Been very little discussion of Bartlett wrestling 1st match @49...
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You argue exactly like some of the most unlikeable lawyers I've had the misfortune to professionally encounter, and hopefully you won't take that as a compliment.
I certainly don't know what's best for Bartlett, my point, a minor one really, is only that any analysis about his placement in the lineup that doesn't at least account for the possibility that wrestling 149 at B1Gs and the NCAAs might not be the best thing for him in the long term, is lacking in perspective. Your vehement dismissal of that possibility suggests that it's not me who think he knows what's best for Bartlett.
No, contrary to another bullshit claim on your part - I've never said I know what's best for Beau in the longterm... have never even speculated about it, unlike you! - I'm assuming Cael knows what's best for Beau long-term and what his ability is to be nationally competitive @49... And Cael's opinion as reflected in his statements and actions (he's already entered Beau into 149 lb. Match - against Michigan last week), seem to disagree with yours.
First PAHURDLER and now Tikk two guy I really respect. Apparently, the Xanax has not worked. What is next on the progressive chart, tranquilizer dart?
Huh? Nobody's allowed to question their "opinions" (even when they conflict with Cael's opinions and actions) because YOU respect them? Talk about a drama-queen in need of a Xanax... [insert eyeroll].
First PAHURDLER, Tikk and now myself, two of those three guys I really respect. Apparently, the Xanax has not worked. What is next on the progressive chart, tranquilizer dart?
Phew....I’d say it’s pretty clear why there hasn’t been much discussion of BB @ 149.
This thread hasn’t been much of a discussion. :-/
This thread hasn’t been much of a discussion. :-/
Obviously Cael thinks he's got the potential to compete @49 or he wouldn't have said what he said about PSU's best line-up probably including Beau in the line-up.
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How do YOU know who Cael was "prodding“ to bump. Lets be honest, Cael is no fool, he knows, just like everyone else, which of the two would be a more natural fit at 149,and its not the one who was projected as a 133/141.
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How do YOU know who Cael was "prodding“ to bump. Lets be honest, Cael is no fool, he knows, just like everyone else, which of the two would be a more natural fit at 149,and its not the one who was projected as a 133/141.
Not to be argumentative as apparently I'm an amateur, but I always attribute that quote to Samuel Clemens. 🤪
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Look for Rutgers to bring guys out for extra matches on Monday. The Big 10 did ok it
Obviously, N. Lee has earned the right to choose his wt. class but what if you could wrestle, lets say the #1 guy at 149, just to see how you would fare. This is assuming that BB at 141 is a tough opponent for Nick in the room otherwise no sense even experimenting. Oh yeah, this could happen in a matter of days. If it works then N. Lee to 149 and BB at 141, if not then Lee back at 141.
Yeah I do think it was weird how more people seemed to be assuming he was talking about Bartlett. I personally think he was trying to be purposefully vague, so not sure who he was talking about.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them bump Lee to 149 to wrestle Sasso just for the dual purposes but not for NCAA's - since Bartlett might be able to beat D'Emilio/Echemendia at 141 (not that PSU would really be in danger of losing the dual if they have all their starters, but it could make it more of a bloodbath). However assuming that's just a 1-match deal for Lee, that would likely be conceding that Bartlett would not be the 149 for B10's unless he also wrestles an extra match or something.
Howard vs Shawver be a good one. Maybe a Janzer vs Beard or Bartlett vs Aragona, who hasn't wrestled this year . Bartlett could also see Angelo. Beard will need a match so if not Janzer probably Epperly.
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Plus, the notion that Cael sends cryptic indirect messages to his wrestlers during a presser about what weight he secretly thinks they should go seems like a bad take to begin with.
I'm confident there's enough mutual respect between the wrestlers and Cael (and his assistants) that they are able to have honest conversations about pathways to individual and team success. I seem to recall 1 or more of our past studs saying the team didn't pay much attention to individual rankings because if they wanted to know where they stood vis-a-vis the competition they could simply ask Casey.
