Brian Kelly to LSU?

[NittanyIllinois]

Being reported on a few places on social media.

The coaching carousel of all-time.

I'd expect Fickell to ND, and Marcus Freeman to Cincinnati next.

 

[katchthis]

Just heard it unconfirmed though

 

[katchthis]

It’s everywhere now

Sources: LSU expected to hire Notre Dame's Brian Kelly as its next head coach

An announcement on the hiring could be made as early as Tuesday.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[ram2020]

When all is said and done, maybe we got a deal on James franklin? These guys are getting PAID

 

[SLion]

Crazy if true.

 

[RadnorJohn]

When all is said and done, maybe we got a deal on James franklin? These guys are getting PAID

Yeah, a bad deal!!!

 

[PSULionsDub]

If Kelly to LSU is true, then he is walking away from Top 5 recruiting classes in 2022 and 2023. But then again, maybe he is able to pull a Lincoln Riley and convince his top recruits to join him as he is walking out the door

 

[wolve1972]

Being reported on a few places on social media.

The coaching carousel of all-time.

I'd expect Fickell to ND, and Marcus Freeman to Cincinnati next.

Agree, both make a lot of sense.

 

[RickinDayton]

If Kelly to LSU is true, then he is walking away from Top 5 recruiting classes in 2022 and 2023. But then again, maybe he is able to pull a Lincoln Riley and convince his top recruits to join him as he is walking out the door

Perhaps they will follow him to the SEC?

 

[Obliviax]

And that would leave ND for Fickell

 

[MacNit07]

If Kelly to LSU is true, then he is walking away from Top 5 recruiting classes in 2022 and 2023. But then again, maybe he is able to pull a Lincoln Riley and convince his top recruits to join him as he is walking out the door

That foul mouth will fit right in the crooked Bayou.

 

[SLion]

Wow, shocking..paiging Derrick Davis to transfer. CJF gets on phone with Aiden Gobaira, Jay Bellamy tomorrow

 

[Psugo823]

Being reported on a few places on social media.

The coaching carousel of all-time.

I'd expect Fickell to ND, and Marcus Freeman to Cincinnati next.

I fully expect a carousel of coaches who are better than James Franklin, traveling to different programs, and continuing to be better than James Franklin there, also, lol.

 

[Sproul]

Kelly said it would take a quarter billion dollars for him to leave ND. Did LSU say ok then?

 

[danvillenit]

Kelly said it would take a quarter billion dollars for him to leave ND. Did LSU say ok then?

Posters were outraged that Franklin wouldn’t make a statement like Kelly’s. Maybe he is actually honest

 

[Wallace Breen]

When all is said and done, maybe we got a deal on James franklin? These guys are getting PAID

No we didn't. We got a bad deal, and by bad, I mean bad. This deal should get Sandy fired for cause bad. Anytime you give up the ability to fire some one for years, you got a bad deal.

 

[bvillebaron]

No we didn't. We got a bad deal, and by bad, I mean bad. This deal should get Sandy fired for cause bad. Anytime you give up the ability to fire some one for years, you got a bad deal.

You can fire Franklin any time you want.

 

[PSULionsDub]

I just read a college football insider post on social media that said Kelly accepted the LSU job and Ghosted the Notre Dame program. An assistant coach was visiting a recruits home and found out about Kelly leaving while on the recruiting visit.

247Sports is reporting that Kelly will earn $15 million per year, which is crazy money.

 

[Jerry]

And that would leave ND for Fickell

I think the Irish may well look to Freeman, the Defensive Coordinator, who was seen as head coaching material even before this mindboggling turn of events with Kelly.

 

[PennStatePigskin]

No we didn't. We got a bad deal, and by bad, I mean bad. This deal should get Sandy fired for cause bad. Anytime you give up the ability to fire some one for years, you got a bad deal.

Sandy Barbour screwed up as UC Berkeley’s AD mismanaging sports infrastructure projects to the tune of $350 million +|- . Her tenure at PS has seen very few accomplishments.

Handy Sandy admitted this year I think that she badly misunderstood how important football was / is to Penn State. 😯 WOW 😮

So, Franklin wears golden handcuffs guaranteed for 10 years lest he can do better somewhere else. As a person I like Franklin but he’s not likely to deliver the goods for Dear Old State.

 

[PennStatePigskin]

ND coaches might not typically be linked to Lap dances .

 

[TheGLOV]

Notre Dame will lose their minds over this and give Urban Meyer the biggest contract of all time

Not a chance unless they throw in UN-limited college coed lap dances sir!

 

[WPTLION]

I was thinking why is this all happening now. But then thought oh yeah, early signing day. Has to happen now or the recruits are stuck.

 

[PSUSignore]

Posters were outraged that Franklin wouldn’t make a statement like Kelly’s. Maybe he is actually honest

I said the same weeks ago, the fans are never happy and the coaches lie because they more or less have to. When John Doe is looking for a new job should he go tell his boss and coworkers ahead of time and risk losing his current job and reputation before the new one is secured? Of course not.

