Sad news. So young. We never know.
You never know, it's happening so frequently now to young athletes and I'm seeing it amongst friends in my late 40s age group as well. It seems way too frequent although who knows the situation for each person individually. The cumulative is what is concerning me.
I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.You never know, it's happening so frequently now to young athletes and I'm seeing it amongst friends in my late 40s age group as well. It seems way too frequent although who knows the situation for each person individually. The cumulative is what is concerning me.
It's just that you won't get a straight answer even if you do ask. To be fair, there probably isn't real research on it and there's also possibly a reason there isn't real research on it.I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.
Maybe you are arent allowed, but I always ask the question. I’m pretty sure there are studies that are showing the increase in young men and males n their 40’s.I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.
The issue as I have read is with the spike protein in COVID which damages cardiovascular systems. The spike protein by the way is the same one that the mRNA vaccines constantly produce within your body to trigger an immune response to it to recognize and attack it in the COVID molecule. We know that the spike protein causes issues to cardiovascular health and we know that a constant state of immune response also does.Maybe the issue is with Covid exposure itself. That needs to be studied harder as it’s a real issue
Or maybe it's the vax.Maybe the issue is with Covid exposure itself. That needs to be studied harder as it’s a real issue
Now see that isn't permitted to be studied harder as the other poster suggested.Or maybe it's the vax.
Where did I say that? However I have a clear understanding of how the mRNA injection works. I just think its funny how no one ever blames covid itself when its well established how the virus causes cardio issues.Now see that isn't permitted to be studied harder as the other poster suggested.
There is definitely clotting associated with covid exposure.Maybe the issue is with Covid exposure itself. That needs to be studied harder as it’s a real issue
You can ask...any medical procedure has its risks or consequences, even to an unpredictable small population....make a conscious decision.I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.
I'll blame COVID when you acknowledge that the virus is the product of gain of function research, funded by the DOD and Anthony Fauci, and developed at UNC and Wuhan.Where did I say that? However I have a clear understanding of how the mRNA injection works. I just think its funny how no one ever blames covid itself when its well established how the virus causes cardio issues.
As for Bronny who knows what happened. I wish him the best. He worked hard to get to where he is at and it could be changing for him.
Why?More likely to be a side effect of the virus than the vaccine.
This ! Not worth the risk anymore for the young manSad news regardless of anyone's thoughts on LeBron
I know the kid loves basketball but given these circumstances it might be time to walk away from the game. This happening at his age obviously isn't normal, it could be something like an enlarged heart--nothing to mess around with. Best news is he'll get the best treatment money can buy. Hopefully a speedy recovery.
My reference about you having said it was in the statement "That needs to be studied harder as it’s a real issue". I didn't imply that specifically you said that vaccine deaths could not be studied harder.Where did I say that? However I have a clear understanding of how the mRNA injection works. I just think its funny how no one ever blames covid itself when its well established how the virus causes cardio issues.
As for Bronny who knows what happened. I wish him the best. He worked hard to get to where he is at and it could be changing for him.
He says so and wants it to be so. Remember this is the poster that pushed many false government narratives in the COVID thread including false claims about the shots.Why?
Because scientists think it is antibodies that cause the clots. There will be far more antibodies from an actual infection as opposed to the vaccine (which has far fewer). So unless someone never had the virus (which at this point is probably pretty unlikely, even it was asymptomatic) this seems like the most logical pathway, based on what we know about what is causing the clots.Why?
Now who would have produced more antibodies:Because scientists think it is antibodies that cause the clots. There will be far more antibodies from an actual infection as opposed to the vaccine (which has far fewer). So unless someone never had the virus (which at this point is probably pretty unlikely, even it was asymptomatic) this seems like the most logical pathway, based on what we know about what is causing the clots.
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New Cause of COVID-19 Blood Clots Identified
A new study reveals the COVID-19 virus triggers production of autoantibodies circulating through the blood, causing blood coagulation and clots in people hospitalized with the disease.www.michiganmedicine.org
(sorry for the Meatchicken link but they do a good job of explaining it)
A good question. But probably #1. The vaccine is a very controlled stimulation of your immune system. When you have an actual infection, your immune system goes 1000 mph (meaning far more antibodies).Now who would have produced more antibodies:
1) 18 year old male, no shots, infected once or twice a year or two ago
2) 18 year old male, 2 shots plus at least 1 or more boosters spread over a couple of years, infected once or twice a year or two ago
Thanks!
Which false government narrative are those? (trust me, you don't want to go down this pathway)He says so and wants it to be so. Remember this is the poster that pushed many false government narratives in the COVID thread including false claims about the shots.
