Coach K "calls out" the NCAA

[Delco Lion]

Feels the NCAA isn't ready for "one and done" and the future of college hoops.

https://sports.yahoo.com/coach-k-ca...-vision-for-college-basketball-004351154.html

 

[Nitt1300]

"One and done" certainly shouldn't be called "college" basketball.

 

[rmem]

"One and done" certainly shouldn't be called "college" basketball.

You don't think "college" football is heading the same way? Look at how many of our own players have gone pro a year sooner than they should have. It will end up the same way eventually.

 

[Nitt1300]

You don't think "college" football is heading the same way? Look at how many of our own players have gone pro a year sooner than they should have. It will end up the same way eventually.

I agree.

 

[BobPSU92]

From the article:

"That's why Krzyzewski called for some leadership to emerge that can show recruits that college basketball can remain a top attraction for elite recruits."

Leadership to emerge within the ncaa? It's desperately needed but unlikely to happen. Same with Penn State.

 

[PSUArnie]

The NCAA is clearly losing all control and it's only a matter of time before they're completely out of the equation.

 

[LioninNC]

Amazing. Coach K thinks there’s a lack of leadership in the NCAA. Is he not aware of all the “fantastic” things Mark Emmert has been doing over the years? How does this man keep his job?

 

[Nitt1300]

The fact that he thinks that the NBA should actually have a voice in "college" basketball says it all.

 

[Diego Badman]

You don't think "college" football is heading the same way? Look at how many of our own players have gone pro a year sooner than they should have. It will end up the same way eventually.

Absolutely, and the fact that college stars will skip their bowl games is very revealing.

 

[Delco Lion]

The fact that he thinks that the NBA should actually have a voice in "college" basketball says it all.

What could go wrong?? ....lol

 

[NittPicker]

I'll assume I'm in the minority in asking, "What's the big deal if the current college basketball system DOES fall apart?" Coach K is speaking as a guy who has made millions from the current system. Of course he doesn't want it to fail. And so what if the popularity of March Madness craters? It would financially devastate the NCAA. That's good. I think we'd all survive if college basketball fell in line with college baseball. If a high school kid wants a paycheck from playing basketball he can enter a minor league and see where his skills take him. He also has the college option with the understanding he can't be drafted until "x" number of years have passed.

Of course none of that will be possible unless the NBA establishes a viable minor league system and does something similar to the MLB model. The NCAA is currently at the mercy of whatever the NBA chooses to do. The below rules regarding the draft are from the MLB website....

Certain groups of players are ineligible for selection, generally because they are still in school. The basic categories of players eligible to be drafted are:

• High school players, if they have graduated from high school and have not yet attended college or junior college;
• College players, from four-year colleges who have either completed their junior or senior years or are at least 21 years old; and
• Junior college players, regardless of how many years of school they have completed

 

[rmem]

Coach K is speaking as a guy who has made millions from the current system. Of course he doesn't want it to fail.

That isn't his motivation, any more than it would have been for Paterno. That makes the rest of your post null and void.

Sometimes I think many people have never met a person in their life that was simply a good person. Regardless of their position or stature.

 

[AWS1022]

I'll assume I'm in the minority in asking, "What's the big deal if the current college basketball system DOES fall apart?" Coach K is speaking as a guy who has made millions from the current system. Of course he doesn't want it to fail. And so what if the popularity of March Madness craters? It would financially devastate the NCAA. That's good. I think we'd all survive if college basketball fell in line with college baseball. If a high school kid wants a paycheck from playing basketball he can enter a minor league and see where his skills take him. He also has the college option with the understanding he can't be drafted until "x" number of years have passed.

Of course none of that will be possible unless the NBA establishes a viable minor league system and does something similar to the MLB model. The NCAA is currently at the mercy of whatever the NBA chooses to do.

Or the NCAA could make all scholarships count against the school for four years whether someone leaves early or not. That would force coaches to take fewer one and done players.

 

[AWS1022]

That isn't his motivation, any more than it would have been for Paterno. That makes the rest of your post null and void.

Sometimes I think many people have never met a person in their life that was simply a good person. Regardless of their position or stature.

And posters get mad about people who have become the best in their field and get paid a lot of money. I don’t get it.

 

[NittPicker]

That isn't his motivation, any more than it would have been for Paterno. That makes the rest of your post null and void.

Sometimes I think many people have never met a person in their life that was simply a good person. Regardless of their position or stature.

I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays their coach)

I don't doubt Coach K loves his players and wants them to be successful but the current NCAA model is all about money on the macro level. Everyone knows that.

