Bowl guru Palm has us back in the NY6
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I think an undefeated regular season should mean more than OSU lurking in the weeds. Had they lost by 3 to Michigan, I could feel their pain. They lost by 22 or something the last week of the year (aka no time to improve).
I don't think that's the rational to use. Otherwise, why not call Vegas and let them set the top 4 based on betting favorites?
Heck, Bama is probably a betting favorite over everyone but UGA today. I don't think that means, with 2 losses, they deserve a playoff spot.
I don't see why 2 losses matter. When we had 2 losses we should have been in over Washington. I think they committee has learned from that.
Like I said--I just want to see TCU and USC lose to see chaos.
Yeah, I don't necessarily either--Utah did beat USC already though and K-State had a big halftime lead against TCU the first time they played so it's definitely not impossible.
The conference would get millions of dollars less of they did that. For that reason, I bet tye answer is no.
The buffer of weeks past is gone. UT and Bama are going to be separated by one spot with identical records and UT having the H2H. UT should come out in front in that situation using logic from committees past.
I don’t have a problem with TCU going in over tOSU with a loss (I’d prefer it actually) but I just don’t think it’s a given that TCU is in regardless of their outcome. I would agree that Georgia and Michigan are in regardless of this weekend’s results.
Me either but last night they did say that USCs road to the rose was UCLA, ND, and Utah in three weeks.
If this were a Bama team that lost early and improved, perhaps so. I don't think it's anything learned. Bama = ratings. TCU = less ratings than Bama.
TCU has done exactly what both UGA and Michigan have: undefeated regular season in a P5 conference. I don't believe in discrediting a conference. Either they are legit or they aren't. Make such labels beforehand and disqualify the others so it's known from the beginning.
It's brand bias and nothing more. Undefeated Texas and undefeated Oklahoma would not be scrutinized this way.
If Purdue beats Michigan, I'd probably be OK with pulling Michigan from the playoff.
Where do you think Purdue lands this week to promote that game? 20-25 is possible.
f Purdue beats Michigan, I'd probably be OK with pulling Michigan from the playoff.
That would be glorious.
I don't think they're ranked but maybe 24/25
Cincinnati and Louisville are the only teams that definitely fall out of the rankings--we'll see about Ole Miss but South Carolina is going to definitely be ranked and I think Miss State will be as well. Boise State, Illinois and UTSA should be ranked before Purdue based on what the committee has done this year.
Curious to see what they do from 19 down. UNC shouldn't be ranked but will be
I wonder if any of the three 8-4 west schools make the top 25. Illinois is pretty damn good as they nearly took UM down.
The committee ranked UVA a few seasons ago prior to the ccg with Clemson then kept them ranked after the loss for the bowl vs Florida.
Why would you say Illinois deserves ranked over Purdue? Same record, Purdue won h2h.
UTSA? Losses to Texas and Houston. No P5 wins. 20 teams go 12-0 against that schedule.
Boise? Losses to BYU and Oregon State with no P5 wins. Nah. Terrible resume.
If any get ranked, it's gotta be Purdue. Wins over Minnesota and Illinois. Then there is the promotion of the ccg.
I'm not saying Purdue is good, but you can't argue any other West team over them.
I would think Purdue has the best chance to be ranked this week since the committee seems to like to promote the CCGs other things being equal.
That part is the same. But, should either UGA or UM lose, they will have played other P5 team(s) with 1/2 losses. TCU will have had 2 games against a 3-loss P5 team if they lose. That isn’t the same.
Me too...but only if we get the NY6 Cotton bid regardless.
If not, then the Bucks getting into the playoffs is a price I'm willing to pay in exchange for an NY6 bowl (Rose).
Cotton should be ours unless lsu upsets Georgia. If we are ranked behind 3 loss lsu this week well f that.