I have a feeling that Bearclaw is tough matchup for Beau. I don't think many wrestlers want to go under Bearclaw. It looked like he is tough on top. His length might be trouble for Beau to finish moves from his feet.
I think Lee might go 149 next year opening a spot for Beau. Not sure how that plays out with VanNess.
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I read that as 4 cocktails. Which, in conjunction with that other stuff should work well.
Cael said something like “we need to get both these guys in the lineup”. My take on that is that he DOES want to win the title this year, be it a Covid* Free* year or not. That tells me that he EXPECTS one of these giys to make the jump. Now considering how a few “ in the know” guys on here insisted (and corrected me) a while back that Cael “makes no promise to anyone” then why is there this preconceived notion (at least here) that Lee has earned his right to choose where he goes??
Is that really how CAEL feels,or it just the sentiment here?
So guys here are THEORETICALLY stating : We are fine with losing the title to (Iowa), Im just thrilled to see (This guy) was able to choose where he wrestled while a (perfectly capable wrestler) had to jump him and wrestle 149.
5 years from now no one will remember WHY we lost that title, just that we DID.
He said we may potentially need both in the lineup.
Regardless, we need a quote to prove he wants to win the title?
Way too much hand wringing over 149. Moving Nick Lee up makes no sense, he is a title contender at 141; an undersized Bartlett isn't going to score any more points at 149 than the guys that are there now; If Iowa is healthy, even an additional low AA at one weight class will make no difference.
I think everyone debating the 149 issue is missing this:
1. Barraclough was not a 19-20 year old high school graduate.
2. He is a "late-bloomer" (as I was). The kid barely has any whiskers.
3. He will not be able to hold 149 for long.
The question we need to ask ourselves is; what if Barraclough was a held back high school senior right now winning everything as a 4-time Utah State Champ? He would look like a Cody Chittum right now if that were the case, and we would all be opining on whether he will sign with the good guys.
Well we've got him. And he has 4 years of eligibility left. He is a true leader type of individual. Guys like him are the ones that make a team, and can hold all the egos together. So we should respect what he brings to the table. If he is our guy that the coaches put on the mat, I support that 100%. If not, I'll support that decision the same way. I just think some folks on this board are overlooking what we have in Terrell. Like Sheryl Crow sang, "it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you have".
We may be posting in 5 years how great it was to have Barraclough in the blue and white, and how much we miss him being on the team.
1. Barraclough was not a 19-20 year old high school graduate.
2. He is a "late-bloomer" (as I was). The kid barely has any whiskers.
3. He will not be able to hold 149 for long.
The question we need to ask ourselves is; what if Barraclough was a held back high school senior right now winning everything as a 4-time Utah State Champ? He would look like a Cody Chittum right now if that were the case, and we would all be opining on whether he will sign with the good guys.
Well we've got him. And he has 4 years of eligibility left. He is a true leader type of individual. Guys like him are the ones that make a team, and can hold all the egos together. So we should respect what he brings to the table. If he is our guy that the coaches put on the mat, I support that 100%. If not, I'll support that decision the same way. I just think some folks on this board are overlooking what we have in Terrell. Like Sheryl Crow sang, "it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you have".
We may be posting in 5 years how great it was to have Barraclough in the blue and white, and how much we miss him being on the team.
Sheryl got that from this guy:
"I would hope you would support who we are, not who we are not."
"I would hope you would support who we are, not who we are not."
Also BODE (Beast of the East) and originally Get Real. All the same guy.
Yes dear, you are absolutely right..
Of all the things I brought up, funny how you chose what to question.
I love me some Bearclaw as much as the next guy, just going on how Cael said how we may POTENTIALLY need to get Lee AND BoBar in, no mention of Bearclaw. Oversight, or a clue on the pecking order?
I'm not picking favorites, sign me up for whoever scores the most at NCAA's.
I think if he were hinting at anything, it would be Lee at 149 and Beau at 141 as the strongest tourney lineup. I can't see how he would think Beau at 149 would score any more than Verk, Gardner, or TB at 149. Maybe get an early round bonus due to his offense? But that doesn't seem like a strategy to generate a big point difference.
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