Some of our guys can't until their training kicks in late in March.Never said that but he can't seem to win big matchups.
Some of our guys can't until their training kicks in late in March.Never said that but he can't seem to win big matchups.
I thought Brady looked small as well compared to Marinelli.Berge and stalling. Agree, Also agree 4 stall calls was a bit much considering Rivera wasn't anywhere that aggressive calling stalls in any other match.
If that is the best Berge has to offer one of the very elite 165 pounders he probably should consider 157. He isn't going to challenge Carr, nor Deaken but nobody at 157 is going to bully him like Marinelli did.
Solid analysis......honestly, i don't think either team wrestled that well tonight.
125 hildebrandt was okay, but ybarra is bad and he had to beat the buzzer for that major. only 1 takedown.
133 my thoughts are known here. rby is capable of more. desanto can't finish without the dump and that will always be his ceiling. neither team should feel great about this match
141 was going how i expected until the brain fart at the end. iowa can't be happy about eierman still being flat and cael can't be happy about lee almost pissing that away
149 murin very good. cael has to be frustrated with bartlett
157 young owes me 7 minutes of my life back. obv 157 not a strength for you guys
165 marinelli best match of the year. berge broke.
174 starocci aggressive, but couldn't finish. had kem dead to rights multiple times. 2nd match in a row where kem struggled to get to legs. going forward, even though neither can reliably score, starocci is better suited to rideouts.
184 should have been a major. assad fought, but is not on the level. brooks capable of more.
197 warner blew this match. couldn't hold up to the pace. dean has carved out a style at 197, but it's a tight rope to walk
285 good job cass. weird match kerk.
on balance, there's a lot for both coaches to be displeased about.
Not true. Rational is encouraged..........@pawrestlersintn
You're pissing in the wind over there. Rational posts are not understood in the cesspool.
@pawrestlersintn
You're pissing in the wind over there. Rational posts are not understood in the cesspool.
Was Angel the bus driver? Just trying to figure out how to get an average official involved. Yes, I know Angel is somewhat below average, but he is the average bad official.Well, except that Ann Arbor and Lansing are only an hour apart and it's almost all freeway driving.
The hard part was the bus ride to/from State College.
Maybe by you personally, but not by your masses. As little as their collective mind is, they make up their own mind and rarely is rational thought encouraged or tolerated.Not true. Rational is encouraged..........
Z
There are plenty of Iowa Fans that would probably reciprocate those exact words back about this forum as well.I used to go over to the HR for a bit of entertaining reading and also to catch some balanced takes on wrestling. The good posters there were washed into the mix and it was harder and harder to find their posts. I stopped going there two years ago...
If it gets better I'll be back.. Doubt you will be able to change the environment there quickly but I hope you do.
Maybe new to the party from a University commitment to wrestling, but PA wrestling fans and PA wrestling are not new to any party.There are plenty of Iowa Fans that would probably reciprocate those exact words back about this forum as well.
Two passionate fan bases. you guys are basically new to the party (in the last decade) and Iowa fans don't like it. Completely understandable.
Mike
you guys are basically new to the party
I meant new to being a dominate figure in the sport.Maybe new to the party from a University commitment to wrestling, but PA wrestling fans and PA wrestling are not new to any party.
Having seen The Bull's donnybrooks with Cenzo I was worried for Berge if it turned into that kind of match. He seemed to wrestle like he was, too. He also looked like he was up a weight. It will be interesting to see how he does against Kharchla.This probably won't go over well but IMO, Brady didn't look like he wanted anything to do with The Bull, or wrestling whatsoever last night. It makes me wonder if last night makes him second guess his decision to return. I hope my opinion ends up being complete BS.
I always knew you were on our side.Not true. Rational is encouraged..........
Z
You're supposed to put a winky face at the end.I meant new to being a dominate figure in the sport.
Z
Not true........I only have one side!I always knew you were on our side.
Come on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestlingThere are plenty of Iowa Fans that would probably reciprocate those exact words back about this forum as well.
Two passionate fan bases. you guys are basically new to the party (in the last decade) and Iowa fans don't like it. Completely understandable.
Mike
Huh, thought you were Iowa, not OKST. Need to eat more.Not true........I only have one side!
Perhaps not throwing in ‘goofs’ and insulting the general intelligence may lead to more ‘rational’ discussions? Just a thought.Come on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestling
matches since the 60s. I am not the only person on this message who can make those claims.
As far as the past decade, yeah we are king of the mountain. The goofs on HR have had a decade plus to get used to the order change. To be honest, Iowa wrestling is always present in their competition's mind and always represented by their fans but for the past 11 years they have a single championship and a single runner-up finish. It isn't even like they have been frequently knocking on the door. Hell, go back 2 decades - 4 championships. The Iowa that Iowa fans envision hasn't existed for more than 2 decades.
