Coaching strategy and adjustments

[kps7987]

I’m sure we all remember the strategy RBY used to counter Desanto but now it seems RBY has surpassed Desanto. If they were to wrestle 10 times I would pick RBY all 10.

when I saw Keek wrestle Paris they talked about tying up the wrist. They look to me that if they wrestled 10 times Kerk would win all.
For you coaches. Can Paris make a simple adjustment for the next match which evens the playing field or does tying up that wrist significantly place him in a disadvantage? I don’t see Parris winning wrestling from space.

 

[SJP80]

sure....don't let him tie up your wrist. Desanto has no control over what RBY does with his arm. Parris can try to stop control of his wrist.

 

[Junglekitty]

I’m sure we all remember the strategy RBY used to counter Desanto but now it seems RBY has surpassed Desanto. If they were to wrestle 10 times I would pick RBY all 10.

when I saw Keek wrestle Paris they talked about tying up the wrist. They look to me that if they wrestled 10 times Kerk would win all.
For you coaches. Can Paris make a simple adjustment for the next match which evens the playing field or does tying up that wrist significantly place him in a disadvantage? I don’t see Parris winning wrestling from space.

To answer your question, yes there are a few simple adjustments that could help Parris in his match with Kerk. For one, he let Kerk stay engaged with him and get wrist control. Also, I believe he was a left leg lead which is obviously the leg Kerk snagged. Simple adjustments would be wrestle from space, pick up your hand fighting, pick up your footwork ( possibly come out in a right lead ). These are all the things I would be stressing to Parris before their next match ( if they meet again ).

The problem however, is this time Parris ran into a healthy Kerk. I am sure that Cael and co had a backup plan that were going to use in the event Parris deployed any one of the above mentioned. Parris is a great athlete and wrestler. I see every match they wrestle be similar to last Friday.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

To answer your question, yes there are a few simple adjustments that could help Parris in his match with Kerk. For one, he let Kerk stay engaged with him and get wrist control. Also, I believe he was a left leg lead which is obviously the leg Kerk snagged. Simple adjustments would be wrestle from space, pick up your hand fighting, pick up your footwork ( possibly come out in a right lead ). These are all the things I would be stressing to Parris before their next match ( if they meet again ).

The problem however, is this time Parris ran into a healthy Kerk. I am sure that Cael and co had a backup plan that were going to use in the event Parris deployed any one of the above mentioned. Parris is a great athlete and wrestler. I see every match they wrestle be similar to last Friday.

Strange that the matches Parris DOES lose, he looks totally lost.

 

[El-Jefe]

To answer your question, yes there are a few simple adjustments that could help Parris in his match with Kerk. For one, he let Kerk stay engaged with him and get wrist control. Also, I believe he was a left leg lead which is obviously the leg Kerk snagged. Simple adjustments would be wrestle from space, pick up your hand fighting, pick up your footwork ( possibly come out in a right lead ). These are all the things I would be stressing to Parris before their next match ( if they meet again ).

This is all true, and to Kerk's benefit.

Most of these adjustments take Parris' top weapon (the fireman's dump) away from him. Advantage: Kerk.

Parris is obviously very good without the dump, but any time you can take away an opponent's top weapon, you're more likely to win.

 

[kps7987]

Does PSU have a wrestler (only referring to those that are ranked 5 or higher) that can be neutralized by a single technique or does the coaching focus on a variety of attacks?

 

[82bordeaux]

The problem however, is this time Parris ran into a healthy Kerk. I am sure that Cael and co had a backup plan that were going to use in the event Parris deployed any one of the above mentioned. Parris is a great athlete and wrestler. I see every match they wrestle be similar to last Friday.

Somebody on the coaching staff had a pretty good idea Kerk could get out from under Parris. I cringed when Kerk looked over to the bench and they signaled "down". I guess that's why I'm not on the staff!

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

I guess that's why I'm not on the staff!

Well, that, and you already have a full time job frequenting this forum.

 

[PSU Mike]

Somebody on the coaching staff had a pretty good idea Kerk could get out from under Parris. I cringed when Kerk looked over to the bench and they signaled "down". I guess that's why I'm not on the staff!