 

[rmem]

I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays the coach)

How do you know that? I'm sorry you have never met a truly good person in your life.

 

[AWS1022]

I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays the coach)

And the current system has benefitted greatly from him as well.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

The NBA is very close to having a full minor league system. I think only Denver doesn’t have its own farm team. Coach K has made a living from this current set up. It’s been a cash cow for him. I honestly don’t think it’s going to last much longer. Players will go to the minor league after HS. College basketball will be like college baseball, albeit much more popular. Hopefully football ends up the same way

 

[shultz40]

The fact that he thinks that the NBA should actually have a voice in "college" basketball says it all.

Not really. The. Nba has ALWAYS had voice and there is nothing the ncaa can do about it.


NBA can draft players out of high school if the want. NBA did the ncaa a favor by not drafting players out of high school. Nba does not need the ncaa to give them a voice. The nba' s voice is the multi million dollar contracts they can legally offer.

 

[AvgUser]

Amazing. Coach K thinks there’s a lack of leadership in the NCAA. Is he not aware of all the “fantastic” things Mark Emmert has been doing over the years? How does this man keep his job?

The NCAA ceased to be relevant once it was shown that they extorted money from Penn State. I don't know the exact date, but that was the moment in time the NCAA died. The nail in the coffin was when the NCAA concluded that UNC had no academic fraud for athletes'

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[BobPSU92]

Absolutely, and the fact that college stars will skip their bowl games is very revealing.

After what happened to the Auburn player the other night, how long before star college basketball players skip the Big Dance? Many thought Zion Williamson would never play for Duke again after his knee injury.

How long before college players play in college just long enough to establish their draft position. Why play more?

 

[TheGLOV]

Feels the NCAA isn't ready for "one and done" and the future of college hoops.

https://sports.yahoo.com/coach-k-ca...-vision-for-college-basketball-004351154.html

He is the "leader of men!"

His word is "Gospel"

Pontification at its' finest.

Do not question him.

 

[TheGLOV]

I would expect that Coach K would tell you that the NBA already has - and has had, for some time - a “voice” wrt College Hoops.

Only a completely oblivious idiot, quite frankly, would say otherwise.

BINGO!

 

[NoVa Lion]

He is the "leader of men!"

His word is "Gospel"

Pontification at its' finest.

Do not question him.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[TheGLOV]

The NBA is very close to having a full minor league system. I think only Denver doesn’t have its own farm team. Coach K has made a living from this current set up. It’s been a cash cow for him. I honestly don’t think it’s going to last much longer. Players will go to the minor league after HS. College basketball will be like college baseball, albeit much more popular. Hopefully football ends up the same way

Yep!

BINGO II

 

[jughead212]

That isn't his motivation, any more than it would have been for Paterno. That makes the rest of your post null and void.

Sometimes I think many people have never met a person in their life that was simply a good person. Regardless of their position or stature.

How do you know what motivates a complete stranger? Never underestimate the power of millions of dollars. Far less cash has motivated far worse behavior.

 

[AWS1022]

How do you know what motivates a complete stranger? Never underestimate the power of millions of dollars. Far less cash has motivated far worse behavior.

Nobody gets into coaching to make millions, especially years ago when Coach K got into it.

 

[blion72]

And posters get mad about people who have become the best in their field and get paid a lot of money. I don’t get it.

i think these star players coming out of HS should get paid big time $$$$…..but not as CBB players. Let the NBA take the leadership and build up their pro developmental league. they could even provide an insurance policy for all players to cover injury and failure to make the NBA ---- which would provide say $200k in education reimbursement fund so players who wanted to go to school free later could do that path.

i just want to see CBB and CFB players be real students who will graduate at a rate like other students at their school - and essentially be student - athletes. NCAA could do this be cracking down on the rules the schools have to follow around academic performance.

i think this would be a win-win for everyone. Player comes out of HS and gets a ton of $$$, and does not have to mess with school. for elite guys this is what they want. they get nothing for playing CBB, so dump that route. schools win as they don't have to mess around with player turnover, keeping them eligible, etc. cannot see who loses.

 

[060802]

The impact of allowing high school players to be drafted is entireLy overrated and will likely only be felt at a few schools, Duke being one. Kentucky and UNC being others.

College basketball and the NBA survived when this was the case before and will again. While there may be a year or two of sorting out, when every 5 star HS player thinks he can be a pro, right now, the reality is that probably less than 5, more likely 2-3 will wind up on an NBA team in the year following high school. Also, probably 90-95%, or more, of the players in the G League will be better than the next level of high school players in any given year. In total, maybe 20 players a year will go directly to the “pros”. A huge % will still benefit, physically and emotionally, from at least another year of development at the college level.