Here are a few of your previous statements that you can justify if you like. If you want, I will grab some more.Which false government narrative are those? (trust me, you don't want to go down this pathway)
It's not just about you. Just like the flu is not just about you, it is about being a vector for spread, covid is the same way.
Everyone should get every vaccine that is relevant to the geography that they live in. There is no good scientific reason not to and if you choose not to get a vaccine (be it covid or the flu or whatever) you are either ignorant or selfish or both.
Everyone's risk tolerance is difference, however, if you understand risk management, and/or want society to return to normal, not getting the vaccine is, at best, ignorant.
I would not argue with you that the current policy regarding return to normality is not being handled properly. However, if you accept that you, as an individual, are unlikely to change that policy, and that policy stressed maximum vaccination, if you want things to return to normal, you need to get vaccinated. Now, it is perfectly fine to say that you don't really care if things return to normal and the tiny, tiny, tiny risk associated with vaccination is not worth it to you. That is an acceptable logical conclusion. It is selfish as it screws it up for everyone else, but it internally logical, if these are metrics of decision making.
Regarding the J&J vaccine, the only thing handled wrong was that they should not have paused vaccinations. 1 death in 7 million doses is statistically insignificant.
All three vaccines are safe.
Kids also don't get sick from getting the vaccine, so if there is any chance that it helps kids not transmit it to grandma, why not do it?
Part of this is reporting bias.
People have accepted the flu shot as safe, so if someone has aches and pains two days afterwards (because they were, for example, shoveling snow) they are unlikely to report it to VAERS (again VAERS is self reported, data that are not QA-QC'd).
Because you get a giant pamphlet of material when you get a covid vaccine, plus you hear all this disinformation (e.g. this thread) people will tend to report new vaccines more than older "accepted" vaccines.
But the important thing here is DO NOT USE THE RAW VAERS DATA. IT IS NOT USEFUL UNTIL AFTER IT HAS BEEN QA/QC'D.
Three points here:
1) I disagree that there has been less than full transparency, at least compared to other FDA authorizations. Raw data is only usually shared much much later in the process for reasons I have stated above. Having said that, I don't work for FDA or CDC (although I am in a sports league with a lot of those folks) so if someone has more documentation about what is "normal" for transparency, please share.
2) There are no vaccine mandates that will force anyone to get vaccinated. Having said that, there absolutely CAN (and will) be vaccine requirements for education (not new, kids have needed vaccines for other things for years), employment (not new for some jobs), and other venues (e.g. restaurants, which is new, but restaurants are obviously not a Constitutionally guaranteed right).
3)I don't think we have enough data to know how effective natural immunity is. I think you are right in that there is certainly a natural immunity component, but that doesn't really translate into a reasonable public health strategy (e.g. please get covid so you have immunity....from covid).
I honestly don't know. I hope not.
But people saying "I don't trust the CDC" are a little too far afield for me to have a rational conversation with.
Thinking it is ignorant and cruel just means you should have paid more attention in science class. Either that or just leave the science to the scientists.
Which false government narrative are those? (trust me, you don't want to go down this pathway)
You know it’s from the shotSad news regardless of anyone's thoughts on LeBron
I know the kid loves basketball but given these circumstances it might be time to walk away from the game. This happening at his age obviously isn't normal, it could be something like an enlarged heart--nothing to mess around with. Best news is he'll get the best treatment money can buy. Hopefully a speedy recovery.
You are brain washed. I never the flu vaccine. I haven’t had the flu since grade school and I’m 60 now. Didn’t get the Covid jab. Had Covid once and no symptoms. I think I’m doing alright. Your the ignorant one pal.Which false government narrative are those? (trust me, you don't want to go down this pathway)
I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.
I don't "know" that--pretending it can't be an enlarged heart is inaccurate.You know it’s from the shot
You sound like one of those "iT's JuSt A cOlD!" people, but the reality is likely that the longer term effects of the actual virus are appearing to manifest, and it will likely be several more years before the truth is known.You are brain washed. I never the flu vaccine. I haven’t had the flu since grade school and I’m 60 now. Didn’t get the Covid jab. Had Covid once and no symptoms. I think I’m doing alright. Your the ignorant one pal.
It does obviously. Cmon, its insane.I just find it amazing that we aren't even allowed to ask the question if the covid vaccines have anything to do with an uptick in young, healthy athletes' issues with cardiac arrest and clotting.
There's no research on it at all and there won't be. But when athletes are dropping like flies its not hard to see.It's just that you won't get a straight answer even if you do ask. To be fair, there probably isn't real research on it and there's also possibly a reason there isn't real research on it.
Keep posting these. You could go for days posting these stories with famous people/athletes alone. And people will still deny/ignore it.![]()
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