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Bielema, "They're calling for White Out Energy, whatever the hell that means."

Cowbell Man said:
Silliest thing ever....that a whiteout needs to be official.
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Correct. If all the fans dress in white (maybe even bring their white pom poms) and bring that extra energy and noise that typically comes with a "white out," how is it not a "white out"?

It's about the experience for the fans (feeding off each other's energy), for the team (feeding off the fans' energy) and for the opposing team (suffering from that same energy.)

It's not about some "official" label.
 
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ram2020 said:
In all fairness, Brett was extremely complimentary of the fans, program, and tradition. He even mentioned Joe and Sue Paterno, something our board is even afraid to do. I'd really encourage everyone to listen to his entire press conference, this is faux outrage and makes us look silly.
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Outrage doesn’t mean what you apparently think it means.
 
step.eng69 said:
With or without fries?
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess - WITH ........

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The Spin Meister said:
Have they ever made a rule change like a 30 sec runoff for a penalty?
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The clock rule was changed immediately after that season since Bielema and a couple other coaches exposed the flaw. IIRC at the time the clock started to run as soon as the kicker contacted the ball on kickoffs (a change from prior seasons), and the change was to return back to the prior rule of not starting the clock until the receiver caught the ball. This eliminated the ability to do what Bielema did with the intentional offside penalties and killing some precious seconds without the opponent ever getting the ball and running a play.
 
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ram2020 said:
Please educate me and tell me how I better describe the fervor of penn state fans reaction throughout social media to Brett's edited and clipped press conference. Happy to use another word.
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I don’t know about social media but if you’re strictly talking about this board I would describe it more like giving him the business.
 
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From all the apparent hyperbolic outrage over this quote on X to creating a thread about it, are people really up in arms about this? I appreciate Bret and any opposition head coach who speaks well about our program, our tradition, and then who had a lovely anecdote about Joe sue and Franco, when most dont. As usual, people only heard the first part of what he said. Kudos to him, and the way he does his pressers, where he actually gives you content and actual content that isn't the same word salad every week.
 
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White out energy is great but how about just remembering this one, Franklin?
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All this talk about one line in a PC and no discussion of the game.

I think PSU is going to have all it can handle and then some. It will be a physical shock for them after playing an incredibly undersized opponent the week before. I don't understand the betting line at all.

This is a super dangerous game. First half PSU will be dealing with the shock of -- these guys are as big as us, as strong as us, almost as fast as us. Bielema, for all his big personality, is a good coach and has proven he can game plan against Franklin. Ill came pretty close to beating PSU last year.

They have a running game and a decent short passing game and PSU may have serious issues defending the run. Losing Winston is huge, he's one of PSU's best players on D. PSU may have issues at safety and LBer right now and you can bet Bielema is game planning for that.

And offensively, I'm just skeptical of all the talk about how much better the PSU O is under Kotelnicki. All the fancy motion and formations starts to mean little when you're going against teams with great athletes who disrupt things. Then all the complexity can actually get in your way. A lot of the stuff that Allar has been able to do, he's not going to be able to do against Big Ten defenses. He is not going to scramble much against B1G speed, he will get caught in the backfield a lot more and if he tries running in the open field and stretching for 1st downs he is going to get hit hard.

PSU had some issues at times getting receivers open against KENT STATE. PSU has not run the ball reliably against anybody.

I'm not saying the Nits are going to lose, but it just feels like a nailbiter to me.

On the other hand, last year at this time PSU really came out well prepared for their B1G opener and just whacked Iowa. If they are sharp and get a lead, Illinois is not really built to catch up, they're kind of like a Wisconsin type team. They get behind 2 TDs, their offense isn't built for that. So I'm hoping for one of those games where PSU just plays sharp early and gets the Beav into it.
 
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tboyer said:
All this talk about one line in a PC and no discussion of the game.

I think PSU is going to have all it can handle and then some. It will be a physical shock for them after playing an incredibly undersized opponent the week before. I don't understand the betting line at all.

This is a super dangerous game. First half PSU will be dealing with the shock of -- these guys are as big as us, as strong as us, almost as fast as us. Bielema, for all his big personality, is a good coach and has proven he can game plan against Franklin. Ill came pretty close to beating PSU last year.

They have a running game and a decent short passing game and PSU may have serious issues defending the run. Losing Winston is huge, he's one of PSU's best players on D. PSU may have issues at safety and LBer right now and you can bet Bielema is game planning for that.

And offensively, I'm just skeptical of all the talk about how much better the PSU O is under Kotelnicki. All the fancy motion and formations starts to mean little when you're going against teams with great athletes who disrupt things. Then all the complexity can actually get in your way. A lot of the stuff that Allar has been able to do, he's not going to be able to do against Big Ten defenses. He is not going to scramble much against B1G speed, he will get caught in the backfield a lot more and if he tries running in the open field and stretching for 1st downs he is going to get hit hard.

PSU had some issues at times getting receivers open against KENT STATE. PSU has not run the ball reliably against anybody.

I'm not saying the Nits are going to lose, but it just feels like a nailbiter to me.

