Bo Nickal v. Iowa

[Ja1339]

In his last three matches against Iowa wrestlers, Bo Nickal has pinned his three opponents in a total of 2:29.

2017 Iowa dual, pin of Sammie Brooks 0:38 seconds
2017 NCAA Semifinals, pin of Sammie Brooks, 1:01
2018 Iowa dual, pin of Mitch Bowman, 0:50

Three pins in less time than one 1st period. I'd say he has their number, let's hope Bo faces an Iowa wrestler in both B10s and NCAAs this year.

 

[diggerpup]

In his last three matches against Iowa wrestlers, Bo Nickal has pinned his three opponents in a total of 2:29.

2017 Iowa dual, pin of Sammie Brooks 0:38 seconds
2017 NCAA Semifinals, pin of Sammie Brooks, 1:01
2018 Iowa dual, pin of Mitch Bowman, 0:50

Three pins in less time than one 1st period. I'd say he has their number, let's hope Bo faces an Iowa wrestler in both B10s and NCAAs this year.

Those are Nickal’s only three ever matches vs Hawkeyes.

Scanning his results from his 2015-2016 RS freshman year, Bo didn’t face a Hawkeye all season.

Bo should keep that up. What a career accomplish - pin every Hawkeye you ever face in the 1st.

 

[AgSurfer]

In his last three matches against Iowa wrestlers, Bo Nickal has pinned his three opponents in a total of 2:29.

2017 Iowa dual, pin of Sammie Brooks 0:38 seconds
2017 NCAA Semifinals, pin of Sammie Brooks, 1:01
2018 Iowa dual, pin of Mitch Bowman, 0:50

Three pins in less time than one 1st period. I'd say he has their number, let's hope Bo faces an Iowa wrestler in both B10s and NCAAs this year.

Are you sure the time for the NCAA semifinals pin is correct? My recollection is that it was also under 1 minute. Something like 45 seconds.

I would love to know what went through the Hawk fans minds after that 2nd pin. They probably had discounted the first as Brooks just "getting caught." But after the second, there seemed to be a pattern developing. Number 3 pretty much iced it.

 

[Ja1339]

Are you sure the time for the NCAA semifinals pin is correct? My recollection is that it was also under 1 minute. Something like 45 seconds.

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I was thinking the same thing...got the times from gopsusports.com site.

 

[Ja1339]

I would love to know what went through the Hawk fans minds after that 2nd pin. They probably had discounted the first as Brooks just "getting caught." But after the second, there seemed to be a pattern developing. Number 3 pretty much iced it.

Perhaps that explains their irrational desire to bring in PD3.

 

[Ja1339]

Those are Nickal’s only three ever matches vs Hawkeyes.

Scanning his results from his 2015-2016 RS freshman year, Bo didn’t face a Hawkeye all season.

Bo should keep that up. What a career accomplish - pin every Hawkeye you ever face in the 1st.

Forgot we don't get them every year.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

In his last three matches against Iowa wrestlers, Bo Nickal has pinned his three opponents in a total of 2:29.

2017 Iowa dual, pin of Sammie Brooks 0:38 seconds
2017 NCAA Semifinals, pin of Sammie Brooks, 1:01
2018 Iowa dual, pin of Mitch Bowman, 0:50

Three pins in less time than one 1st period. I'd say he has their number, let's hope Bo faces an Iowa wrestler in both B10s and NCAAs this year.

Bowman was plain outclassed. And if I remember correctly Brooks wrestled him relatively well both times right up to the point where Brooks allowed himself to be pulled into a cradle or a similar move on both occasions. Sammy was a quality wrestler, but more times than not when he lost a match because he would do what it looked like Joseph did the other night (put himself into a situation that led to his demise). Sammy was famous for it (used to drive me insane), and for PSU's sake I'm hopeful that Joseph learned a good lesson the other night and won't go there again with someone who has his the same level of strength. That being said, Bo was clearly the better talent in all three matches, but Sammy helped PSU get a few extra points by being pulled into a funky situation with Bo, who along with Nolf are the kings of funky..

