf’s greatest risk-reward par-5 holes has become less of a risk as technology has made the 510-yard dogleg play short enough for players to routinely hit mid-irons into the green off the steeply banked fairway.

Payne addressed the speculation about lengthening the 13th hole when rumors of the potential land sale first circulated in 2016.

“As we do every year, and historically forever, we are always looking at options for numerous of our holes,” Payne said before the 2016 Masters. “We create plans looking into the future, when we believe that the shot value of certain second shots, principally, has been impacted by how far the ball is now traveling.

“As a consequence, 13 is one of those holes we are studying. We have made no decision whatsoever. Plans are underway to be considered, and as I said, that is one of many holes that we now have under consideration.”

The 13th hole, known as Azalea, has been lengthened three times. Five and seven yards were added to the back of the tee box in 1974-75, and 25 additional yards were added to the tee in 2002 after the National made a land exchange with Augusta Country Club. It’s currently listed at 510 yards, making it one of the shortest par-5s in major championship golf.

The purchase of Augusta Country Club’s ninth hole gives Augusta National room to move the 13th tee back 50 to 60 yards, making it a 560-yard hole that would again require a powerful drive to get far enough around the corner to invite taking on the green in two.

“We think there are multiple options where we could increase the difficulty of the hole and restore the shot values, only one of which deals with extending the length,” Payne said in 2016. “So we are in the middle of all of those studies, a lot of arithmetic, lot of design issues.”

Augusta National’s plans regarding the 13th may have accelerated after the ice storm in 2014 destroyed some of the towering mature pines that protect the azalea-covered left flank of the hole that runs along the tributary of Rae’s Creek. Bubba Watson was able to take advantage of the thinner canopy by hitting his drive on Sunday over and through the trees to leave himself with only a 140-yard wedge into the green en route to his second Masters victory.

Acquiring the land from its neighbor also gives Augusta National more control of its perimeter, allowing greater access for maintenance and tournament infrastructure as well as providing a wider cushion around the par-3 12th green to possibly clear more trees to allow better sunlight and air circulation.
 
Question regarding the PGA Championship this week.. saw the players were wearing shorts in practice round and were encouraged to do so... is this just for practice rounds or tourney as well?
I would say practice round only. Only the USGA allows shorts.
 
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My club (Skokie CC, Glencoe, IL) hosted The Western Amateur last week.....156 amateurs from 17 different countries.

As I did back in 2010 when we last hosted this event, I spent Tues spending nine hours of spotting on the right side of hole #1. The AVE drive this year vs seven years ago was approx 25 yds longer. Extrapolating that to the 13 par 4s and 5s, that's playing a course that's 325 yds shorter than in 2010. Throw in the 5 3s, the distance approaches 400 yds shorter. When almost the entire field can reach all the par 5s in two, it's hard for ANY course to defend itself unless Mother Nature kicks in with rain and / or high winds.....or ridiculously unfair / gimmicky pin locations.
 
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Heat not as much in play next year - PGA moves to May. Players back to March. I like both moves. Always liked the Players as part of the Florida swing. PGA to May will add more interest. After the Open is a bit late for me. I'm getting ready for some college football.
 
PGA Championship will move in 2019. Will be very early in the season for northern venues like Oak Hill or Whistling Straits. Smart moving the Fed Ex playoffs to August. The tour was getting trampled in the ratings going against football in September.

After the Ryder Cup last year, does anyone even care about the President's Cup? Thought about maybe heading up to Liberty National, but my experience on the shuttle system sucked for the Barclay's a few years ago.
 
My club (Skokie CC, Glencoe, IL) hosted The Western Amateur last week.....156 amateurs from 17 different countries.

As I did back in 2010 when we last hosted this event, I spent Tues spending nine hours of spotting on the right side of hole #1. The AVE drive this year vs seven years ago was approx 25 yds longer. Extrapolating that to the 13 par 4s and 5s, that's playing a course that's 325 yds shorter than in 2010. Throw in the 5 3s, the distance approaches 400 yds shorter. When almost the entire field can reach all the par 5s in two, it's hard for ANY course to defend itself unless Mother Nature kicks in with rain and / or high winds.....or ridiculously unfair / gimmicky pin locations.

