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CA bill to pay amateur athletes

because just like your example.. I'm inclined to think this will only benefit the high caliber athlete (the 1% of the 1%) while hurting the others who no longer will be able to play due to smaller schools pulling scholarship #'s. Swinney will be fine... Appalachian State's of the world, not so much.

I'd like to be proven wrong btw... i just have a cynical view of it.

So here is language from the bill as far as I could find - https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB206

"Existing law, known as the Student Athlete Bill of Rights, requires intercollegiate athletic programs at 4-year private universities or campuses of the University of California or the California State University that receive, as an average, $10,000,000 or more in annual revenue derived from media rights for intercollegiate athletics to comply with prescribed requirements relating to student athlete rights.
This bill would prohibit California postsecondary educational institutions except community colleges, and every athletic association, conference, or other group or organization with authority over intercollegiate athletics, from providing a prospective intercollegiate student athlete with compensation in relation to the athlete’s name, image, or likeness, or preventing a student participating in intercollegiate athletics from earning compensation as a result of the use of the student’s name, image, or likeness or obtaining professional representation relating to the student’s participation in intercollegiate athletics."

From that statement I get that the bill prevents colleges from paying players directly and that it prohibits the college from kicking the student athlete off the team if they make money elsewhere from their name/image/likeness. So once again the athletic departments of smaller colleges would not be putting out additional monies with this bill, only that they can't keep kids from earning money from other entities. IANAL though so someone feel free to correct me.
 
I think this version of it nixed the $10 million rule.

But yes, the law basically says players can make money off their own likenesses and neither the school nor the NCAA can do anything about it
 
Its coming eventually, and will be a great case study in the law of unintended consequences.
 
I didn’t realize it didn’t kick in until 2023. Sounds like the Cali legislature made the delay hoping other states join them so they don’t shoot themselves in the foot by eliminating their own universities.

Maybe we'll get real lucky and by 2023 the NCAA will be gone.
 
Hard to believe the moral and legalistic posturing involved with "amateur" athletes. These are almost all people who are legally subject to being conscripted to go out and to kill and be killed for our values. Let them make a few bucks. The people who now deliver the goods (the bagmen) will soon become our new cultural icons.

All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to remain silent. College is for students to play games not to make a living. They can make a few bucks AFTER THEY GRADUATE. If they can't graduate, then they can go professional.
 
All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to remain silent. College is for students to play games not to make a living. They can make a few bucks AFTER THEY GRADUATE. If they can't graduate, then they can go professional.

The evil NCAA is succeeding you “good men” are siding with the evil based on some antiquated notion that college sports is still an amateur endeavor. Bagmen are operating as they always have, players are flashing wads of cash on twitter, look at the recent scandal in men’s basketball as another example, and the NCAA is doing nothing to stop it because they and colleges are making billions off these student athletes. If you’re not on board with colleges paying kids directly at least let them earn money off their own freaking name and image.

Instead of sharing the EA sports example again of them making millions off player likenesses, let’s go local and say the Waffle Shop wanted to have some of the best student athletes on hand to talk with patrons/sign autographs to help bring in customers. Explain to me what is wrong with the student athletes getting compensated via let’s say an “appearance fee” for their time spent doing that? I know it’s a simplistic argument but ya’ll seem to be okay with billions being made off these kids so maybe considering it at a smaller level would be helpful.
 
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The evil NCAA is succeeding you “good men” are siding with the evil based on some antiquated notion that college sports is still an amateur endeavor. Bagmen are operating as they always have, players are flashing wads of cash on twitter, look at the recent scandal in men’s basketball as another example, and the NCAA is doing nothing to stop it because they and colleges are making billions off these student athletes. If you’re not on board with colleges paying kids directly at least let them earn money off their own freaking name and image.

Instead of sharing the EA sports example again of them making millions off player likenesses, let’s go local and say the Waffle Shop wanted to have some of the best student athletes on hand to talk with patrons/sign autographs to help bring in customers. Explain to me what is wrong with the student athletes getting compensated via let’s say an “appearance fee” for their time spent doing that? I know it’s a simplistic argument but ya’ll seem to be okay with billions being made off these kids so maybe considering it at a smaller level would be helpful.

So if a Tuscaloosa Chevy dealership promises 500k a year in appearance fees to any 4 or 5 star player that commits to the Tide, that won't cause any issues?
 
Are you saying the starts would get less $$$ than they do now?;)

Well obviously, plus it'd be above board so its taxable.