The only thing that will change this is if the G league adds a second tier, which is unlikely to happen. Why would the NBA fund another level of minor leagues when colleges already provide this?

The only reason Coach K is complaining is because he will need to change his recruiting strategy again. Once you go the one and done route, you are locked in to it. You start getting huge holes in your class distribution from which it takes several years to recover. That is why he wants a transition or delay. Not for the players but for himself.

 

[auxgym]

Feels the NCAA isn't ready for "one and done" and the future of college hoops.

https://sports.yahoo.com/coach-k-ca...-vision-for-college-basketball-004351154.html

The guy has gotten rich operating in a cesspool of a business........he can go blow.

 

[Delco Lion]

This should help Jay Wright and his usage and development of players. His recruiting and coaching strategy won't have to change too much.

 

[blion72]

The impact of allowing high school players to be drafted is entireLy overrated and will likely only be felt at a few schools, Duke being one. Kentucky and UNC being others.

College basketball and the NBA survived when this was the case before and will again. While there may be a year or two of sorting out, when every 5 star HS player thinks he can be a pro, right now, the reality is that probably less than 5, more likely 2-3 will wind up on an NBA team in the year following high school. Also, probably 90-95%, or more, of the players in the G League will be better than the next level of high school players in any given year. In total, maybe 20 players a year will go directly to the “pros”. A huge % will still benefit, physically and emotionally, from at least another year of development at the college level.

The only thing that will change this is if the G league adds a second tier, which is unlikely to happen. Why would the NBA fund another level of minor leagues when colleges already provide this?

The only reason Coach K is complaining is because he will need to change his recruiting strategy again. Once you go the one and done route, you are locked in to it. You start getting huge holes in your class distribution from which it takes several years to recover. That is why he wants a transition or delay. Not for the players but for himself.

your third paragraph is the key.....what would motivate the NBA to make the G league "real", so elite HS players come out at say $500k per year comp. having a high comp G league will get most of them to go G league rather than CBB. this will cost NBA, BUT they would be stuck if the NCAA enforced all the academic rules on the colleges. I hear that one of the Duke FR could barely read and write, so how can he be up to taking ANY course at a school like Duke?

 

[royboy]

your third paragraph is the key.....what would motivate the NBA to make the G league "real", so elite HS players come out at say $500k per year comp. having a high comp G league will get most of them to go G league rather than CBB. this will cost NBA, BUT they would be stuck if the NCAA enforced all the academic rules on the colleges. I hear that one of the Duke FR could barely read and write, so how can he be up to taking ANY course at a school like Duke?

Which Duke freshman is that?

Do you have a link?

 

[Delco Lion]

Which Duke freshman is that?

Do you have a link?

You can rule out Cam Reddish. He went to the Haverford School and Westtown School. No way he is the one.

 

[Art]

You can rule out Cam Reddish. He went to the Haverford School and Westtown School. No way he is the one.

Four of the five went to very good private schools and the other attended a highly rated public high school. Sounds like bullshit to me.

 

[Waltwam]

I've never met Coach K and his motivation isn't important to me. But it's a fact he has benefited greatly from the current system. Would he be saying the same things if he was coaching at Lock Haven and getting paid $100,000/year? (or whatever it is LHU pays their coach)

I don't doubt Coach K loves his players and wants them to be successful but the current NCAA model is all about money on the macro level. Everyone knows that.

Every coach has benefited off the current system. Not all have made millions. Does that mean there are no coaches who are truly good people who care about their kids?

 

[marshall23]

He is the "leader of men!"

His word is "Gospel"

Pontification at its' finest.

Do not question him.

The NCAA might as well be led by Howdy Doodie, with Buffalo Bob's hand up his wooden ass.

 

[bdgan]

"One and done" certainly shouldn't be called "college" basketball.

Completely agree. Besides, so what if elite players skip college and go to the G League. Why would that make college basketball and the NCAA tournament any less exciting?

 

[bison13]

Four of the five went to very good private schools and the other attended a highly rated public high school. Sounds like bullshit to me.

Not that going to a private school (ST Frances in Baltimore comes to mind) means you are intelligent but this does seem like sour grapes from a UNC fan.

 

[jughead212]

Nobody gets into coaching to make millions, especially years ago when Coach K got into it.

True, but once you start making millions you will do a whole lot of stuff you would have never thought possible to keep the gravy train running.