Narrow the fairways and let the rough grow.
 
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Jack won the PGA at JDM (now Ballen Isles) in February. 1971 I think.

BTW, if I had my way, these guys would be playing reduced sized drivers and a freakin' Cayman ball.
 
Jack won the PGA at JDM (now Ballen Isles) in February. 1971 I think.

BTW, if I had my way, these guys would be playing reduced sized drivers and a freakin' Cayman ball.

Isn't a simpler solution just get rid of Par 5'S? Except for a few tough ones or ones that usually are into a prevailing wind??
 
Narrow the fairways and let the rough grow.


Believe me the rough was brutal, we had 7-8" of rain in the 2-3 weeks before the tournament and the course was actually closed for three days during that period and limited to 15 holes three other days.

I was a spotter where I was because of the rough. Truly amazing how these kids can go down and make such great contact on balls really sitting down.....their strength and their mechanics to dig the balls out was amazing to watch close-up.
 
Isn't a simpler solution just get rid of Par 5'S? Except for a few tough ones or ones that usually are into a prevailing wind??
That's not the way golf holes are designed. You don't hit long irons into greens designed to accept 3rd shots. If you had told Tillinghast or Ross that DJ was going to exist, then maybe they'd have done things differently. As it is, THEY are the ones that have it right, not the R&A/USGA.
 
PGA Championship will move in 2019. Will be very early in the season for northern venues like Oak Hill or Whistling Straits. Smart moving the Fed Ex playoffs to August. The tour was getting trampled in the ratings going against football in September.

After the Ryder Cup last year, does anyone even care about the President's Cup? Thought about maybe heading up to Liberty National, but my experience on the shuttle system sucked for the Barclay's a few years ago.
I always thought the President's Cup was too much.
 
That's not the way golf holes are designed. You don't hit long irons into greens designed to accept 3rd shots. If you had told Tillinghast or Ross that DJ was going to exist, then maybe they'd have done things differently. As it is, THEY are the ones that have it right, not the R&A/USGA.

There's less than zero chance of asking companies to produce inferior equipment because it makes courses too easy. More water, rough and sand then.
 
Easier to change ball specs than clubs. I suppose little chance of bringing back the Titleist Professional. :)

Longer rough, deeper bunkers. Bunker play is my favorite part of watching the Open. It often costs more there than here.
 
Seems like the 400 yard drive will be a regular occurrence on the pro tour in the not so distant future ...
The USGA and R&A allowed this to happen. They gave the power to the equipment manufacturers. The ball is ridiculous. The 460 degree driver head is obscene. There's no going back. As a result, I only watch a few tournaments a year.
 
The USGA and R&A allowed this to happen. They gave the power to the equipment manufacturers. The ball is ridiculous. The 460 degree driver head is obscene. There's no going back. As a result, I only watch a few tournaments a year.

I agree and factor today's golfers are built like NFL linebackers. Guys looking like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka will be the norm. 6-4 about 220 pounds of muscle. Throw in more advances in equipment and better physical training and I can see 400 yard drives and them being fairly accurate off the tee doing it
 
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I agree and factor today's golfers are built like NFL linebackers. Guys looking like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka will be the norm. 6-4 about 220 pounds of muscle. Throw in more advances in equipment and better physical training and I can see 400 yard drives and them being fairly accurate off the tee doing it
The thing is, you don't have to be built like a LB. Look at Rory, Justin Thomas and others. They create enough clubhead speed to keep up with the big boys. Spieth tried to add yardage off the tee and it screwed up his swing, so he went back to only hitting it 290 haha. They need to get castrated at Merion every week. I love to hear them bitch and moan.
 
Let's not fix the f*****g equipment. Let's just continue to ruin golf courses. Makes sense.
Couldn't they just change the compression of the ball so it doesn't fly as far? If I was king there would be a special ball for pro golfers so they would play the courses the way they were designed.
 
The issue is the drivers.