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Forgot we don't get them every year.

And I think that's an issue. I wish there was a way we could ensure the major programs (PSU, tOSU, MI, IA, etc.) faced each other in duals every year. That's clearly what the fans want to see. I know it's not possible, but it sure would be nice. Or perhaps the B10 needs to form an alliance with one of the holiday tournaments and pull all of them into that, although I do enjoy watching the B10 grapple with the other conferences' powerhouses during those tourneys. In the end I'd like to see more intense duals and matches within duals, as was the case in the tOSU vs. PSU meet. Blowouts are boring even if it's your team who's kicking a$$.

 

[JohnBasedow]

I saw this thread title and I started getting PTSD.

 

[a_mshaffer]

And I think that's an issue. I wish there was a way we could ensure the major programs (PSU, tOSU, MI, IA, etc.) faced each other in duals every year. That's clearly what the fans want to see. I know it's not possible, but it sure would be nice. Or perhaps the B10 needs to form an alliance with one of the holiday tournaments and pull all of them into that, although I do enjoy watching the B10 grapple with the other conferences' powerhouses during those tourneys. In the end I'd like to see more intense duals and matches within duals, as was the case in the tOSU vs. PSU meet. Blowouts are boring even if it's your team who's kicking a$$.

true, but we need to check with TanTom to see how he would handle it...

 

[royboy]

Bowman was plain outclassed. And if I remember correctly Brooks wrestled him relatively well both times right up to the point where Brooks allowed himself to be pulled into a cradle or a similar move on both occasions. Sammy was a quality wrestler, but more times than not when he lost a match because he would do what it looked like Joseph did the other night (put himself into a situation that led to his demise). Sammy was famous for it (used to drive me insane), and for PSU's sake I'm hopeful that Joseph learned a good lesson the other night and won't go there again with someone who has his the same level of strength. That being said, Bo was clearly the better talent in all three matches, but Sammy helped PSU get a few extra points by being pulled into a funky situation with Bo, who along with Nolf are the kings of funky..

Well, you are gracious about Bo's talent, but I've got to laugh about the comment I highlighted. If the first match lasted 38 seconds, and the second match lasted 61 seconds, just how much "relatively well" wrestling did Brooks do?

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Well, you are gracious about Bo's talent, but I've got to laugh about the comment I highlighted. If the first match lasted 38 seconds, and the second match lasted 61 seconds, just how much "relatively well" wrestling did Brooks do?

You are correct. I remember the 36 second one when it went from a shot by Sammy to a spladle for a pin, but I was thinking the 1:03 match was Sammy's bonehead move when in fact it was Bo in for a single and turned it into a cradle for the pin. My biggest issue with Sammy vs. Bo matches was that it seemed Sammy was never ready for the funk that is Bo Nickal, and he (Sammy) got sucked into pin moves each time.

 

[James P. Whitters III]

Brooks wrestled fearless and it made him a perfect opponent for Bo. I would still take 10 guys like Brooks on my team- he was a very hard nosed fun to watch wrestler.

 

[nitlion6]

Bowman was plain outclassed. And if I remember correctly Brooks wrestled him relatively well both times right up to the point where Brooks allowed himself to be pulled into a cradle or a similar move on both occasions. Sammy was a quality wrestler, but more times than not when he lost a match because he would do what it looked like Joseph did the other night (put himself into a situation that led to his demise). Sammy was famous for it (used to drive me insane), and for PSU's sake I'm hopeful that Joseph learned a good lesson the other night and won't go there again with someone who has his the same level of strength. That being said, Bo was clearly the better talent in all three matches, but Sammy helped PSU get a few extra points by being pulled into a funky situation with Bo, who along with Nolf are the kings of funky..

The dual last year Sammy shot in on a beautiful single leg. Bo ended up pinning Sammy with a spladle. At nationals Sammy went upper body with Bo and got tossed.

