Couple interesting things (IMO) in breaking down the D tape:

[stormingnorm]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

 

[81b&w]

I commend our coach for letting us get a glimpse of some kids we've been dying to see but I bet he wouldn't do it over

 

[PaoliLion]

Love the data. Thanks for sharing.

Reid looked like he had some rust, but hasn’t lost a step.
I’m also surprised that we didn’t see Luketa.

 

[83wuzme]

Just rewatched the 4th quarter. Defense looked tired and confused. App St very sharp.
Flounders said on Pennlive that Reid was hurt. No idea how bad.
Jarvis Miller looks like he should be getting more snaps. Cam Brown often looked lost despite 68 snaps.
Windsor had a rough 4th quarter. Maybe time to stop the bragging.

 

[PSUcup1]

Just rewatched the 4th quarter. Defense looked tired and confused. App St very sharp.
Flounders said on Pennlive that Reid was hurt. No idea how bad.
Jarvis Miller looks like he should be getting more snaps. Cam Brown often looked lost despite 68 snaps.
Windsor had a rough 4th quarter. Maybe time to stop the bragging.

Windsor missed some tackles , but he actually was penetrating through the line. Clean up the misses and he can be very good

 

[blion72]

Love the data. Thanks for sharing.

Reid looked like he had some rust, but hasn’t lost a step.
I’m also surprised that we didn’t see Luketa.

Reid seemed to disappear in the 4th qtr. Cannot remember the last time I saw him in the game, but he did not seem to be in there when they made the run in the last 10 minutes.

Luketa was out there, but maybe just for STs. saw #40 often.

 

[1000_OaksLion]

Farmer really struggles in the box. Does not play well in traffic.

 

[blion72]

Farmer really struggles in the box. Does not play well in traffic.

Brown also seems lost quite often for one of the more experienced players. I think Franklin had two TOs to reset players due to Brown out of position.

 

[bdgan]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

I think 46 plays for Matos was a lot for a sophomore. Unfortunately not much of a choice until Simmons returns.

 

[JoeBot409]

We should given Bowen his 5th... maybe 6th chance. What could he have possibly done?

 

[81b&w]

I bet he would, seriously, for any number of reasons.

Starting with, "What choice did he have?", given the entire scholarship roster included a total of:
0 Sr DEs available
1 Jr DE

0 Sr DTs
1 Jr DT

1 Sr LB
1 Jr LB

Available on the roster Saturday
Unless they implemented a 2-2-7 defense, there were gonna be a ton of snaps going to green kids.


Add that to the large number of snaps played on D (I think about 50 in the second half alone - which is a HUGE number), and it was "all hands on deck".

Now that they have seen them all in "game action" - even if just a taste - I expect they will TRY to find a few of the young guys to give MORE time to, and get a little more stability (especially if they get Givens back)

Just sayin, some teams stay with their first team a bit more and I think in retro we should have

 

[bdgan]

We should given Bowen his 5th... maybe 6th chance. What could he have possibly done?

I trust that Franklin did the right thing but Bowen was a huge loss.

 

[PennStateTurf2002]

I was talking to an APP State dan yesterday who came to the game. They were happy how the game went and they weren’t surprised. He also mentioned it was humid and nasty, even though it wasn’t hot. He also said APP State trains at altitude back home and thinks that is a main reason they can pull this stuff off. When conditions wear you down, they are feeling fresh.

 

[Madsol]

Reid seemed to disappear in the 4th qtr. Cannot remember the last time I saw him in the game, but he did not seem to be in there when they made the run in the last 10 minutes.

Luketa was out there, but maybe just for STs. saw #40 often.

Reid was in coverage on their TD along our sideline.

 

[LundyPSU]

Definitely would like to see more of #9 at LB.

 

[interrobang]

I was talking to an APP State dan yesterday who came to the game. They were happy how the game went and they weren’t surprised. He also mentioned it was humid and nasty, even though it wasn’t hot. He also said APP State trains at altitude back home and thinks that is a main reason they can pull this stuff off. When conditions wear you down, they are feeling fresh.

It's not like Boone NC is in the Rocky Mountains. It's 3300 feet. State College is at 1200 feet. Really not that much of a difference.

 

[sss]

Farmer really struggles in the box. Does not play well in traffic.