I don't think Boise or UTSA are good but they have the win total and are likely going to be conference champs
Yes, I'd have Illinois ahead of Purdue. Illinois lost 3 games against the Big Ten East plus gave Michigan a hell of a game. Purdue's loss to Syracuse is really, really bad so was the Iowa loss.
I don't think anyone from the Big Ten West should be ranked honestly.
You agree South Carolina and Miss State will likely be ranked though? If so, then it's unlikely Purdue
Oh dear God, one month out and Lando is already warming up his Purdue act for use in an upcoming bowl.
Dude, no, it would not be better to play a 4-loss SEC team in the Citrus Bowl. It would be much better to play a likely top-15 (or better) 2-loss Tulane team in an NY6 bowl.
We win the Citrus, the line would be "okay, you beat a 4-loss team." And you'd be leading the chorus.
I won't be saying anything about the bowls because there's only 3 games left that matter. It's a scrimmage. But if you're one of those people that focus on bowl success like it's still the mid 80s then, yes, generally speaking people will value a win over Ole Miss/Miss State/LSU over Tulane. That's just reality.
Again, I won't say a word win or lose. I expect a lot of our players to sit out as well as they know it's meaningless.
For prestige and recruiting the ny6 games still have some benefits and how are the bowls going to work with the new larger playoff format
Maybe just forget the bowls and play Pitt at PSU for the pennsylvania championship
Well glad he is going to bat for the conference that’s a good thing regardless if he believes it or notMeanwhile, Kevin Warren lobbies for Ohio State to make the playoff regardless. Link below.
Kevin says yesterday's game is a statement on "how strong Big-10 football is." Gag.
Sorry, Kevin. Not gonna happen unless USC or TCU loses their conference championship game.
But it does put us in a no-lose position: The Bucks get denied and the howls of outrage from the Big-10 front office will be sweet to hear; or the Bucks get in, and we go to the Rose Bowl.
Warren: 'Without a doubt' OSU deserves CFP bid
Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren made the case for Ohio State to make the College Football Playoff despite its 45-23 loss to Michigan on Saturday.www.espn.com
Anytime you step on the field, it's not "meaningless." Every game counts, to include the bowl games. Yeah, they've lost some luster, but a W would still be a very nice way to end a successful season on a high note and a good springboard to next year.
There's no such thing as a meaningless win, Lando, much less a meaningless NY6 win.
Call me cynical, but I think he's more going to bat for the Big-2 than the Big-10.
You can play for pride but in grand scheme of things they're meaningless because there's a legit playoff finally which is why it needs to expand much further so teams are playing game with actual meaning.
How does a bowl game have anything to do with next year? Players leave--it's not the same team. I understand you and others haven't moved on from this bowl system and that's fine but don't pretend there's meaning in a scrimmage.
If someone else was 11-1 with only a loss to Michigan I'd expect the same--why wouldn't he? He's not an idiot. It's just easier to sell with it being Ohio State
Cotton versus Tulane.
He says only an LSU upset of Georgia might knock that off track.
His Playoff 4: Georgia, Michigan, TCU, USC...in that order. (Sorry, Psugo.)
Bowl projections: Michigan replaces Ohio State in College Football Playoff as LSU, Clemson ruin chances
Jerry Palm's bowl projections undergo yet another shakeup following a bevy of upsets throughout Rivalry Weekwww.cbssports.com
This is not only terrible for us, it's terrible for the NY6 overall.
Dallas in the winter against the likes of Tulane? The system screwed itself. I could drive there for the game and would still not attend.
While your last sentence is VERY true, I prefer the match-up vs. Tulane for the following reasons...
1. We will be favored to win...maybe 80/20...70/30 depending on opt - outs?
2. Ending this season on a potential win...given the last 2 seasons.
3. James record vs. SEC in Bowl games not great
4. Cliff will still be out starter and I like him better vs. Tulane, rather than #3/4 SEC or even Clemson / Oregon.
Maybe lame excuses, but for this year / this team, Ill take Tulane and (hopefully) a win and built on that for next year.