 

[nitlion6]

Brooks wrestled fearless and it made him a perfect opponent for Bo. I would still take 10 guys like Brooks on my team- he was a very hard nosed fun to watch wrestler.

I loved Sammy Brooks as a wrestler. Hard nosed, get after it and never ever slow down or quit.

 

[nitlion6]

And I think that's an issue. I wish there was a way we could ensure the major programs (PSU, tOSU, MI, IA, etc.) faced each other in duals every year. That's clearly what the fans want to see. I know it's not possible, but it sure would be nice. Or perhaps the B10 needs to form an alliance with one of the holiday tournaments and pull all of them into that, although I do enjoy watching the B10 grapple with the other conferences' powerhouses during those tourneys. In the end I'd like to see more intense duals and matches within duals, as was the case in the tOSU vs. PSU meet. Blowouts are boring even if it's your team who's kicking a$$.

Penn State and Iowa should wrestle every single year. Hopefully they can work it out this next year. We will have to wait and see if Tom is willing to reciprocate Cael's off schedule trip to Iowa City.

 

[diggerpup]

Penn State and Iowa should wrestle every single year. Hopefully they can work it oit this next year. We will have to wait and see if Tom is willing to reciprocate Cael's off schedule trip to Iowa City.

That would be phenomenal ... and definitely not how Tom Ryan would handle it.

 

[NoVa Lion]

I was thinking the same thing...got the times from gopsusports.com site.

NCAA brackets say 1:02.

http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/gametool/brackets/wrestling_d1_2017.pdf

 

[nerfstate]

I've really enjoyed watching Brooks--especially every time he broke Martin's will to wrestle. Well, and those two times against Bo were fun too. Gotta love a guy who digs double unders in less than a minute against Bo Nickal in a National Semi...

 

[Lyons212]

Well, you are gracious about Bo's talent, but I've got to laugh about the comment I highlighted. If the first match lasted 38 seconds, and the second match lasted 61 seconds, just how much "relatively well" wrestling did Brooks do?

He shook hands well.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I've really enjoyed watching Brooks--especially every time he broke Martin's will to wrestle. Well, and those two times against Bo were fun too. Gotta love a guy who digs double unders in less than a minute against Bo Nickal in a National Semi...

Martin wanted no part of Brooks. Brooks bullied him all over the mat

 

[jrd23psu]

You are correct. I remember the 36 second one when it went from a shot by Sammy to a spladle for a pin, but I was thinking the 1:03 match was Sammy's bonehead move when in fact it was Bo in for a single and turned it into a cradle for the pin. My biggest issue with Sammy vs. Bo matches was that it seemed Sammy was never ready for the funk that is Bo Nickal, and he (Sammy) got sucked into pin moves each time.

I think you might be remembering a different match. Bo never cradled Sammy. The dual is when Sammy shot and Bo spladled him for the fall, which you are correct about. In the NCAA semis, Bo threw Sammy to his back with double overs for the fall. It wasn't off of a shot or anything.

Sammy was very good, but sometimes it comes down to bad matchups. Sammy walloped Martin in the finals of B1Gs last year, the same tournament where Myles beat Bo in the semis. Sammy just brutalized him physically.

Bo, for whatever reason, was just a bad matchup for Sammy.

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

I think you might be remembering a different match. Bo never cradled Sammy. The dual is when Sammy shot and Bo spladled him for the fall, which you are correct about. In the NCAA semis, Bo threw Sammy to his back with double overs for the fall. It wasn't off of a shot or anything.

Sammy was very good, but sometimes it comes down to bad matchups. Sammy walloped Martin in the finals of B1Gs last year, the same tournament where Myles beat Bo in the semis. Sammy just brutalized him physically.

Bo, for whatever reason, was just a bad matchup for Sammy.

You got that right. But truth be told Bo is just a bad match up for everyone, and though Myles had his number a couple times, I don't see that happening again either....