We know the staff prefers to take a long term view, more than most others.

 

[Dogwelder]

Well, that, and you already have a full time job frequenting this forum.

I don’t know how the mods can give Bordeaux a full ride with only 9.9 total.

It would only work if WildTurk is earning a negative salary!

 

[ss7]

This is all true, and to Kerk's benefit.

Most of these adjustments take Parris' top weapon (the fireman's dump) away from him. Advantage: Kerk.

Parris is obviously very good without the dump, but any time you can take away an opponent's top weapon, you're more likely to win.

I was amazed at how little Parris was attacking. He only really took one committed leg attack, which was at the very end of the first period.

 

[AndEEss]

I'd bet that Kerk has a significant reach advantage over Parris. It's going to be hard to Parris to advance into a position to actually score points unless he takes a step forwards, with either leg, which makes him vulnerable to that snatch single that Kerk did on him.

 

[82bordeaux]

I don’t know how the mods can give Bordeaux a full ride with only 9.9 total.

I walked on. Unfortunately the emergency exit was open and they marched me right off.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

I walked on. Unfortunately the emergency exit was open and they marched me right off.

Walked? prolly more like stumbled…

 

[82bordeaux]

Walked? prolly more like stumbled…

I've been known to take a header or two.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

I'd bet that Kerk has a significant reach advantage over Parris. It's going to be hard to Parris to advance into a position to actually score points unless he takes a step forwards, with either leg, which makes him vulnerable to that snatch single that Kerk did on him.

Did he say “snatch single”? Im pretty sure he just said “snatch single”.

 

[82bordeaux]

Did he say “snatch single”? Im pretty sure he just said “snatch single”.

 

[Centuar94]

Amazing to me that RBY has wrestled Desanto with one arm and Iowa coaches haven’t come up with a counter adjustment. 🤷. Maybe this week?

 

[RoarLions1]

No way I'd say 10 for 10 in an RBY v Desanto discussion. After being handled twice, RBY, on a steeper improvement curve AND changing strategy, has become the favorite, but Desanto is still a solid talent. 3-2 & 5-2 wins have shown the improvement in our guy, but that's not much separation.

As for taking away an opponents strength, more times than not it is easier said than done. Wrestler's go-to shots are go-to simply because they work more times than not for that wrestler. When they don't it's usually a bad match-up; talent, strength, or style-wise.

Serious question; I'm interested in hearing how many wrestlers any on this forum have seen in the past, make as dramatic a change in approach to ONE opponent as RBY has done with Desanto? I'm drawing a blank.

 

[bwfight]

I don’t know how the mods can give Bordeaux a full ride with only 9.9 total.

It would only work if WildTurk is earning a negative salary!

Perhaps that is part of Wild Turk’s service … he funds Bordeaux so we can all enjoy his GIF wizardry. Thank you for your service Turk 👍

 

[Junglekitty]

No way I'd say 10 for 10 in an RBY v Desanto discussion. After being handled twice, RBY, on a steeper improvement curve AND changing strategy, has become the favorite, but Desanto is still a solid talent. 3-2 & 5-2 wins have shown the improvement in our guy, but that's not much separation.

As for taking away an opponents strength, more times than not it is easier said than done. Wrestler's go-to shots are go-to simply because they work more times than not for that wrestler. When they don't it's usually a bad match-up; talent, strength, or style wise.

Serious question; I'm interested in hearing how many wrestlers any on this forum have seen in the past, make as dramatic a change in approach to ONE opponent as RBY has done with Desanto? I'm drawing a blank.

Good question. Most recently I would say Nick Lee with simply not choosing down. One could argue Kerk’s strategy with Parris but I’m not sure that was as much of an adjustment as it was with Kerk just being healthy. Probably a combination of the both.

We have been pretty spoiled in the fact that it has not been our guy that has needed to make the adjustments, but their opponents trying to make the adjustments to them. I can’t recall any opponent that has done one move so well that it really took our guy off their game. DeSanto hits his shot on everyone ( besides RBY lately ). But I agree with you. DeSanto is a very good and dangerous wrestler and if RBY isn’t on his game, he could 100% take a loss.

