Cliff Kean Las Vegas Wrestling Tournament
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I roll stogies near Chattanooga and love the Scuffle, but, I’m beginning to wonder if Keen might be a better early challenge of our young bucks. Trust in Cael for sure. Just sayin!
I strongly agree. Gable is a beast and we could have had him but the Coaches must think Seth is the real deal as well. A guy at work told me they wrestled a couple times years ago and they were very close matches. I do think Seth will improve more then Gable. Guess we will see if it's enough. He wanted him last year but Gable was a no show.
Micah apparently gassed Ashnault from bottom.
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Ash wins but what was up with that 3rd period? I realize Jordan is elite but 3 takedowns in the 3rd?
Ash was gassed, takes a lot of effort to ride like he did in the first. Needs to fix that a little for the rematch
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Ash wins but what was up with that 3rd period? I realize Jordan is elite but 3 takedowns in the 3rd?
Ash was gassed, takes a lot of effort to ride like he did in the first. Needs to fix that a little for the rematch
Results of the finals:
125:
Sebastian Rivera (NW) over Ronnie Bresser (Oregon St), 6-4
133:
Nick Suriano (Rutgers) 11 over Miky Philippi (Pitt), 11-3
141:
Joey McKenna (Ohio St) over Jaydin Eierman (Mizzou), 6-2
149:
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) over Micah Jordan (Ohio St), 14-10
157:
Ryan Deakin (NW) over Griffin Parriott (Purdue), 8-2
165:
Isaiah White (Nebraska) over Mekhi Lewis (VT), 2-0
174:
Myles Amine (Michigan) over Daniel Lewis (Mizzou), 10-7
184:
Myles Martin (Ohio St) over Taylor Venz (Nebraska), 11-5
197:
Kollin Moore (Ohio St) over Eric Schultz (Nebraska), 8-3
285:
Gable Steveson (Minny) over Tate Orndorff (Utah Valley), 12-4
125:
Sebastian Rivera (NW) over Ronnie Bresser (Oregon St), 6-4
133:
Nick Suriano (Rutgers) 11 over Miky Philippi (Pitt), 11-3
141:
Joey McKenna (Ohio St) over Jaydin Eierman (Mizzou), 6-2
149:
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) over Micah Jordan (Ohio St), 14-10
157:
Ryan Deakin (NW) over Griffin Parriott (Purdue), 8-2
165:
Isaiah White (Nebraska) over Mekhi Lewis (VT), 2-0
174:
Myles Amine (Michigan) over Daniel Lewis (Mizzou), 10-7
184:
Myles Martin (Ohio St) over Taylor Venz (Nebraska), 11-5
197:
Kollin Moore (Ohio St) over Eric Schultz (Nebraska), 8-3
285:
Gable Steveson (Minny) over Tate Orndorff (Utah Valley), 12-4
We tried to get Gable along with every other top 10 program, but he wanted to stay home. Seth although very solid, is not in Gable's league. I think on balance Seth will develop to be a little better than his big bro. Just look at who Seth has lost to at the Clarion open and who Gable is already beating. They are not close. Likewise we would not have pursued Kirk has we thought Seth had a ceiling anywhere close to Gable. Seth is definitely AA material and that is probably good enough, but over the next 5 years the top 4 are going to be very very good.
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Too many Big Ten teams for my liking.
We’ll see almost all of these Big Ten teams down the road.
I like the Scuffle. Get to see some interesting non-conference squads incl Okie St.
Just an opinion that isn't informed nor educated, just a wild guess - if Okie State and PSU continue to return annually to the Scuffle (no Italy trips, no Big10 duals the first weekend after the New Year) teams will begin returning to the Scuffle to get exposure to the Cowboys and Lions.
I also have an opinion that is neither informed or educated.....but I will bet a night of beer that a South Beach Vacation in Florida will easily outvote a trip to Tennessee to grapple with Okie State and Penn State. If you look at the team schedules.....there is plenty of recreational time built in to enjoy Florida in early January.. I say it gets bigger instead of smaller.
There are definitely easier things to do than compete with the Nits and Cowboys, but if you have national aspirations you need to measure yourself to identify areas that may need improvement.
Who knows? It will take several years to see.
Didn't Cornell used to come (maybe they still do?) to the Scuffle? I'd like to consistently see PSU, Okie St., a team like Cornell and throw in a VT or NCST as well. Don't need a bunch of BIG Ten teams there, but would like a few top 15-20 programs to give the guys multiple tough matches.
Have to remember the room he practices in and who MIGHT be there to push him daily. A definite disadvantage for elite guys when going against elite competition.Micah apparently gassed Ashnault from bottom.
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Ash wins but what was up with that 3rd period? I realize Jordan is elite but 3 takedowns in the 3rd?
Ash was gassed, takes a lot of effort to ride like he did in the first. Needs to fix that a little for the rematch
Koll talks a lot, but he doesn’t want none anymore. The Truth destroying Lewnes was the first sign
Doesn’t it seem like Koll and co. are angling to turn South Beach Duals into a dual national tourney?Doubt they’ll return to the Scuffle as long as that event is successful. Also highly doubt he’d avoid facing PSU wrestlers as a decision point.
It isn't the same as when PSU started going to the Scuffle, but the Scuffle used to give the Lions a diverse look at the competition. As someone else posted I doubt you will see the Lions traveling to Las Vegas simply because it is Big10 heavy. I believe Cael and Smith will try convincing some other programs to give the Scuffle another go.
Not a chance. The South Beach Duals is, for most of the teams involved, a working vacation first and a wrestling meet second. That's something that can't even be said about Cliff Keen. Turning the SBD into a dual national tournament would jeopardize that.
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