 

[James P. Whitters III]

Off subject a bit, but my Hawkeye loving dad is the biggest Sammy Brooks fan. I had Sammy sign a poster for my dad and he is a very gracious young man with such a great smile. Bo is a guy who really punishes over aggressive wrestlers, so Sammy was in trouble from the start when the two matched up. Martin doesn't have the same skill set as Bo, so Sammy imposed his will and wore Martin out. Bowman is not Brooks, but I like how he engages even when outmatched as well. I guess I look at it as Bo being that special instead of a shortcoming on the opponents part.

 

[SRATH]

I loved Sammy Brooks as a wrestler. Hard nosed, get after it and never ever slow down or quit.

Agreed
Plus his mullet comments after winning a BT title is immortal comedy.

 

[tomsc]

I loved Sammy Brooks as a wrestler. Hard nosed, get after it and never ever slow down or quit.

One things's for sure--Brooks sure had Martin's number!!

 

[pawrest01]

My personal opinion is that Sammy actually wrestled Bo and didn't do the common stiff arm to retreat method that most guys do against him. I loved Brooks as a competitor and would take him over a guy that wrestles to only lose by a point every time they face someone better than them. Sammy went toe-to-toe and that's why he got pinned. He could have easily retreated and kept the matches close but he wanted to let it fly and to me that's way better than essentially conceding defeat or hoping to get lucky with a last second shot after you stall the whole match. Just MHO

 

[JohnBasedow]

Penn State and Iowa should wrestle every single year. Hopefully they can work it out this next year. We will have to wait and see if Tom is willing to reciprocate Cael's off schedule trip to Iowa City.

That would be great. Too bad the PSU/Iowa football game wasn’t a couple weeks later, Beaver Stadium would make a nice venue and would draw a decent crowd I presume.

 

[Ja1339]

Wanting to see PSU and Iowa wrestle each other every year is one topic both fan bases appear to be in complete agreement on.

 

[papa_ed]

When the conference doesn't schedule Iowa vs. PSU, they're stealing from the fan-base, IMHO. Iowa may not be on par with the old days, but they always bring it.

 

[RoarLions1]

Count me among those that wouldn't mind seeing Iowa vs PSU every year. I expect nitlion will jump on this, though I think it needs to be said...

PSU's rivalry team is Ohio State, Iowa's is Minnesota. That means they are the only team on the schedule every year. The other 12 teams are all two-out-of-every-three-years. How many aren't ok with that? My opinion...I like having tOSU every year.

Big picture...PSU has 9 conference duals, 2 tournaments, and a Lehigh Dual (wrestled them every year since the early 1930's), leaving only 4 competition dates to schedule. Let's hope the two schools can get together, challenging as it is, and make the dual happen.

 

[Ja1339]

Count me among those that wouldn't mind seeing Iowa vs PSU every year. I expect nitlion will jump on this, though I think it needs to be said...

PSU's rivalry team is Ohio State, Iowa's is Minnesota. That means they are the only team on the schedule every year. The other 12 teams are all two-out-of-every-three-years. How many aren't ok with that? My opinion...I like having tOSU every year.

Big picture...PSU has 9 conference duals, 2 tournaments, and a Lehigh Dual (wrestled them every year since the early 1930's), leaving only 4 competition dates to schedule. Let's hope the two schools can get together, challenging as it is, and make the dual happen.

Thank you for that explanation. I agree about tOSU. Any chance B10 would ever change to have 2 conference teams on the schedule ever year?

 

[dunkej01]

Count me among those that wouldn't mind seeing Iowa vs PSU every year. I expect nitlion will jump on this, though I think it needs to be said...

PSU's rivalry team is Ohio State, Iowa's is Minnesota. That means they are the only team on the schedule every year. The other 12 teams are all two-out-of-every-three-years. How many aren't ok with that? My opinion...I like having tOSU every year.

Big picture...PSU has 9 conference duals, 2 tournaments, and a Lehigh Dual (wrestled them every year since the early 1930's), leaving only 4 competition dates to schedule. Let's hope the two schools can get together, challenging as it is, and make the dual happen.

