Bo Bassett announces @approx 8:30 pm Eastern

[HikeNatParks]

Bo digs Spencer, he’d be a much bigger fish at Iowa than PSU, and some say the NIL they’re gushing would break records, approaching what top college QBs get. I also believe Iowa would make collateral concessions to Bo’s siblings that PSU wouldn’t.
If true, the rumored exorbitant NIL reeks of the sad desperation of a wealthy, insecure man obsessed with athletic success he personally never enjoyed, and that his favorite team may not for years.
Dr. Phil out.

 

[PSUbluTX]

Odd that Bo said less than a week ago that he was going to wait until summer.

Plus we have the OSU v Iowa match in a few weeks. What could have changed his mind, to accelerate his announcement?

He attended the wipeout this past weekend, so there is that!

It’s impossible to know what’s in the mind of a teenager in making a decision like this, or what his private motivations are.

I recall seeing an interview with Spencer Lee where he said he actually chose Iowa as a middle schooler or younger and never seriously considered any other school recruiting him.

If memory serves, Lee said he saw a documentary about Dan Gable or something similar about Iowa wrestling and was smitten from that point forward. I’m pretty sure he even wore Iowa pajamas thru high school.

 

[KidDagger]

No matter who Bo picks, I hope he picks up an Iowa hat, looks at it for a second, and then throws it on the ground first. LOL.

There’s a much better chance he would do this to a PSU hat if he would even ever do that.. that’s a funny visual.. can u imagine he pulled a Ferrari and joined him? LOL

 

[mhs103]

Snyder's in Montoursville blows away all Iowa corn. Next.

True. Plus, Ricky Snyder is a PIAA champ and former PSU wrestler.

 

[mcpat]

Families of high-end recruits move to where their son is wrestling in college all the time. State College included. I’m not putting much stock in the distance home is from Univ Park.

 

[HAMMER167]

True. Plus, Ricky Snyder is a PIAA champ and former PSU wrestler.

Ricky Snyder pinned NCAA champ Scott Heaton in a Rec Hall dual meet

 

[Nitlion1986]

Do you think Van Ness as a senior will beat freshman BB?

Yep

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Just to be sure that this is not seen as sour grapes in the event Bassett selects another school,, I think that this whole process has been overblown and might be damaging to the psychology of a teenage boy.

Bassett is old for his grade; he'll be fine.

 

[Nitlion1986]

Now that is a "Paid Iowa Hater" hat.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Families of high-end recruits move to where their son is wrestling in college all the time. State College included. I’m not putting much stock in the distance home is from Univ Park.

What happens to that incredible basement workout facility? Is Johnstownsteel going to rent it for his extracurricular activities that require wrestling mats and a "clothing optional" basement with no windows? Fingers Crossed

 

[backdrft76]

A lot of drama taking place this morning over on 34, starting with Willie's comment about dishonesty. You can it read here if you want (just don't be surprised when you see Clorby in the middle of it defending a perceived IA commit):
https://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/hs-recruiting-news.115359/post-2779197

 

[Junglekitty]

"have a hard time believing anyone would turn down that kind of money. I also heard Oklahoma St offered a private jet for his parents to attend all competitions. "

I have a harder time believing they can offer such a largesse. And people being what they are, how do you think that plays with the rest of the team? How about the football and basketball teams that actually generate the big bucks. Can you see that 6-4 Quarterback with the rifle for an arm and a 4.5 40 saying -I want what the wrestler got? How about the 6-9 forward who hits threes with a swoosh of the net more often than not?

If and I say if such a deal is true; it should be public knowledge. Let's not forget, colleges have their grubby mitts in our pockets and that's especially true with state schools. Please don't tell me about how sports moneys are separate or I'm going to lecture you on fungibility and nobody wants that.

Last summer I took a CPE for my accounting license of NIL. Two things they said: NIL isn't "pay for play" and it's in a state of flux. I guess we know what changed.

Let the kid in Norman's parents' scrimping and saving-struggling to pay his or her tuition know about it so they can reign hell on their state politicians.