 

[kps7987]

No way I'd say 10 for 10 in an RBY v Desanto discussion. After being handled twice, RBY, on a steeper improvement curve AND changing strategy, has become the favorite, but Desanto is still a solid talent. 3-2 & 5-2 wins have shown the improvement in our guy, but that's not much separation.

As for taking away an opponents strength, more times than not it is easier said than done. Wrestler's go-to shots are go-to simply because they work more times than not for that wrestler. When they don't it's usually a bad match-up; talent, strength, or style wise.

Serious question; I'm interested in hearing how many wrestlers any on this forum have seen in the past, make as dramatic a change in approach to ONE opponent as RBY has done with Desanto? I'm drawing a blank.

So I would say we are dealing in semantics here and you are probably right in that he would not win 10 out of 10. Its just that with the combination of taking away the go to move, his improved ability to ride and the fact that his strength is to counter and Desanto is so aggressive I believe RBY has room for small errors and Desanto has to wrestle the perfect match. Anything can happen in a close match and somebody can be caught but I think the separation is greater than the typical score.

 

[RoarLions1]

So I would say we are dealing in semantics here and you are probably right in that he would not win 10 out of 10. Its just that with the combination of taking away the go to move, his improved ability to ride and the fact that his strength is to counter and Desanto is so aggressive I believe RBY has room for small errors and Desanto has to wrestle the perfect match. Anything can happen in a close match and somebody can be caught but I think the separation is greater than the typical score.

Ok I guess, but hyperbole isn't a difference in semantics. I do believe RBY could take Matt Malevsky 10 out of 10 .

 

[okinburg1]

I don’t know how the mods can give Bordeaux a full ride with only 9.9 total.

It would only work if WildTurk is earning a negative salary!

Lone Wolf doesn't have to worry about no stinking salary.
Wait, Loan Wolf? Maybe he does...

 

[GogglesPaizano]

If they were to wrestle 10 times I would pick RBY all 10.

They look to me that if they wrestled 10 times Kerk would win all.

10 of 10 versus a top 4 kid is pretty rarified (DT, Ruth, Zain, Nolf, Bo) air IMO. I don't think I could put either matchup in that category just yet. 10 of 10 conveys to me total control and mastery.

I would agree RBY is now clearly superior to AD, and from what I have seen of a fully healthy Kerk he appears a more well balanced, better wrestler than Parris.

However, either could get caught in a momentary lapse and find a point differntial they can't dig out of (See Carter vs Washington).

I would put RBY in the 8 of 10 category vs AD, and Kerk vs Parris based essentially on one match, at 6 of 10. The Bigs will indicate if Kerk gains more ground.

As stated in other replies, both will employ new strategies based upon what was revealed in this last match, and then counter strategies to those adjustments. Sorry Michigan but no one is better than Cael & Co in this department.

 

[creamery freak]

To answer your question, yes there are a few simple adjustments that could help Parris in his match with Kerk. For one, he let Kerk stay engaged with him and get wrist control. Also, I believe he was a left leg lead which is obviously the leg Kerk snagged. Simple adjustments would be wrestle from space, pick up your hand fighting, pick up your footwork ( possibly come out in a right lead ). These are all the things I would be stressing to Parris before their next match ( if they meet again ).

The problem however, is this time Parris ran into a healthy Kerk. I am sure that Cael and co had a backup plan that were going to use in the event Parris deployed any one of the above mentioned. Parris is a great athlete and wrestler. I see every match they wrestle be similar to last Friday.

I remember early that Kerk tried for a blast double, but Parris stoned him on it.
Kerk against every HWT, not named GS, has a definite quickness and most times reach advantage that's hard to counter. I remember watching guys against Ruth and they were in the same boat defensively.

 

[District four]

Amazing to me that RBY has wrestled Desanto with one arm and Iowa coaches haven’t come up with a counter adjustment. 🤷. Maybe this week?

