Oh my. Dictating terms, go big man. Wooooooo. You are such a poor loser. Let me repeat that, you are such a poor loser. Sniffle sniffle.
BREAKING: Court orders Freeh documents be released to alumni-elected trustees
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Oh my. Dictating terms, go big man. Wooooooo. You are such a poor loser. Let me repeat that, you are such a poor loser. Sniffle sniffle.
Cool beans. I know you cannot outright tell us what is going to remain hidden. You are excellent with your hints, though.
Why didn't the Freeh back his conclusions with emphatic evidence? How come none of the accused were allowed input? It's really easy to condemn someone who has no voice in their defense at all. You basically just had some use circumstantial tidbits and then pronounced it as fact without ever talking to those accused.
In what world is that considered fair? I guess Syria right now comes to mind. If your evidence is so solid, why not release the documents right away? Why fight to keep them hidden? How can you sit there and say that any level of transparency was involved with Freeh's report? Honestly. I can draw up a report based on your posts, not talk to you, and make "reasonable" conclusions Jay beat you up and sell it as fact. You can't even say a peep about it, but sit there and take it. That is what his report was. Maybe it was all true, but the fight to suppress information really comes off as shady at best.
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To be fair: He has not had much time to shift his frame over from the previous frame. LOL.
Well so much for the unbiased report! I guess Curley listening to Joe means they all hid this under Joe's guidance. Remind me again who was President again when they fired GS? Who was paying Freeh's Bill?
I miss Marsh. I know he rubbed some people the wrong way, but he was a pretty decent guy the couple of times I met him and played golf with him.
He was involved with running some recruiting newsletters and something was either promised to him by the Paternos (as he had media credentials), or he had some connection with the Devlin family, and when Pat left, he was pretty upset about it.
In any case, when the sh*t hit the fan, he was pretty gleeful in the termination of Joe. And I think that really got to some people. Dancing on the grave and all of that. Lubrano and Marsh both live in the Exton, Pa area I believe.
The same documents that the University wanted to keep the "Joebots" from seeing in the first place?
Let's simplify so that maybe you can see through your arrogance. The fact that the alumni BOT members have to 'fight' to see the documents tells all one needs to know in regards to an objective investigation. I will stop there. Hopefully, you can understand that much....
Ship of Fools claiming victory in this case, akin to Custer's publicist declaring victory at The Little Big Horn.
The D-town QB boosters were so pissed at Joe because DC beat out Pat that they went off the deep end. I still remember sneaky pete emailing me saying DC was too Afro centric or some BS like that. He was somehow related to them as well. They basically crapped on DC for two years and then bailed when Pat left. Pat and DC handled it well, but those around Pat came off as spoiled entitled pric*s. JMO though. I get they wanted their guy to be the man, but pissing on DC was in pretty poor taste. At least on a public forum tied to the program.
Substantiated your ass. What standard is it when you reach reach and grandstand "conclusions" without even talking to the main players in an investigation, including the people you are condemning? You are full of $hit up to your ears.
The alumni trustees will now have access to the source documents. Does the court order allow those trustees to share that information with their attorneys/analysts? Are those trustees capable of sifting through the minutiae/details without additional help? I'm happy they won the case but I just hope they are up to what I would anticipate being an immense task.
I've refrained on commenting, in order to avoid attracting Pitt fans, but I am very pleased with the current trend. The fact that CR and Mich feel compelled to rain on our parade only is further proof that interesting times are ahead.
Once again, it sucks to be cr66 and michidiot.
I thought it was interesting that CR's response was basically, well fine, they got what you wanted but they won't be able to talk about what's in there.
From 5/10/2012...
Anthony,
Congratulations on your election to the Penn State Board of Trustees. I hope you find/make your tenure a productive one.
I was witness to some spirited exchanges on the BWI bulletin board today, and thought I might offer you a hand in case you wanted it. I'll let you figure out whose site this is ...
[redacted]
His profile says he was educated at Penn State, which I don't think is entirely untrue, but I'm 90%+ sure he does not hold a Penn State degree -- at least he has dodged answering that question every time I've asked him over the past ten years, and I don't think he's listed in the Alumni data base.
Regards,
"PSU Mike"
[actual name signed]
Not sure about the degree but he does have a "Way" named after him in downtown State College.
Exactly. 100 people knew who he was, but Anthony didn't appear to. I felt the asymmetry in identity was an issue in the argument [edit: "exchange - lol]Not sure about the degree but he does have a "Way" named after him in downtown State College.
What burns my ass is at one point Emmert claimed Freeh DID have subpoena power and implied Freeh's work was a real investigation. I know Emmert is a dumbass but he must have been fooled by the "Judge Freeh" label.
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They WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THERE, in executive session of the board. That is where a lot of action will go down.
The interesting thing is, can they talk about what is NOT in there? Seems to me that would be fair game.
You are reaching way to far. You are desperate.
There will be some evidence in the Freeh report. It may not be proof but there will be evidence. That was what he was collecting and then interpreting.....badly. The evidence that is found in those millions of emails will lead to further investigation, further interviews and further evidence. The data will show what the BoT members said. That stuff can be investigated and proved true or false. Motivation will be revealed. Then the dots will be connected and more evidence found and confirmed or repudiated. It's called due process.
Maybe someone lied...That would be a violation of their fiduciary to Penn State. That's a problem. May be someone did something illegal. They will find out and then we will find out. There are a substantial amount of documents that are not confidential that the Paterno legal team can work with.
I would be very worried if I were you michnittlion. BY the way what is the penalty for breaking confidentiality of a fact that is breaking a fiduciary or something that was illegal. The first- expulsion maybe the second NONE. The law trumps the confidentiality agreement.
Me thinks you are knowingly incorrect on this, and thus spinning. The alumni trustees agreed long ago to keep the information confidential. What they would not agree to was to accept the data/information being redacted which is what Masser and company wanted. This was the crux of the court fight. So the court DID NOT affirm what the OG BOT wanted and you've got brown eyes (translation for the uninitiated ... referring to someone as having brown eyes accompanied by a salute type motion at the forehead indicting that the subject is full of bullshite up to the hand motion level, i.e. making their eyes "brown").
Go get 'em! Thousands of loyal Penn Staters support your efforts. Thank you
666 now you are getting desperate. You know very well that was offered from day 1 was access to REDACTED source materials. What this fight was about was access to UNREDACTED source materials and the Alumni trustees won.
Why would I be "worried"? Everyone on the BoT could get thrown in jail, it won't bother my life. I'm just some obscure non-powerful alum who lives in Kentucky.
He was a pretentious name-dropper as well. It didn't take me long to see right through him. I howled when Coolest was able to get under his skin by puncturing his fragile ego.
I remember when he was made a mod on TOS and dropped within a month for being n ass.
I sure hope his connection with the Devlin family is that of a very close relative or Pat's godfather or something like that. Because otherwise, his Devlin fanboy act was creepy to the max.
I was going to say that marsh is the guy who crashed his car into former B1G referee Dick Honig's sporting goods store and link Honig's Wickepedia page as confirmation. Sadly, the page has been changed to remove the marsh reference.
I too worry about the omission and doctoring of documents. I think the alumni elected trustees should consider hiring Ray Blehar as a consultant to help with the analysis of all of this.
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