Corley fired
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He should urge his teammates to catch the ****ing football. Nobody on a message board cost him his job.
And he under performed because receivers dropped the ball? Did he conduct ball dropping drills? I hope Hamler doesn't get pissed and transfer. Seems the kid thought his coach did a hell of a job..
If this isn't about Corley then I have no idea who you are talking about.
Two things that Barkley brought to the field that Sanders does not:
1. Barkley was an outstanding receiver, able to catch passes all over the field including 40 yards down the field. Sanders cannot do that.
2. Barkley was a threat to score from anywhere on the field every time he touched the ball. Sanders did not present that problem.
There is a B1G DC who would agree with your assessment. Barkley is the type of player you have to account for in your game plan and requires attention every play.
Sanders is a nice back, Barkley is the best in PSU history and might be the best in the NFL right now.
Saquon is also a much more powerful runner. No comparison there. Sanders is no weak sister, but they are different animals.
He was responding to people celebrating the firing of his coach.
Yeah, it's not really a valid comparison either on the YPC as SB would go negative 3-4 times a game looking to bust the big runs. Sanders didn't do that very much and took what they gave him and was very good about moving forward. There is only one SB, but there are various guys in college in the league similar to Sanders. I think he'll be a fine NFL back, but there is only one freak named Saquon Barkley. Think about how many runs of 40+ yards SB had as compared to Miles....yet the averages are close....so people need to think a bit deeper when posting stats.
Stood up for Franklin after the OSU loss earlier and now his WR coach. Good, loyal, compassionate 19 year old who can also play football. Next year that WR crew along with Freiermuth will be the most improved unit in the country and whoever the WR coach is will be the beneficiary. Just hope we have the right qb in place and play calling to get the most out of them.
The only Sanders that Barkley should be compared to is Barry.
Nope. All it shows is that at 19 years of age he's ahead of you in the empathy game, assuming you're older. He's sensitive to someone else's pain even in the midst of the reality of the need to perform. His Twitter statement was simply calling us to remember that. Oh - and you can carry the real world and have empathy. They are not opposites.
I wish he hadn't fumbled the pitch on the final play against Kentucky. He might have made it interesting. The play was set up as well as it could be set up. They had the right guy in position to make the play. Wish we could have seen what might have happened next.
No it does not (say it all). There's much more to the story than simply this YPC stat comparison...ugh!!!
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Actually, it doesn't say it all. When an entire defense is schemed around stopping a player, his YPC is going to be down.
It’s pretty clear that the narrative of the “Rahne apologists” is that the drop off in offense was justified given the loss of talent (Barkley, Gesicki, Hamilton, etc.). If I am correct and the offense regresses again next year the narrative will be that it is tough when you replace an experienced multi-year dual threat starter like Trace with an inexperienced pocket passer like Clifford. Guess what? In college football you lose good players every year.
Without a change at OC I see 7-5 or 8-4 next year. I hope I’m wrong.
Without a change at OC I see 7-5 or 8-4 next year. I hope I’m wrong.
Rahne would look a lot smarter if a few passes hadn’t been ridiculously dropped
I agree with losing players yearly - but it isn't every year you lose a player like Barkley. Throw in losing one of the best TEs in the country - and yeah the leading receiver in PSU history.
Combine that with the fact that for 1/2 year our QB was injured (arm/leg). Throw in the WRs dropping the balls and productivity is lost. Before OSU - PSU had one of the top offenses. I think Traces injuries derailed the offense more than anything else.
Passing is about rhythm and trust as anything else. Corley obviously didn't coach players to drop - but he didn't put them in position to succeed. If a route is a step or 2 off - the pass isn't 'on target' forcing the receiver to adjust leading to drops. This with Traces injury led to many balls thrown that weren't ideal catch able passes.
When you can't pass consistently - it is hard to have a consistent offense.
I expect next year to be a good year for the offense if the line plays as well as they did this year.
I honestly feel the OL will be better next year. The past 3 years - the defense kept many players close to the line (2 years to stop barkley) and this year since our passing game was not good. The WRs weren't able to stretch the field and thus there was no fear. Next year with George/Hamler/Shorter we should see this change. Hamler is a threat when he gets the ball. Shorter is a capable of stretching the ball. George has shown the ability to go deep. This doesn't even account for Johnson/Dotson/Hippenhammer who have shown flashes and if they put it together could be dangerous. The Defenses won't be able to crowd the line thus making our OL better.
The TE - Frieirmuth has shown to be a very good TE. Kuntz might be better.
The offense has the weapons. This year when the WRs struggled we had to turn to players who never played before. Next year - we have multiple players who have played who can step up.
Just to bring in some fun facts btw to this thread (although I guess i'll be called a Rahne apologist shortly lol)
2018 Final Total Offense Rankings:
PSU - 45th
MSU - 70th
2018 Final Scoring Offense Rankings:
PSU - 32nd
MSU - 67th
Maybe it's possible to say that without the talent (Barkley, Hamilton, Gesicki) that Moorhead may have looked a bit more pedestrian this year for all you know.
2018 Final Total Offense Rankings:
PSU - 45th
MSU - 70th
2018 Final Scoring Offense Rankings:
PSU - 32nd
MSU - 67th
Maybe it's possible to say that without the talent (Barkley, Hamilton, Gesicki) that Moorhead may have looked a bit more pedestrian this year for all you know.
SMH. This is not a Barkley vs Sanders argument by any stretch of the imagination. The original reply was with regards to deficiencies that Barkley covered up. With as many 25+ yd runs for Barkley, his ypc was still nearly equal to Sanders. My argument is that we made up for OL/run blocking deficiencies last year with productive WR play, mostly with Hamilton. We certainly caught the ball better in 2017.
Considering his proclivity to send dick pics, MMcQ really does work hard at recruiting...
32nd ranked scoring offense in 2018. Where would they have been if we had just had a normal year in drops?
Trace said that Shorter just had one of the most impressive practice months that he's seen from any Penn State player. You add that healthy 5 star on top of freshman end of year starters in Dotson and Hamler and i think the WR corps is at a different level next year.
So true, and George might be very good, and others. Add three or four quality TE's, nice. Was glad to see Bowers score and the camera crew showing all the congrats
I will be surprised if the new coach is not Johnson and if this has not been in the works for a while. Makes plucking a top QB from Oregon make a lot more sense. In fact it might be that Johnson, Sr. was the primary piece of this and Johnson, Jr. is an ancillary benefit.
Gattis leaving obviously was not planned for and when it happened it is likely that Franklin's top choices were already committed. Then you get Seider coming in and Corley is immediately moved to the open spot, clear where each resides on the totem pole. Possibly Corley was on his way out from that moment.
I could be entirely wrong, but the above makes a lot of sense to me.
Gattis leaving obviously was not planned for and when it happened it is likely that Franklin's top choices were already committed. Then you get Seider coming in and Corley is immediately moved to the open spot, clear where each resides on the totem pole. Possibly Corley was on his way out from that moment.
I could be entirely wrong, but the above makes a lot of sense to me.
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