These coaches have 3 options while being attached to new job rumors. Basically the fans are likely to end up unhappy no matter what so the coaches likely don't give a crap about fan perception when deciding how to publicly address job carousel rumors. Franklin going out of his way to not lie to the fanbase was actually kind of refreshing, that's not a common approach.

1. Make non-committal statements like Franklin's which is honest, and fans aren't happy about the uncertainty.
2. Make strong statements about staying, while actively working out new job details. Fans aren't happy because you lied.
3. Make strong statements about staying and shut down all communication with possible new jobs. Fans would be happy short term about the honesty and stability. Franklin was never going to do this because he wanted leverage to get Sandy to invest where he feels PSU is behind as a program. Long term fans could end up unhappy about not having made progress on the items where other programs do better.

 

[Obliviax]

So, I guess this is final. I would have never guessed he'd leave ND unless it was to the NFL. I guess ND is no longer a destination program?

 

[PSULionsDub]

So, I guess this is final. I would have never guessed he'd leave ND unless it was to the NFL. I guess ND is no longer a destination program?

I think the assumption is that Kelly does not believe that he can win a National Championship at Notre Dame. In fact, he is close to getting to the playoff right now if certain things happen this weekend. He has mentioned in the past that he cannot recruit at Notre Dame like the SEC does.

 

[Obliviax]

I think the assumption is that Kelly does not believe that he can win a National Championship at Notre Dame. In fact, he is close to getting to the playoff right now if certain things happen this weekend. He has mentioned in the past that he cannot recruit at Notre Dame like the SEC does.

his classes have been really good and he gets a lot of talent from Catholic Schools. Given how tOSU, OU and others are now recruiting in the southeast, I am not sure if that will hold true in the future. Also, the SEC has clearly been in front of NIL

 

[stf110]

I think the assumption is that Kelly does not believe that he can win a National Championship at Notre Dame. In fact, he is close to getting to the playoff right now if certain things happen this weekend. He has mentioned in the past that he cannot recruit at Notre Dame like the SEC does.

Or at the least feels that the chances are much better in the SEC where in a 4 team playoff the champion is always going to get in, and often there are talks of a 2nd team, and in an expanded playoff I would hazard that there always is going to be at least 2 teams from the SEC in and the talk would be about maybe 3.
ND will be still in the "you gotta go 12-0 or 11-1 to get in, and even at 11-1 that could be iffy" situation either way.

 

[The Spin Meister]

So, I guess this is final. I would have never guessed he'd leave ND unless it was to the NFL. I guess ND is no longer a destination program?

Probably several issues at play. A huge one has to be conference realignment. With OU and Tx going to SEC, rumors of Pac12 changes, possible B1G changes the pressure grows exponentially for ND to join a conference. And the most likely landing spot is the ACC. Perhaps he doesn’t like that prospect. Or the B1G and he doesn’t want to play third fiddle to O$U and Mich.

Plus being the ND coach comes with huge pressure that dwarfs what the AKB CAC dishes out daily. Alumni there are very demanding.

The escalating arms race. ND is a small school in a small town in a nondescript Midwest local. Hard to recruit, and thye may not have the deep pockets to compete with lazy rivers. Or, even if it does have the mullah, the admin may not be willing to build up. Perhaps they think mystique alone is sufficient. Or think such consumerism is beneath them.

Or just tired of cold winters.....

 

[Obliviax]

Probably several issues at play. A huge one has to be conference realignment. With OU and Tx going to SEC, rumors of Pac12 changes, possible B1G changes the pressure grows exponentially for ND to join a conference. And the most likely landing spot is the ACC. Perhaps he does like that prospect. Or the B1G and he doesn’t want to play third fiddle to O$U and Mich.

Plus being the ND coach comes with huge pressure that dwarfs what the AKB CAC dishes out daily. Alumni there are very demanding.

The escalating arms race. ND is a small school in a small town in a nondescript Midwest local. Hard to recruit, and thye may not have the deep pockets to compete with lazy rivers. Or, even if it does have the mullah, the admin may not be willing to build up. Perhaps they think mystique alone is sufficient. Or think such consumerism is beneath them.

Or just tired of cold winters.....

I don't disagree except for ND being a tough place to recruit or the ND doesn't have the money or brand. I suspect a big problem has been kelly because I can't imagine somebody wanting to play for him. Even those that grew up dreaming of playing for ND all of their lives.

Bottom line is, CFA is in danger of becoming SEC with everyone else being the minor leagues. At some point, the lower part of the SEC will have to bail out. The growth is unsustainable.

 

[PSUSignore]

I think the assumption is that Kelly does not believe that he can win a National Championship at Notre Dame. In fact, he is close to getting to the playoff right now if certain things happen this weekend. He has mentioned in the past that he cannot recruit at Notre Dame like the SEC does.