Maybe I'm ignorant on the subject, but from my understanding, a lot of NIL is privately funded, or considered "private funding." The colleges themselves aren't paying these individuals, but rather a NIL collective which is a fundraiser by generous private donors. If thats the case, there is no reason why it should, or has to be public knowledge. Selfishly, do I want to know what these kids are being paid, yes. Is it any of my business if it is indeed privately funded? No.

With all that being said, I could be completely wrong. If kids are being paid by the university, then yes, it should be public knowledge. But I would assume if they are on the payroll by the university wouldn't that make them employees? They then be required to offer benefits correct? I know school district employee's salaries are public information due to them being paid with tax payer money. Again, if I'm wrong in anything stated above I'm curious to learn differently.

 

[PSU Mike]

A lot of drama taking place this morning over on 34, starting with Willie's comment about dishonesty. You can it read here if you want (just don't be surprised when you see Clorby in the middle of it defending a perceived IA commit):
https://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/hs-recruiting-news.115359/post-2779197

The only place it would make sense for the athlete’s team to acknowledge the ballpark of an offer is in the context of negotiating others. And only a myopic, p!$$ed off loser in the bidding war would reveal it.

 

[dpd926]

I heard him start a "we are" chant.

I thought his voice would be deeper

 

[Ruby Tues]

Was there a set time? Or just sometime today?

 

[Cstroke]

I think flo said sometime later this evening, after his match.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

And what's left for the other highly touted recruits. At some point the money does run out.

Additionally, there are 10 weights, you can't just keep offering that kind of $$$ to the next recruit, and the next one, year-after-year.... especially when almost all wrestling programs operate at a slight deficit to revenues, so revenue-sharing is not a continuous annual source of funds of this amount as it is in football (i.e., this model is even less sustainable than it is for football). Even high net-worth boosters aren't going to throw this kind of $$$ at a multiple wrestlers year-after-year (keep in mind, one wrestler really changes nothing relative to the Team Championship, you would need to "buy" a whole team over time.). You are just throwing away $$$ year after year if you're a private individual (i.e., funds not coming from University revenue-sharing) and the monies spent are not even tax deductible contributions as they exceed gift exemption since they are going to what would be taxable income to the wrestler. Really makes no sense if it's an individual as it's just one recruit and they would have to do it over, and over again, year after year (not to mention it will undoubtably spark demands from existing wrestlers... or they'll go elsewhere to create a bidding war). No way is a private individual doing this over time.

 

[El-Jefe]

A lot of drama taking place this morning over on 34, starting with Willie's comment about dishonesty. You can it read here if you want (just don't be surprised when you see Clorby in the middle of it defending a perceived IA commit):
https://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/hs-recruiting-news.115359/post-2779197

That was quite a read.

I've twice been at Beaver Stadium when the goalposts got torn down, walked down University Drive to College Avenue, and dumped on the Old Main Lawn. Next time the students should just hire Corby.

 

[PSUcup1]

Who exactly is “west2east”?

Thx

 

[billrag]

I've previously stated and still feel that I don't really care too much where Bassett ends up, but if you believe the stuff that's being tossed around (and I believe that it's likely MOSTLY true), then you have to wonder how these 2 for 1 deals can happen. So Melvin Miller has to go to Iowa (if the reports are true)? What if he doesn't want to? What if he finds out before it's his turn that Iowa sucks? Like, say for instance that Bo gets there with his sack of money and doesn't win a natty during his true freshman year? Or he ends up getting hurt or gets totally disenchanted with how the wrestling room there operates?

The whole thing is frankly pretty silly from my perspective, although I'm admittedly an NIL hater and convinced that it will ruin most or all of college sports.

 

[billrag]

Who exactly is “west2east”?

Thx

I'm not sure and someone here will likely answer, but he does occasionally drop in here and he has had "insider info" in the past.

 

[Callthestall]

I didn't read all the new post , but he was on video chat and said the money was not as much as was being reported. He commented the NIL money from the schools were very comparable.
I still say Okie State .
Does he give up his last year to move to his choice. ?

