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Coach K "calls out" the NCAA

Completely agree. Besides, so what if elite players skip college and go to the G League. Why would that make college basketball and the NCAA tournament any less exciting?
Because the quality of players would be less. Tell me you don't see that completely obvious point.
 
How do you know what motivates a complete stranger? Never underestimate the power of millions of dollars. Far less cash has motivated far worse behavior.
And how do you know? Again, you are another poor soul that has never met someone who is just a good person. Your life sucks.
 
Because the quality of players would be less. Tell me you don't see that completely obvious point.
Major college football teams draw more fans than NFL teams. I think everybody knows that the college players aren't as good.
 
I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays their coach)

I don't doubt Coach K loves his players and wants them to be successful but the current NCAA model is all about money on the macro level. Everyone knows that.

Then why does he say anything...according to your logic...smh.
 
i just want to see CBB and CFB players be real students who will graduate at a rate like other students at their school - and essentially be student - athletes. NCAA could do this be cracking down on the rules the schools have to follow around academic performance.

^^^ This ^^^

I don't many people would stop watching college sports if a handful of high school kids decided to turn pro right out of high school.
 
I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays their coach)

I don't doubt Coach K loves his players and wants them to be successful but the current NCAA model is all about money on the macro level. Everyone knows that.
Uh, I am pretty sure he could get an NBA job if he wanted/needed to do so. He
likes coaching in college for the same reason that Paterno did, and it ain’t for the money. Considering you are a Penn State fan, it is hard for me to understand how you can’t see that.
 
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The impact of allowing high school players to be drafted is entireLy overrated and will likely only be felt at a few schools, Duke being one. Kentucky and UNC being others.

College basketball and the NBA survived when this was the case before and will again. While there may be a year or two of sorting out, when every 5 star HS player thinks he can be a pro, right now, the reality is that probably less than 5, more likely 2-3 will wind up on an NBA team in the year following high school. Also, probably 90-95%, or more, of the players in the G League will be better than the next level of high school players in any given year. In total, maybe 20 players a year will go directly to the “pros”. A huge % will still benefit, physically and emotionally, from at least another year of development at the college level.

The only thing that will change this is if the G league adds a second tier, which is unlikely to happen. Why would the NBA fund another level of minor leagues when colleges already provide this?

The only reason Coach K is complaining is because he will need to change his recruiting strategy again. Once you go the one and done route, you are locked in to it. You start getting huge holes in your class distribution from which it takes several years to recover. That is why he wants a transition or delay. Not for the players but for himself.

From under what rocks do you people come from?

He is and has been challenging the system he has been given. At this point in his life he doesn’t give a moment’s thought to what you are talking about. He’s saying the current system is so far off the road that something radical needs to be done. And he has been saying it for years on his podcasts.

It’s f’ing unbelievable how utterly stupid the masses are at times.
 
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Then why does he recruit the one and done players?

Because that’s the system he’s in.

Should he shut the door on a recruit that wants to attend Duke?

I’m no Duke fan but he’s competing with everyone else within the rules.

You do realize Duke provides a lifetime guarantee to all of their basketball players - they can return to get their degree at any time.
 
I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays their coach)

I don't doubt Coach K loves his players and wants them to be successful but the current NCAA model is all about money on the macro level. Everyone knows that.

Good lord, Coach K is 72 years old. He has more money than he knows what to do with, along with the respect, admiration and appreciation of anyone associated with college/Olympic basketball. The future course of college basketball will have no impact on his financial security. Yet, you initially claim that he speaks from a position of financial motivation, and then change course and assert that you don't care what his motivation is.
 
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Uh, I am pretty sure he could get an NBA job if he wanted/needed to do so. He
likes coaching in college for the same reason that Paterno did, and it ain’t for the money. Considering you are a Penn State fan, it is hard for me to understand how you can’t see that.

I never claimed K couldn't have landed an NBA job. I'm sure he could have.
 
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Good lord, Coach K is 72 years old. He has more money than he knows what to do with, along with the respect, admiration and appreciation of anyone associated with college/Olympic basketball. The future course of college basketball will have no impact on his financial security. Yet, you initially claim that he speaks from a position of financial motivation, and then change course and assert that you don't care what his motivation is.

I'm sure he has a motivation. That doesn't mean I should know or care what it is.
 
Good question. You should ask him.

I can if you want. But it’s obvious he spoke up at a NCAA event (presser) because he could and knew it would be impactful. One of the perks of being great and older is that you can speak up without repercussions.
 
Good question. You should ask him.
Good question? It seemed like rhetorical question.

He speaks out because he cares about basketball and especially about college basketball. If he were in it for the money or personal glory, would he have coached the USA Basketball team to 3 Olympic Gold Medals and 2 FIBA World Championships?
 
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Coach K with another “one and done” experiment gone wrong!
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!!
 
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Good question? It seemed like rhetorical question.

He speaks out because he cares about basketball and especially about college basketball. If he were in it for the money or personal glory, would he have coached the USA Basketball team to 3 Olympic Gold Medals and 2 FIBA World Championships?

