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Can the recruiter Franklin become the head coach Franklin?

FTR I hate the way we punt. period. I hate the picket fence thing. the reason is, you are covering with 7 and they have 11!! (the 3 pp and the Punter dont really count). I said that earlier as well. So relative to coaching, I thing that is something that needs looked it. I think they need to look at who is on the punt cover team. I see the same guy(s) making the same kind of mistakes, year over year. So there is that.

Feel the same way about the directional kickoffs as you do about the punting.
 
That's why I don't post here much anymore. Too many emotional kool aide drinkers. Always defend what we have by looking at the past and those problems. Be satisfied everyone we won 9 games. I guess I can make that excuse at my work. I guess I really don't give a shit anymore. I follow the wrestling now more. If you go over on that site no one even wants to talk about the football.

I’m think you are a bit “emotional” right now.
 
All the excitement of the early signing day compared with the performance of the team a couple of weeks later. Quite the contrast. He's a solid recruiter. Can he become a solid head coach?
In CFB, coaches seem to break into 3 major categories, 1s, 2s and 3s. It’s oftentimes hard to know 1s from 2s until they get their shot at being head coaches, and 2s from quality 3s until they get more responsibility.

CJF already is a solid 1 coach. 90% of those who recognize room for improvement agree he’s a 1. Muschamp, Zook, Richt, Kiffin, Strong, weis, Chow and many others are/were 2s. And some 2s are successful enough with quality assistants around them.

CJF lost several quality assistants and some top roster talent last offseason and didn’t replace them with equivalents. He’s not a 1 like Meyer, Saban, Stoops, Joe (especially Joe the younger), Bowden, Carroll, etc. At least not yet. But he’s a 1 and he’s still relatively young. He needs more quality 2s and 3s, either hiring them or developing them, but it’s not like he hasn’t got it.
 
Between the fake punt, the punt return for a touchdown, the blocked field goal, the missed field goal, the dropped passes and the bad passes they were not ready to play yesterday. This should have been a fairly easy victory if they play close to four quarters of football. That's on the head coach. I had no problem with the field goal at the end - with the two "injury" time outs for Kentucky the momentum had been lost on offense. The defense needed to make a hold and couldn't do it when it mattered most.
 
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LOL -- You don't even realize, do you?

1. We lost.
2. You make a post crying about "His coaching decisions on the field are terrible. Everyone I'm around knows it and says it. Taking a field goal at the end of a game with 4 min left? I want someone who will play it straight up and knows coaching 101."
3. Some posters, who understand the game and big picture better than you, calmly explain to you how you're simply wrong in your criticism RE the field goal with four minutes left and, ironically, it's your inability to separate your emotion (let down) that is clouding your ability to see it.
4. Your response is to cry about "too many emotional kool aide drinkers."

You're so emotional about this, 1) You can't see that those with calmer/clearer heads are trying to help you understand the flaw in your thinking; and 2) You're projecting your inability to control your emotions on those who are trying to help you.

Boulder, I dare say that Joe Paterno would have done the same thing sir.

Joe always relied on his defense; it just did not work out. And mind you, he had 409 victories sir.

The MISTAKE IMO, is not doing an on-sides kick after kicking the FG.
 
Here are my observation's on the game.
Penn State looked a little flat where Kentucky looked upbeat and played with a bit more intensity. When Penn State went down 0-10 then I saw a sense of urgency.

Penn State and Coach Franklin had the better athletes, especially in skill positions but Kentucky and Mark Stoops had a better game plan. They took less chances and ate up clock by allowing a stout offensive line to lead the way for a darn good RB. Both defenses played lights out.

Personally speaking I like Coach Franklin. I think he is a tremendous recruiter and a solid program builder. Next year Penn State will have a mature team with the only real question mark being the QB position. Let's see if the coaching staff can develop a solid QB to fit into Coach Franklin's spread offense. JMHO

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes and no.

Kentucky had THE two best athletes on the field. One on offense and one on defense.

Their D-Line was BIG too!
 
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes and no.

Kentucky had THE two best athletes on the field. One on offense and one on defense.

Their D-Line was BIG too!
Yes indeed, the entire defense had size and speed. Still the Penn State offense was able to pick them apart when the momentum changed in the 4th QTR. The play calling was solid until they got in the red zone. Then there was a hiccup in play calling. There's nothing wrong with a tough loss if you learn from it and make sure that if there's a next time you'll know what to do. Next year is the test.

I stand by what I said about coach Franklin. I think he's a great recruiter and will developing these kids into elite athletes. He clearly recruits for speed and toughness which fits his football ideology.
 
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I don't know why it's unfair to note that JF is a fabulous recruiter, and at the same time suggest that his actual coaching is not at the same level. Making an observation such as this does not mean I am insane, nor an overreactor. It's not like yesterday's coaching performance was an anomaly. We are at the point where we almost expect some coaching screw-ups.

It could all be much worse. We could have Jim Harbaugh as coach
 
WTF are you talking about? You don't EVER see him get emotional on the sidelines. EVER!!!

THE DEFENSE FORCED TWO THREE AND OUTS THE PREVIOUS POSSESSIONS. WE HAD FOUR MINUTES AND THREE TIMEOUTS. The correct percentage play was to kick the field goal and get a stop. At worst, it's a coin flip decision.

You are absolutely correct that the field goal was the correct percentage play. The problem I have is that everyone here that disagrees flat out assumes we would have converted the 4th and 6. It was not a given. Kick the field goal, stop them and have Trace put us in a position to tie or win. Assuming we stop them on defense, which didn’t happen
 
All the excitement of the early signing day compared with the performance of the team a couple of weeks later. Quite the contrast. He's a solid recruiter. Can he become a solid head coach?
It'll never happen to the satisfaction of many here. He doesn't deserve us.
 
You are absolutely correct that the field goal was the correct percentage play. The problem I have is that everyone here that disagrees flat out assumes we would have converted the 4th and 6. It was not a given. Kick the field goal, stop them and have Trace put us in a position to tie or win. Assuming we stop them on defense, which didn’t happen
The great thing about coaching here is that you always convert on 4th and 6.
 
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