 

[PSUcup1]

I'm not sure and someone here will likely answer, but he does occasionally drop in here and he has had "insider info" in the past.

Yes. I have seen him post here before

 

[El-Jefe]

Who exactly is “west2east”?

Thx

Corby Van, who's from Illinois. He lived in NJ for a while and was Willie's podcast sidekick then.

He and Willie had an ugly falling out, but apparently made up a couple years ago.

He knows a lot about the sport, but is a Midwest Mafia made man.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Maybe I'm ignorant on the subject, but from my understanding, a lot of NIL is privately funded, or considered "private funding." The colleges themselves aren't paying these individuals, but rather a NIL collective which is a fundraiser by generous private donors. If thats the case, there is no reason why it should, or has to be public knowledge. Selfishly, do I want to know what these kids are being paid, yes. Is it any of my business if it is indeed privately funded? No.

With all that being said, I could be completely wrong. If kids are being paid by the university, then yes, it should be public knowledge. But I would assume if they are on the payroll by the university wouldn't that make them employees? They then be required to offer benefits correct? I know school district employee's salaries are public information due to them being paid with tax payer money. Again, if I'm wrong in anything stated above I'm curious to learn differently.

If there's "an offer" and an exchange; how does anybody fix a number in advance. Let's assume some deep-pockets offers a king's ransom and kicks the bucket? Then what happens? Is the University on the hook for the $$?

Echoes of when PSU went to protect Paterno's salary, and it was more than the Governor's but not quite what we might have thought. Paterno did NIL before there was NIL. You can go online and see every state employee's salary-including clerks and custodial workers.

f you are paying or arranging to have paid some kid to come to go to place that accepts taxpayer money-it is the taxpayer's RTK.

 

[El-Jefe]

If there's "an offer" and an exchange; how does anybody fix a number in advance. Let's assume some deep-pockets offers a king's ransom and kicks the bucket? Then what happens? Is the University on the hook for the $$?

Echoes of when PSU went to protect Paterno's salary, and it was more than the Governor's but not quite what we might have thought. Paterno did NIL before there was NIL. You can go online and see every state employee's salary-including clerks and custodial workers.

f you are paying or arranging to have paid some kid to come to go to place that accepts taxpayer money-it is the taxpayer's RTK.

No it's not. Taxpayers only have the right to know about direct university expenditures.

Arguably taxpayers have a right to know risk exposure, but this will only ever be at a roll-up level. Risk for loss of athletes' external funding will never be disclosed by any school at the single athlete level.

Taxpayers were not entitled to know how much Joe made for hawking Milano bread either.

 

[AgSurfer]

If you are paying or arranging to have paid some kid to come to go to place that accepts taxpayer money-it is the taxpayer's RTK.

I don't know if there is any legal requirement for disclosure, but the kid who accepts the NIL money will still be using taxpayer supported facilities, coaching AND education. Plus the fact that he is there means someone else won't be due to roster limits as well as school admittance limits. I think the taxpayers do have a right to know.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Snyder's in Montoursville blows away all Iowa corn. Next.

Hummelstown sweet corn in Ebensburg is the best out my way.

 

[Cstroke]

Corby Van, who's from Illinois. He lived in NJ for a while and was Willie's podcast sidekick then.

He and Willie had an ugly falling out, but apparently made up a couple years ago.

He knows a lot about the sport, but is a Midwest Mafia made man.

Corby is mostly in the know and can be likeable. But he's also a dick.
I think he's banned from here.
He's a big Iowa supporter and if I'm not mistaken has made a few Ped state comments.
He's the one who got flash burned with Willie when they were using the Uv lights to disinfect the mats during covid

 

[Cstroke]

Hummelstown sweet corn in Ebensburg is the best out my way.

Ebensburg smells like Altoona.
Insert kiss me where it stinks joke, so I took her to Ebensburg.