On the other hand, last year at this time PSU really came out well prepared for their B1G opener and just whacked Iowa. If they are sharp and get a lead, Illinois is not really built to catch up, they're kind of like a Wisconsin type team. They get behind 2 TDs, their offense isn't built for that. So I'm hoping for one of those games where PSU just plays sharp early and gets the Beav into it.
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I share your concern, and a number of us here do, but it's interesting that the betting line, which seemed surprisingly high at 18 to open, hasn't moved. In fact, at a few books, it's even gone up by a half point to a point.

No way would I give 18 points on this game...which probably means it's in the bag for a blow-out. We need Lando to set us straight on this. To worry or not to worry...that is the question...
 
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tboyer said:
All this talk about one line in a PC and no discussion of the game.

I think PSU is going to have all it can handle and then some. It will be a physical shock for them after playing an incredibly undersized opponent the week before. I don't understand the betting line at all.

This is a super dangerous game. First half PSU will be dealing with the shock of -- these guys are as big as us, as strong as us, almost as fast as us. Bielema, for all his big personality, is a good coach and has proven he can game plan against Franklin. Ill came pretty close to beating PSU last year.

They have a running game and a decent short passing game and PSU may have serious issues defending the run. Losing Winston is huge, he's one of PSU's best players on D. PSU may have issues at safety and LBer right now and you can bet Bielema is game planning for that.

And offensively, I'm just skeptical of all the talk about how much better the PSU O is under Kotelnicki. All the fancy motion and formations starts to mean little when you're going against teams with great athletes who disrupt things. Then all the complexity can actually get in your way. A lot of the stuff that Allar has been able to do, he's not going to be able to do against Big Ten defenses. He is not going to scramble much against B1G speed, he will get caught in the backfield a lot more and if he tries running in the open field and stretching for 1st downs he is going to get hit hard.

PSU had some issues at times getting receivers open against KENT STATE. PSU has not run the ball reliably against anybody.

I'm not saying the Nits are going to lose, but it just feels like a nailbiter to me.

On the other hand, last year at this time PSU really came out well prepared for their B1G opener and just whacked Iowa. If they are sharp and get a lead, Illinois is not really built to catch up, they're kind of like a Wisconsin type team. They get behind 2 TDs, their offense isn't built for that. So I'm hoping for one of those games where PSU just plays sharp early and gets the Beav into it.
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Spot on. A huge game after a few weeks off.
The one advantage is that it is not a noon game, in which we suck. Being a night game helps a ton.
 
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tboyer said:
All this talk about one line in a PC and no discussion of the game.

I think PSU is going to have all it can handle and then some. It will be a physical shock for them after playing an incredibly undersized opponent the week before. I don't understand the betting line at all.

This is a super dangerous game. First half PSU will be dealing with the shock of -- these guys are as big as us, as strong as us, almost as fast as us. Bielema, for all his big personality, is a good coach and has proven he can game plan against Franklin. Ill came pretty close to beating PSU last year.

They have a running game and a decent short passing game and PSU may have serious issues defending the run. Losing Winston is huge, he's one of PSU's best players on D. PSU may have issues at safety and LBer right now and you can bet Bielema is game planning for that.

And offensively, I'm just skeptical of all the talk about how much better the PSU O is under Kotelnicki. All the fancy motion and formations starts to mean little when you're going against teams with great athletes who disrupt things. Then all the complexity can actually get in your way. A lot of the stuff that Allar has been able to do, he's not going to be able to do against Big Ten defenses. He is not going to scramble much against B1G speed, he will get caught in the backfield a lot more and if he tries running in the open field and stretching for 1st downs he is going to get hit hard.

PSU had some issues at times getting receivers open against KENT STATE. PSU has not run the ball reliably against anybody.

I'm not saying the Nits are going to lose, but it just feels like a nailbiter to me.

On the other hand, last year at this time PSU really came out well prepared for their B1G opener and just whacked Iowa. If they are sharp and get a lead, Illinois is not really built to catch up, they're kind of like a Wisconsin type team. They get behind 2 TDs, their offense isn't built for that. So I'm hoping for one of those games where PSU just plays sharp early and gets the Beav into it.
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Well they already played WVU and on the road no less. I would think that should have provided some good preparation for a team of Illinois’ caliber.
 
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tboyer said:
If they are sharp and get a lead, Illinois is not really built to catch up, they're kind of like a Wisconsin type team.
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This Illinois team is actually a pass more team than you are talking about. Yardage wise, they are around 65/35 passing to rushing. They have about 30 more rush attempts than passes, so they are probably running 55/45 to passing.

This isn't a Wisconsin type of offense. No resemblance to the '21 team that deployed 7 OL. They will play similar to Bowling Green did.

As far as comparisons, they beat Kansas late as did WVU. We thoroughly handled WVU.

Illinois isn't considered abundantly talented. They could give us a tough game or we could blow them out (hence the huge point spread). Too many emotional thoughts about Franklin and what games he's lost over a decade instead of rational thought over what we have.
 