By who? Give me one name. I'll wait.Not true. Rational is encouraged..........
Z
State, or states? What say Z?I meant new to being a dominate figure in the sport.
Z
Tough pill to swallaw right there.Come on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestling
matches since the 60s. I am not the only person on this message who can make those claims.
As far as the past decade, yeah we are king of the mountain. The goofs on HR have had a decade plus to get used to the order change. To be honest, Iowa wrestling is always present in their competition's mind and always represented by their fans but for the past 11 years they have a single championship and a single runner-up finish. It isn't even like they have been frequently knocking on the door. Hell, go back 2 decades - 4 championships. The Iowa that Iowa fans envision hasn't existed for more than 2 decades.
Like Bo said "Iowa is not relevant".Come on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestling
matches since the 60s. I am not the only person on this message who can make those claims.
As far as the past decade, yeah we are king of the mountain. The goofs on HR have had a decade plus to get used to the order change. To be honest, Iowa wrestling is always present in their competition's mind and always represented by their fans but for the past 11 years they have a single championship and a single runner-up finish. It isn't even like they have been frequently knocking on the door. Hell, go back 2 decades - 4 championships. The Iowa that Iowa fans envision hasn't existed for more than 2 decades.
Not true. Rational is encouraged..........
Z
Posted on hr board because i believed that i could actually discuss wrestling lol. Found out real quick, that unless your a total nut job Iowa fan you really cannot discuss wrestling there. Unfortunately I went back and antagonized a bit. We do have our own douchbags here but now where near whats over there. I do go read their ridiculous post for entertainment. Like all Iowa wresters are undersized and injured. I get it when your not the top dog after a history of being that, you need excuses to justify what’s happening. Iowa wrestling will always be a good product but its not the Gable era anymore.
There are plenty of Iowa Fans that would probably reciprocate those exact words back about this forum as well.
Two passionate fan bases. you guys are basically new to the party (in the last decade) and Iowa fans don't like it. Completely understandable.
Mike
Not taking a Zierath or nitlion side on the posts above. I will say that Mike has a point, as Penn State fans (a minority) have chest-thumped on HR more and more as the titles rolled in. No argument from me on that point. It has, at times been tasteless too.Come on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestling
matches since the 60s. I am not the only person on this message who can make those claims.
As far as the past decade, yeah we are king of the mountain. The goofs on HR have had a decade plus to get used to the order change. To be honest, Iowa wrestling is always present in their competition's mind and always represented by their fans but for the past 11 years they have a single championship and a single runner-up finish. It isn't even like they have been frequently knocking on the door. Hell, go back 2 decades - 4 championships. The Iowa that Iowa fans envision hasn't existed for more than 2 decades.
Not taking a Zierath or nitlion side on the posts above. I will say that Mike has a point, as Penn State fans (a minority) have chest-thumped on HR more and more as the titles rolled in. No argument from me on that point. It has, at times been tasteless too.
HR, with the most cesspool-dwelling of a mostly respectful fan base (my experience) as the occupants, hasn't dealt well with being second fiddle.
Both fan bases can own some of the hateful, vile, angry, mean-spirited, over-the-top rhetoric. Give me the old-fashioned banter that accompanies respectful rivalries.
I can't believe Penn State allows Cael's PC to go behind a pay wall. I also can't believe Flo keeps it behind a pay wall.Was curious, is this a press conference or was this just a general interview done by Flo after the match? Find it kinda weird that FLO put it behind a paywall. If this was a press conference with other news outlets can this been seen somewhere else? I refuse to ever give Flo another penny.
Here, lets spin this another way......and I'm only stating the obviousCome on dude. Penn State wrestling fans are not new to the party (last decade). I have had season tickets to Penn State wrestling since the late 80s. I have attended Penn State wrestling
matches since the 60s. I am not the only person on this message who can make those claims.
As far as the past decade, yeah we are king of the mountain. The goofs on HR have had a decade plus to get used to the order change. To be honest, Iowa wrestling is always present in their competition's mind and always represented by their fans but for the past 11 years they have a single championship and a single runner-up finish. It isn't even like they have been frequently knocking on the door. Hell, go back 2 decades - 4 championships. The Iowa that Iowa fans envision hasn't existed for more than 2 decades.
Maybe Mike will be back to explain himself. Frankly, some of your most recent posts have surprised me.Yes, banter is good. Purdue beer pictures, not so good.
Yeah I don’t get it either.I can't believe Penn State allows Cael's PC to go behind a pay wall. I also can't believe Flo keeps it behind a pay wall.
Did I?Then why did u ban me asshat? One Purdue beer picture. Rational and HR don't belong in the same sentence. Thin skinned much?
Cali N.
At least 4 of us.Is there another mod in the asylum over there? No bans for the pedophiles. Asshat.
Cali N