Who decides the rivalry teams? I guess Im asking does the individual schools have a say in that? Furthermore can a school change it?

Having 2 rivalry school seems like it should be doable and wouldnt mess things up schedule wise.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Who decides the rivalry teams? I guess Im asking does the individual schools have a say in that? Furthermore can a school change it?

Having 2 rivalry school seems like it should be doable and wouldnt mess things up schedule wise.

It would make a HUGE mess of the schedule. Right now with 9 conference duals it works out perfectly that every team wrestles 1 team every year and all of the other schools 2 out of every 3 years.

As to the rivalry schools I don't know for sure but they are the same for wrestling and women's volleyball and are what makes most sense geographically.

 

[RoarLions1]

Who decides the rivalry teams? I guess Im asking does the individual schools have a say in that? Furthermore can a school change it?

Having 2 rivalry school seems like it should be doable and wouldnt mess things up schedule wise.

It was set up with geography in mind...

Maryland / Rutgers
PSU / tOSU
Iowa / Minny
Michigan / MSU
NU / Illinois
Purdue / Indiana
Wisconsin / Nebraska

Doubt it will change as long as there's 9 conference duals, as the "system" works well for a 14-team conference. Imo, won't see anything change unless they go to 10 conference duals. Remember, the move to 9 was fairly recent.

 

[nitlion6]

One things's for sure--Brooks sure had Martin's number!!

It was fun to watch. Someone above made reference to Sammy simply bullied Myles into submission.

 

[nitlion6]

Count me among those that wouldn't mind seeing Iowa vs PSU every year. I expect nitlion will jump on this, though I think it needs to be said...

PSU's rivalry team is Ohio State, Iowa's is Minnesota. That means they are the only team on the schedule every year. The other 12 teams are all two-out-of-every-three-years. How many aren't ok with that? My opinion...I like having tOSU every year.

Big picture...PSU has 9 conference duals, 2 tournaments, and a Lehigh Dual (wrestled them every year since the early 1930's), leaving only 4 competition dates to schedule. Let's hope the two schools can get together, challenging as it is, and make the dual happen.

You mean the reciprocated visit?
Tip-toed in.

 

[tomsc]

It was fun to watch. Someone above made reference to Sammy simply bullied Myles into submission.

Brooks manhandled him in last year's B1G finals!

 

[tabenn]

Are you sure the time for the NCAA semifinals pin is correct? My recollection is that it was also under 1 minute. Something like 45 seconds.

I would love to know what went through the Hawk fans minds after that 2nd pin. They probably had discounted the first as Brooks just "getting caught." But after the second, there seemed to be a pattern developing. Number 3 pretty much iced it.

Penn State Wrestling club site--has results for each wrestler each year--the have fall 1:01 also

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

Off subject a bit, but my Hawkeye loving dad is the biggest Sammy Brooks fan. I had Sammy sign a poster for my dad and he is a very gracious young man with such a great smile. Bo is a guy who really punishes over aggressive wrestlers, so Sammy was in trouble from the start when the two matched up. Martin doesn't have the same skill set as Bo, so Sammy imposed his will and wore Martin out. Bowman is not Brooks, but I like how he engages even when outmatched as well. I guess I look at it as Bo being that special instead of a shortcoming on the opponents part.

That's it exactly. Sammy, who I used to love - and hate - to watch went into most every match like he was the strongest (equates to baddest) man on the mat, and most of the time it played out very well. But against the funky wrestlers like Bo or Nolf, that kind of stuff just doesn't always work so well since they are more or less begging for you to engage. Guys like that remind me of Royce Gracie back when MMA first hit the scene. Royce would lure the larger, stronger fighters into his "space" and then destroy them with via Jiu-Jitsu. Watch UFC 1 if you ever get bored...That's what Sammy looks like against Bo. That said, loved Sammy and loved watching him wrestle almost everyone, but he could frustrate the hell out of his fan base at times. LOL!