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PSU4U said:
I'm pretty sure he can't see the tool or his bag.
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He should get some self respect and get in shape for God's sake you are football coach. You are representing a major university and you look like a fat slob who eats 5 McDonald's quarter pounders for dinner and lunch every day washed down with two extra large Dominos pizzas. Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. We better kick his fat, fat a## all over the field Saturday.
 
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Lion84 said:
Argh - I was at that game - miserable.
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That was Bielema looking at the Iowa film and realizing that without Clifford, PSU literally didn't have a QB who could run its offense. It was bizarre that a major college team wouldn't have a 2nd string QB at least somewhat prepared, but PSU didn't. Give him credit, it was a gutsy game plan and they squeezed a win out of it with an IL team that had very little talent at that point.
 
Jerry said:
I share your concern, and a number of us here do, but it's interesting that the betting line, which seemed surprisingly high at 18 to open, hasn't moved. In fact, at a few books, it's even gone up by a half point to a point.

No way would I give 18 points on this game...which probably means it's in the bag for a blow-out. We need Lando to set us straight on this. To worry or not to worry...that is the question...
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It's true, that much of a margin, the oddsmakers/bettors are seeing something I'm not seeing, and they do this for a living.
 
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lazydave841 said:
This Illinois team is actually a pass more team than you are talking about. Yardage wise, they are around 65/35 passing to rushing. They have about 30 more rush attempts than passes, so they are probably running 55/45 to passing.

This isn't a Wisconsin type of offense. No resemblance to the '21 team that deployed 7 OL. They will play similar to Bowling Green did.

As far as comparisons, they beat Kansas late as did WVU. We thoroughly handled WVU.

Illinois isn't considered abundantly talented. They could give us a tough game or we could blow them out (hence the huge point spread). Too many emotional thoughts about Franklin and what games he's lost over a decade instead of rational thought over what we have.
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Last year, IL kind of unmasked the problems in the PSU passing game and then that ended up being the team's Achilles heel. This year the receivers do seem quite a bit improved -- Wallace and Evans have great speed, and if they can beat single coverage and can force IL safeties to play back, that opens up so much for PSU.
 
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ryoder1 said:
He should get some self respect and get in shape for God's sake you are football coach. You are representing a major university and you look like a fat slob who eats 5 McDonald's quarter pounders for dinner and lunch every day washed down with two extra large Dominos pizzas. Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. We better kick his fat, fat a## all over the field Saturday.
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Ozempic is literally a lifesaver for people like that.
 
Jerry said:
I share your concern, and a number of us here do, but it's interesting that the betting line, which seemed surprisingly high at 18 to open, hasn't moved. In fact, at a few books, it's even gone up by a half point to a point.

No way would I give 18 points on this game...which probably means it's in the bag for a blow-out. We need Lando to set us straight on this. To worry or not to worry...that is the question...
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I wouldn't bet this spread but I'm not too worried about winning outright. I think we may even cover in the end though. I think it's going to be something like 34-20 good guys.
 
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So ram and scrivener both mentioned Bielema's discussion of Joe and Sue Paterno in their defense of him.

So sad. PSU will be much better off when the fanbase turns over and away from the creeping infection of the JoeBots.
 
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PurposePitch said:
So ram and scrivener both mentioned Bielema's discussion of Joe and Sue Paterno in their defense of him.

So sad. PSU will be much better off when the fanbase turns over and away from the creeping infection of the JoeBots.
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Huh? I'm a JoeBot because I respect Joe, Sue, and Franco -- the latter of which is probably the most revered and beloved PSU player of all time. Maybe I defended Bielema's statement b/c of how rare it is these days not only to have an active HC who would have had an interaction with Joe, but also without being asked, spoke so highly of our program, Joe, Sue and Franco. Unfortunately, that is rarefied air, especially for those outside the program. Frankly, it was so nice to hear an actual anecdote that seemed to mean something from a coach, rather than just the usual presser garbage.

I was also a BOB guy and still am -- dude helped save the program. A JoeBot wouldn't believe that. You made a blanket statement that all I see is everything through a JoeBot perspective. That is false. So, did Bret's statement about white out energy and Joe, Sue, and Franco get you riled up then -- that he outwardly had a ton of respect for them?
 
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tboyer said:
Last year, IL kind of unmasked the problems in the PSU passing game and then that ended up being the team's Achilles heel. This year the receivers do seem quite a bit improved -- Wallace and Evans have great speed, and if they can beat single coverage and can force IL safeties to play back, that opens up so much for PSU.
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I don't think Illinois has any DL the caliber of Newton or Randolph to play the same defense they did last year. They used a lot of zone against Nebraska, which could have been about confusing a true freshman QB, but they didn't stack the box and blitz with tight man.

I believe they will be a tougher opponent than WVU, but I'm unsure of how much tougher and we will have home field advantage this time.
 
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PurposePitch said:
So ram and scrivener both mentioned Bielema's discussion of Joe and Sue Paterno in their defense of him.

So sad. PSU will be much better off when the fanbase turns over and away from the creeping infection of the JoeBots.
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Kind of a stupid comment - so let’s never say that name again? Not a JoeBot but what yoy said was just dumb.
 
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