I had the same initial thought but going to the SEC West doesn't exactly boost chances to make the playoff even with better recruiting. That division is a meat grinder.

 

[The Spin Meister]

I don't disagree except for ND being a tough place to recruit or the ND doesn't have the money or brand. I suspect a big problem has been kelly because I can't imagine somebody wanting to play for him. Even those that grew up dreaming of playing for ND all of their lives.

Bottom line is, CFA is in danger of becoming SEC with everyone else being the minor leagues. At some point, the lower part of the SEC will have to bail out. The growth is unsustainable.

I don’t follow recruiting all that closely. Too many ‘can’t miss’ misses. But don’t recall seeing many first round draft picks out of ND lately. Seems all the big super stars/big flash players end up at bama, Clemson, O$U, LSU, Georgia.

ND seems to get the solid mid round types. And they have lost some to aura they used to have. Kids now dream about the big three.

 

[heckmans]

So, I guess this is final. I would have never guessed he'd leave ND unless it was to the NFL. I guess ND is no longer a destination program?

15 years ago, no coach would have left OK and ND for USC and LSU.
I think this is a reflection of what we've been talking about in the context of NIL, realignment, and the future of the NCAA. These coaches see a big change coming - diminished overall interest and revenues for NCAA football and probably a consolidation to some sort of 12-16 team "super league" that will go all in to compete. I don't think PSU nor scUM is part of this. OSU obviously will be.
I still don't get Riley going to the PAC12 vs the SEC in this context, but I can see USC committing more resources to compete long-term. I don't know what the other explanation could be.

 

[Jerry]

Probably several issues at play. A huge one has to be conference realignment. With OU and Tx going to SEC, rumors of Pac12 changes, possible B1G changes the pressure grows exponentially for ND to join a conference. And the most likely landing spot is the ACC. Perhaps he does like that prospect. Or the B1G and he doesn’t want to play third fiddle to O$U and Mich.

Plus being the ND coach comes with huge pressure that dwarfs what the AKB CAC dishes out daily. Alumni there are very demanding.

The escalating arms race. ND is a small school in a small town in a nondescript Midwest local. Hard to recruit, and thye may not have the deep pockets to compete with lazy rivers. Or, even if it does have the mullah, the admin may not be willing to build up. Perhaps they think mystique alone is sufficient. Or think such consumerism is beneath them.

Or just tired of cold winters.....

Those are all plausible points, but at the end of the day, I think this may have come down to the most basic consideration of all: cold hard cash. Just south of $10 million a year plus incentives.

After all, the Irish are on the cusp of the playoff again this year, and another highly-ranked class of recruits is waiting in the wings...so everything is coming up roses from a football standpoint.

In addition, he may feel that his legacy at ND is secure. Most wins in the school's history. On the other hand, the failure to win a national championship leaves him out of the company of legendary Irish coaches like Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian, or even Holtz. In fact, I'd take Holtz in his prime over Kelly.

 

[Obliviax]

 

[heckmans]

I don't disagree except for ND being a tough place to recruit or the ND doesn't have the money or brand. I suspect a big problem has been kelly because I can't imagine somebody wanting to play for him. Even those that grew up dreaming of playing for ND all of their lives.

Bottom line is, CFA is in danger of becoming SEC with everyone else being the minor leagues. At some point, the lower part of the SEC will have to bail out. The growth is unsustainable.

My prognostication
-Amateurism has an appeal, as does connection to a university and fellow students, including athletes.
-NIL makes players focus on athletics and self-interest even more than today.
-When the players display their self-interest and little loyalty to the shared bond of the university, fans will view CFB as more semi-pro.
-No one cares about the minor leagues. Overall viewership, attendance, and revenues will decline.
-Some schools, in places like Tuscaloosa, where there is little NFL competition, will continue to thrive. Perhaps some other big spenders in large markets will make it as well.
-This ultimately shakes out as a national Premier League of 12-16 teams. The other P5 teams slide into a 2nd tier that looks more like CFB of 30+ years ago.

 

[RickinDayton]

I don’t follow recruiting all that closely. Too many ‘can’t miss’ misses. But don’t recall seeing many first round draft picks out of ND lately. Seems all the big super stars/big flash players end up at bama, Clemson, O$U, LSU, Georgia.

ND seems to get the solid mid round types. And they have lost some to aura they used to have. Kids now dream about the big three.

Thy have had some OL 1st rounders.

 

[PSUSignore]

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I don't know why people are surprised. First, there's not much for him to say at this point, it's a done deal. Second, he has a track record of being a dick. Didn't he leave Cincinnati in a similar fashion? Also he more or less killed that kid in the video tower during practice in bad weather.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Thy have had some OL 1st rounders.

Yep. I checked. No first rounders the last two years. Four or five in the last ten. And those were three o linemen and one d lineman. The glory boys, the ones that make splash plays that turn games around, go elsewhere.

 

[Obliviax]

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