They have desanto taps out

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Amazing to me that RBY has wrestled Desanto with one arm and Iowa coaches haven’t come up with a counter adjustment. 🤷. Maybe this week?

I expect Desanto to counter with no arms.

 

[Callthestall]

Does PSU have a wrestler (only referring to those that are ranked 5 or higher) that can be neutralized by a single technique or does the coaching focus on a variety of attacks?

I think some coaches might stay away from Dean in top position. It might not be worth trying to get the 1 point escape

 

[Dogwelder]

Amazing to me that RBY has wrestled Desanto with one arm and Iowa coaches haven’t come up with a counter adjustment. 🤷. Maybe this week?

No fair! DeSanto has been afraid to battle the armless ever since a childhood incident :

 

[El-Jefe]

I don’t know how the mods can give Bordeaux a full ride with only 9.9 total.

It would only work if WildTurk is earning a negative salary!

Only @smalls103 gets a full board ride.

@82bordeaux needs to start landing some recruits, then maybe we can upgrade from stumble-on to beer money.

 

[SRATH]

Somebody on the coaching staff had a pretty good idea Kerk could get out from under Parris. I cringed when Kerk looked over to the bench and they signaled "down". I guess that's why I'm not on the staff!

All I could think of is……….Frank, nooooooo!

 

[ac98]

If the dual meet was on the line, they may have made a different choice wit kerk. With the dual locked up it made total sense for Kerk to choose bottom. If he gets ridden out and loses, then in the Big or NCAAs they know his capabilities. Now if it’s a 0-0, 0-1 match when kerk has choice he knows he can go down and get out.

 

[Cowbell Man]

I was amazed at how little Parris was attacking. He only really took one committed leg attack, which was at the very end of the first period.

That is effectively what Kerks wrist control was doing. Unable to free it regularly, if Parris decides to attack low, it’s with one hand, leaving the right hand and arm flying. Flying arms on a low attack are grounds for a decking.
He’s not really in the same danger on a one armed high attack but then again…it’s a one armed attack which Kerk can pick under or over hook.

Kerk basically stymied Parris’ brain by wrist control…stuck trying to think of something to do besides “get my effing wrist free now”.

There is no reason Parris can’t wrestle in space. When he did, he got Kerk to defend to the side and crossed feet into giving up the TD. A mistake on Kerks part. That’s what I recall anyway.

i would have to think he will wrestle in space. I also think he will be more prepared to ride. I think he was a bit surprised and ego played a part.

 

[apoharrow]

I truly dont understand why other coaches havent at least tried what RBY does to Desanto. Another adjustment was Carter putting his right leg back and it look like Kem didnt know what to do.

 

[Callthestall]

No way I'd say 10 for 10 in an RBY v Desanto discussion. After being handled twice, RBY, on a steeper improvement curve AND changing strategy, has become the favorite, but Desanto is still a solid talent. 3-2 & 5-2 wins have shown the improvement in our guy, but that's not much separation.

As for taking away an opponents strength, more times than not it is easier said than done. Wrestler's go-to shots are go-to simply because they work more times than not for that wrestler. When they don't it's usually a bad match-up; talent, strength, or style-wise.

Serious question; I'm interested in hearing how many wrestlers any on this forum have seen in the past, make as dramatic a change in approach to ONE opponent as RBY has done with Desanto? I'm drawing a blank.

Seems to me Hall would wrestle with different approaches against different opponents. Not as drastic as RBY , but Hall was very much a tactician of his opponents.

 

[slushhead]

I truly dont understand why other coaches havent at least tried what RBY does to Desanto. Another adjustment was Carter putting his right leg back and it look like Kem didnt know what to do.

They have — saw it a few times last year. They didn’t pull it off as well as RBY, though.

 

[apoharrow]

They have — saw it a few times last year. They didn’t pull it off as well as RBY, though.

Okay i just have not seen it.

 

[slushhead]

Okay i just have not seen it.

I’ll try to hunt down a few examples. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone try it this year, but definitely last year.

 

[huskieswrestling]

Does anyone else thing ADS has a little Freddie Biletinkoff on his hand wrap. I just jest. However, man does that kid have a grip!