My wife used to be a pretty good golfer but quit playing a decade ago. we played, maybe, once or twice a year. Sunday, we bought her a new set of "woods". we went to the driving range and she was hitting the ball up to 200 yards. Her best before that was between 150 and 175. Here is what caused me to think about ten years of progression with drivers. I finally got her, half way through the session, to open her hips and whip the club to generate club head speed telling her to let the club do the work. Of course, this has been golf for decades. But the large drive head makes it so easy to drive the ball with minimal effort and so much more balance. You don't have to swing hard. I, with my large Wilson head and advanced age, was still driving the ball 250 consistently. And I have trouble getting up off the floor after stretching. I am sure I'd be consistently hitting it 300 if I was 28 years old...and I suck at golf.
 
Couldn't they just change the compression of the ball so it doesn't fly as far? If I was king there would be a special ball for pro golfers so they would play the courses the way they were designed.
Golf is the only sport I can think of in which the players furnish their own balls. OK, NFL teams do as well but they must be inflated to a certain standard (cough...Patriots..cough). Imagine if MLB teams could furnish the balls when they're playing defense. There would never be another ball hit out of the infield. How about a tennis player furnishing the balls when they're serving. Get ready for a whole lot of aces.

The golf sanctioning bodies could solve the problem by furnishing a standard ball to all players. The problem is the insane sponsorship money players would have to give up.
 
Believe me the rough was brutal, we had 7-8" of rain in the 2-3 weeks before the tournament and the course was actually closed for three days during that period and limited to 15 holes three other days.

I was a spotter where I was because of the rough. Truly amazing how these kids can go down and make such great contact on balls really sitting down.....their strength and their mechanics to dig the balls out was amazing to watch close-up.

I agree with you that at the top level they have an amazing ability to move a ball out of the rough. I guess it boils down to how deep the rough should be; (I suspect your course didn't have traditional US Open rough) Then you narrow the fairways and put the decision making on the players.

Now if a player can hit a fairway 25 yards wide often enough to justify chopping it out of the rough if he doesn't; then go for it.
 
I agree with you that at the top level they have an amazing ability to move a ball out of the rough. I guess it boils down to how deep the rough should be; (I suspect your course didn't have traditional US Open rough) Then you narrow the fairways and put the decision making on the players.

Now if a player can hit a fairway 25 yards wide often enough to justify chopping it out of the rough if he doesn't; then go for it.
The hybrid wedges to escape the rough are additional technologies that were no available until the last decade of players.
 
Couldn't they just change the compression of the ball so it doesn't fly as far? If I was king there would be a special ball for pro golfers so they would play the courses the way they were designed.

That's my preferred solution, decrease max initial velocity of the ball by 10%. Next would be to reduce driver size.

As A & L said earlier, look at these guys, they are big dudes. Very powerful and they train to swing the club extremely fast. USGA has to pull back on the technology, else the courses will be toast.
 
They aren't really that big. They are long and lanky. Dustin Johnson is not 220. He is 6'4" and 190 lbs. There are no PGA players built like WR's let alone LB's.

Everything is set up to score. The clubs, the ball, the course etc. and the only answer they try to apply is lengthening the course. They don't grow rough, narrow fairways, etc. Even the bunkers are such that it isn't even a "hazard" to the players.

I don't ever see them rolling back technology.
 
They aren't really that big. They are long and lanky. Dustin Johnson is not 220. He is 6'4" and 190 lbs. There are no PGA players built like WR's let alone LB's.

Everything is set up to score. The clubs, the ball, the course etc. and the only answer they try to apply is lengthening the course. They don't grow rough, narrow fairways, etc. Even the bunkers are such that it isn't even a "hazard" to the players.

I don't ever see them rolling back technology.

My point being you're not seeing many beer bellied guys walking the course anymore. Most new young members on the tour are very fit and in shape including hitting the weights hard. Been a lot of talk about how this has affected Rory's swing this year or lack of hitting the weights. I would expect to see them to continue to get more fit and stronger as the years pass and training becomes more specialized. I expect to see more of guys looking like Tiger than Fuzzy Zoeller walking around the links. Interesting in that players feel the longer you lengthen a course it only benefits the longer hitters. You take short and mid hitters out of it. Interviews I have seen all seem to say what most do on here grow the rough out and tighten the fairways. If you were to shorten the course then we would see a tighter leaderboard as it allows shorter hitters back in it. They are usually better iron hitters as well. I agree it likely won't happen as players like to see themselves -20 after 4 rounds not winner at even par. Hurts their egos ;)
 
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