Fair enough. The linked article quotes him as saying the NCAA should work to make the college route a more attractive option for elite prep players. My question is, why should the NCAA do this and who would it benefit? I say an elite high school basketball player should be able to monetize his skills as soon as he graduates. Why should the NCAA or NBA force a kid to attend college? It's a situation different from football where 99% of high school football players aren't in the same universe of physical development as an NFL player. And before you go there, yes, I think the NFL should spend some of their own money for player development instead of getting a freebie from college programs.
 
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Fair enough. The linked article quotes him as saying the NCAA should work to make the college route a more attractive option for elite prep players. My question is, why should the NCAA do this and who would it benefit? I say an elite high school basketball player should be able to monetize his skills as soon as he graduates. Why should the NCAA or NBA force a kid to attend college? It's a situation different from football where 99% of high school football players aren't in the same universe of physical development as an NFL player. And before you go there, yes, I think the NFL should spend some of their own money for player development instead of getting a freebie from college programs.

A rule change is a given. Not exactly sure when it will begin (possibly with high school class of 2022?) but Adam Silver has talked about it and there is a general consensus in favor of a change.

Details? Seems very likely that a high school grad will have the opportunity to enter the NBA draft if he chooses or even to go directly with an NBA sponsored G-League team if not drafted. Could a kid go to college if didn't like his draft position? If he starts in college, does he have a two-year minimum for example, or could go pro after 1 year?

Things may change, but some of the best players may still prefer to go to college for one or more years. A guy like Zion got value, both personal and long-range financial value from attending Duke for one year.

Coach K rightly realizes this change is coming, and wants the transition to be good for the kids and the game as a whole. He will continue to recruit the most talented players available who are interested in at least one year of college.
 
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Coach K with another “one and done” experiment gone wrong!
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!!

Found this over on the UNC board. I think you will like it.


K is a self serving, egotistical, prick that uses people. And he’s become a pretty ordinary coach over the past 6-8 years of his career. He’s lazy now and relies on bringing in top talent, forsaking the principles he once stood steadfastly for, and berating referees to win games. Screw him. I wish nothing but failure for him.

:eek::D:eek:
 
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A rule change is a given. Not exactly sure when it will begin (possibly with high school class of 2022?) but Adam Silver has talked about it and there is a general consensus in favor of a change.

Details? Seems very likely that a high school grad will have the opportunity to enter the NBA draft if he chooses or even to go directly with an NBA sponsored G-League team if not drafted. Could a kid go to college if didn't like his draft position? If he starts in college, does he have a two-year minimum for example, or could go pro after 1 year?

Things may change, but some of the best players may still prefer to go to college for one or more years. A guy like Zion got value, both personal and long-range financial value from attending Duke for one year.

Coach K rightly realizes this change is coming, and wants the transition to be good for the kids and the game as a whole. He will continue to recruit the most talented players available who are interested in at least one year of college.

I smell retirement SOON after this failure.
 
Found this over on the UNC board. I think you will like it.


K is a self serving, egotistical, prick that uses people. And he’s become a pretty ordinary coach over the past 6-8 years of his career. He’s lazy now and relies on bringing in top talent, forsaking the principles he once stood steadfastly for, and berating referees to win games. Screw him. I wish nothing but failure for him.

:eek::D:eek:
Yup! He wins on talent alone(in which Ryan Day is gonna realize very soon)!!!!
 
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Found this over on the UNC board. I think you will like it.


K is a self serving, egotistical, prick that uses people. And he’s become a pretty ordinary coach over the past 6-8 years of his career. He’s lazy now and relies on bringing in top talent, forsaking the principles he once stood steadfastly for, and berating referees to win games. Screw him. I wish nothing but failure for him.

:eek::D:eek:

About as spot on as it gets, Glov. 3 top-10 picks and not a final 4 appearance to show for it. I know a win is a win, but damn, what an unimpressive tournament for the Dookies.
 
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Found this over on the UNC board. I think you will like it.


K is a self serving, egotistical, prick that uses people. And he’s become a pretty ordinary coach over the past 6-8 years of his career. He’s lazy now and relies on bringing in top talent, forsaking the principles he once stood steadfastly for, and berating referees to win games. Screw him. I wish nothing but failure for him.

:eek::D:eek:
You’re just a little late wishing failure on Coach K. He is one of the most successful in history!
 
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Found this over on the UNC board. I think you will like it.


K is a self serving, egotistical, prick that uses people. And he’s become a pretty ordinary coach over the past 6-8 years of his career. He’s lazy now and relies on bringing in top talent, forsaking the principles he once stood steadfastly for, and berating referees to win games. Screw him. I wish nothing but failure for him.

:eek::D:eek:
And the rest of college basketball relies on bringing in middle to low talent. I don’t get you guys. Why is everybody so down on Penn State coaches bringing in 3 stars. Why get lazy and bring in 5 star athletes?!!!! Then there’s no coaching involved!
 
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