 

[El-Jefe]

Corby is mostly in the know and can be likeable. But he's also a dick.
I think he's banned from here.
He's a big Iowa supporter and if I'm not mistaken has made a few Ped state comments.
He's the one who got flash burned with Willie when they were using the Uv lights to disinfect the mats during covid

I don't recall Sandusky references, but he was mostly complimentary or at least matter of fact about PSU as Willie's #2.

After moving back to the midwest, he does tend to pretzel himself where Iowa is concerned.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Think I'll go to the McCort match tonight. Gonna wear this to voice my displeasure....

 

[El-Jefe]

I don't know if there is any legal requirement for disclosure, but the kid who accepts the NIL money will still be using taxpayer supported facilities, coaching AND education. Plus the fact that he is there means someone else won't be due to roster limits as well as school admittance limits. I think the taxpayers do have a right to know.

NIL is a non-sequitur here. The same athlete would have the same access/facility/personnel cost if he walked on with $0 NIL.

In terms of displacing other applicants, again NIL isn't the issue. The school was accepting some other athlete in the same sport if not him. The real disclosure is applicants who were denied in favor of that athlete -- this will never be public, unless discovery in a lawsuit.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

No it's not. Taxpayers only have the right to know about direct university expenditures.

Arguably taxpayers have a right to know risk exposure, but this will only ever be at a roll-up level. Risk for loss of athletes' external funding will never be disclosed by any school at the single athlete level.

Taxpayers were not entitled to know how much Joe made for hawking Milano bread either.

Second warning on fungible chief.

The University wasn't a party to Joe's pitching Milano bread-however if Milano said "hey, we'll endow the football coach's salary-different story".

If a publicly funded University stands to benefit from a transaction, we should know.

Just as we should know:

Feldhaus
Heather
Assoc Provost & Dean Graduate Education
$215,135

Heather Feldhaus

Dr. Heather Feldhaus currently serves as Associate Provost for Faculty Affairs and Dean of Graduate Studies and professor of Sociology.Courses Taught – Introductory Sociology, Sociology of Race and Ethnicity, Research Methods, Sociology of Work Areas of Research Interest - Applied Sociology...

www.commonwealthu.edu

Employee Salaries

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Think I'll go to the McCort match tonight. Gonna wear this to voice my displeasure....

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That is awesome.

 

[El-Jefe]

Think I'll go to the McCort match tonight. Gonna wear this to voice my displeasure....

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You should find 10 gold rings (from CVS, Cracker Jack, doesn't matter) and flash them openly whenever in their sight.

 

[baccafarmer]

Was there a set time? Or just sometime today?

Reminds me of The Curse of Oak Island. One of the all time teases of college wrestling. My bet is that he milks it for another season.

 

[El-Jefe]

Second warning on fungible chief.

The University wasn't a party to Joe's pitching Milano bread-however if Milano said "hey, we'll endow the football coach's salary-different story".

If a publicly funded University stands to benefit from a transaction, we should know.

Just as we should know:

Feldhaus
Heather
Assoc Provost & Dean Graduate Education
$215,135

Heather Feldhaus

Dr. Heather Feldhaus currently serves as Associate Provost for Faculty Affairs and Dean of Graduate Studies and professor of Sociology.Courses Taught – Introductory Sociology, Sociology of Race and Ethnicity, Research Methods, Sociology of Work Areas of Research Interest - Applied Sociology...

www.commonwealthu.edu

Employee Salaries

OK, so go ahead and dig up the external funding for the coaches.

Good luck!

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

I don't know if there is any legal requirement for disclosure, but the kid who accepts the NIL money will still be using taxpayer supported facilities, coaching AND education. Plus the fact that he is there means someone else won't be due to roster limits as well as school admittance limits. I think the taxpayers do have a right to know.

Probably no requirement, yet. The NCAA is a private cartel making rules for public universities and legislators cower to colleges.

Should be though.

 

[Ruby Tues]

Reminds me of The Curse of Oak Island. One of the all time teases of college wrestling. My bet is that he milks it for another season.

This right here....it maybe the troll of all time roll jobs.....