That said, at the end of the day its a huge can of worms that will benefit your Tuas, your Saquons etc very short term at the expense of the other 95% of players.

If there's that much money to be made putting together a small league of all-star 18-21 year old football players who want more than a scholarship and can't play in the nfl someone should start it tomorrow...
 
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So many people hear "pay the players" and their brains shut off. They think of "entitlement" and spoiled athletes and such.

The reality is...this allows PSU to compete with the bag men in the South. Instead of Jim Bob's Car Dealership of Alabama giving $1000 each month under the table to a poor Defensive Tackle...Ricky Bobby's Car Dealership of Pennsylvania can give the same poor Defensive Tackle $1000 each month as endorsement money. This gives PSU a chance to be an "elite" recruiting school like Ohio State and Bama and Georgia and Clemson (and USC 10 years ago and Miami 20 years ago).

NLI--name likeness image--compensation....aka the Olympic Model will fix most of the corruption in college sports.
 

You forgot the part about the Pell Grant buckaroos and the zero student debt coming out of school.

Who the crap wouldn't take that schedule to play a game you love, and get a free education worth thousands of dollars in the process? If a kid can't afford some "extra guac" on roughly $500 a month tax free (he's still under the current standard deduction), he needs to take an extra economics or accounting course.

Colleges were never designed to do the NFL's work. They were designed to TRAIN students for the next step in life. WRT college football, that is either the NFL, or, more than likely, the ability to earn a prosperous living in an area of your choice if you're like the hundreds of others that aren't good enough.

Talk about games being fixed, I'm afraid we are about to enter a Wild West show.
 
You forgot the part about the Pell Grant buckaroos and the zero student debt coming out of school.

Who the crap wouldn't take that schedule to play a game you love, and get a free education worth thousands of dollars in the process? If a kid can't afford some "extra guac" on roughly $500 a month tax free (he's still under the current standard deduction), he needs to take an extra economics or accounting course.

Colleges were never designed to do the NFL's work. They were designed to TRAIN students for the next step in life. WRT college football, that is either the NFL, or, more than likely, the ability to earn a prosperous living in an area of your choice if you're like the hundreds of others that aren't good enough.

Talk about games being fixed, I'm afraid we are about to enter a Wild West show.
Then all of the money the NCAA, schools, ect. make should be donated to charity.
 
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Well, actually, since you brought it up, since 2011, DOMESTIC net migration wrt California has been negative. More people from California have moved out to other states than have moved in from other states, and it's accelerating faster and faster every year.

California's population is still growing, but it's due to INTERNATIONAL migration and the resulting increasing birth rate.

God forbid we bring in immigrants! Smart ones too! Someone get me some pearls to clutch. Mother! Put on the Fox News stat!
 
You forgot the part about the Pell Grant buckaroos and the zero student debt coming out of school.

Who the crap wouldn't take that schedule to play a game you love, and get a free education worth thousands of dollars in the process? If a kid can't afford some "extra guac" on roughly $500 a month tax free (he's still under the current standard deduction), he needs to take an extra economics or accounting course.

Colleges were never designed to do the NFL's work. They were designed to TRAIN students for the next step in life. WRT college football, that is either the NFL, or, more than likely, the ability to earn a prosperous living in an area of your choice if you're like the hundreds of others that aren't good enough.

Talk about games being fixed, I'm afraid we are about to enter a Wild West show.

NFL players would never settle for that type of compensation, and they are also part of a multibillion industry.
 
God forbid we bring in immigrants! Smart ones too! Someone get me some pearls to clutch. Mother! Put on the Fox News stat!

Legal immigration is a great thing. Illegal immigration puts a major stress on your infrastructure. That's as far as I will go with this tangent on this subject on this Board. Unfortunately, California has gotten so bad almost anything you discuss involving it turns into Test Board material.
 
I find this right to the point. Tim Tebow is getting paid handsomely to cover college football. Ironic?


And he got "trained" to do that in college. You're probably getting paid now too. The only difference is, unless you were on scholarship like Tebow, you had to pay your own way to get trained (or your parents had to pay the bills for you).
 
And he got "trained" to do that in college. You're probably getting paid now too. The only difference is, unless you were on scholarship like Tebow, you had to pay your own way to get trained (or your parents had to pay the bills for you).
I respectfully disagree. Have a great day! We are!
 
When I was in grad school I had an assistantship that paid my tuition and gave me a stipend. Why can’t college athletes have that?
 
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