Lol I'm dealing with what the game is becoming while many here have false hope it isn't inevitable.
Acceptable for them isn't 10-2. Do you think anyone associated with Ohio State was happy going 10-2? Now with the expanded playoff it won't be as much of an issue but 10-2 isn't tolerated there.
I'm curious how long of a time frame you think the Sandusky scandal will negatively impact Penn State? 30 years? 50 years? Everyone who was alive in 2011 needs to be dead so about 90 years? Or maybe just forever, and forever??
So you think having severe NCAA restrictions and horrific publicity for five years had no affect on recruiting? No affect on our team depth? That none of that had any affect on the team or affected games played then?
Nor is it here. We just have to deal with reality. It's why idiotic fans on both sides are calling for their head coaches heads.
No, it was 100% due to depth, which we didn't have. 1 lbr goes down against USC, and the tables turned. Facts suck. 2016, we have no starting lbrs against Michigan, and get hammered. Gee, I wonder why. It's called depth and trying to rebuild a program. Then, we go on a run after lbr injuries. Also, we were missing a lbr against USC due to? Manny Bowen. Then, another goes down. We had one starting lbr.
How long, it's still ongoing. Talk to parents, which I've done for decades. As big a factor, no, but it's still there.
It sadly is tolerated here. We see 10-2 the last two years despite lacking quality wins. I'm happy we're beating who we're supposed to beat but now we have to start beating good teams occasionally
This is delusional. It's an excuse people use not the reason. Like most things in life, the parents won't state the real reason so they take the easy out. Sandusky has been a factor in recruiting since we got the full amount of scholarships back. Stop playing the victim here.
Exactly right. Nobody cares today about a scandal 13 years ago. I travel all of the B1G boards and it's very rarely brought up anymore. There's been several B1G schools that's had some type of scandal since then and probably a few SEC schools also but they're masters of covering their transgressions up.
I was just asking questions to understand your perspective better. Since you asked, I don't think the scandal is impacting us anymore. And if our fearless leader James Franklin goes 8-4 or even 9-3 with no playoff appearances for the next 3 years and tries to blame it on the scandal, Pat Kraft won't be buying it. Nor should he.
The sanctions definitely had an impact but that was 13 years ago.
Lol. Tell me a single time you've talked to any parent. I've talked to dozens of recruited kids over the years, and their parents. It's not delusional, nor is it an excuse. You are absolutely clueless in your knowledge of what this has done to the Penn State football program. This wasn't a damn fallacy, it happened.
13 years ago, and just magically went away? Really? This boards former owner specifically stated, Penn State wouldn't get another 4 or 5 star for 10 years.
I still remember the very day, the Ed O'Bannon case came down. I sent a message to Ryan...This changes everything. Guess what, it has. And here we are. And no, you're obviously, not on ignore.
First, the scandal broke Nov 2011, less than 13 yrs ago. The sanctions were announced in Aug 2012. They weren’t lifted until Jan if 2015, when recruiting was pretty much over. Then the trials of Spanier and others went in for several years. It’s disingenuous, dishonest, and misinformation to insinuate the scandals impact was thirteen years ago.
1. Nobody said it didn't have an impact at the time.
The Ed O'Bannon decision was good and who didn't know that was going to change everything?