I think you could replace Farmer with "all current PSU LBs"

 

[sss]

Brown also seems lost quite often for one of the more experienced players. I think Franklin had two TOs to reset players due to Brown out of position.

I saw that. But my guess here is they slid him to replace Johnson a few times. So not his natural position, and then App State was changing formations at the LOS. #11 had the same problem. I expect to see a lot of pre snap shifting from Pitt this weekend (like they did 2 years ago) to confuse our new starters. It worked quite well for App State. Both LBs and S were confused and misaligned more than once. Good thing is that this is easily corrected and has now been exposed.

 

[Global Fan]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

Thanks Norm, this is one of the most informative posts since Saturday evening. Where did you get the data?

 

[GregInPitt]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

Nice work.

Front 7 needs to make a pretty big stride forward this week, as the staff goes through the tape and works on correcting the alignment issues and confirming assignments. But some of the issues were just man on man inability to handle the player in front of them. The comment on Windsor above is right on, as he needs to keep quiet in the interviews and lead by example. Toney's game highlight seemed to be jumping off sides.

We sure need Givens and Simmons back, and I also hope to see more of Miller (LB) and Mustopher.

The secondary looks to be the best part of the D, with the CB Johnson being the biggest positive on D from the game to me. He looks physical and aggressive. Together with Manny and Fields we have 3 nice corners. Reid looked rusty - hope his injury is minor and he gets back on track.

The Safety's, other than Scott playing great against the run, did not seem to make many plays. Did Monroe play? I was expecting him to eventually start this year.....

 

[razpsu]

Reid is very good and is very rusty with real time game speed. He will improve. Great that we rotated so many players this week and each week moving forward while getting the win. That will pay off as the season goes on then you will have what you have. Losing bulcholz and brown is huge. Much greater than losing Cothran a and Chavis so I am
Not worried about that. We need Simmons back though fast.

Any word on hippenhammer. He is that possession receiver that we need badly.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

We should given Bowen his 5th... maybe 6th chance. What could he have possibly done?

It was Bowens choice to not play.

 

[Ian]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

Communication was the biggest issue. So many guys seemed so out of place. Cabinda and Allen were barking out signals last year. Johnson and Scott have got to do better in that regard.

 

[artsandletters]

Farmer really struggles in the box. Does not play well in traffic.

Farmer has not been, and is not, a very good LB. I don’t get the hype over the last four years.

 

[83wuzme]

I went back and rewatched parts of the game. The biggest single problem I thought that I saw defensively was an inability to pressure the QB with the DL and the subsequent DB blitzes used to compensate.

The play that most stood out in my mind was the ASU TD throw that came with about 13 : 44 in the 4th quarter. ASU had 2 WR’s deployed to the wide side of the field. Oruwariye lined up on the outside receiver. Scott and Reid were lined up in the box almost shoulder to shoulder and well inside the inside ASU receiver with Reid actually to the inside of Scott. Wade is the safety, and is lined up 10 yards off the LOS and inside the inside ASU receiver. This leaves the inside ASU receiver, you guessed it, uncovered. The ASU QB immediately recognizes this. The play starts, Reid is unable to penetrate the LOS and Scott is picked up by an ASU back and tries to jump high to deflect the throw. The ASU QB lofts a perfect throw to the inside ASU WR. Wade is too far away to contest the catch. Easy TD for ASU.
I give ASU a lot of credit. Their offense is well conceived and well executed. Thomas may be as accurate a QB as we see all year. Some of our secondary confusion may have come from rotating a lot of players, but the issue was often a numerical mismatch : DB’s were being taken out of plays on blitzes. ASU was able to get the ball out fast enough or pick up these blitzes, so we were left trying to cover backs and WR’s with LB’s or not cover them at all.

 

[artsandletters]

I trust that Franklin did the right thing but Bowen was a huge loss.

Bowen chose to leave the team. It wasn’t Franklin’s decision.

You get almost as many things wrong here as you do at the Test Board. Try to pay attention. SMH.

 

[BBrown]

1) On the Overtime possession (5 defensive plays):

The personnel in there for "do or die" time:

Miller Windsor Ellison Matos up front (Hansard came in on the last play for Ellison)
Farmer Brown and Johnson at LBer - but after the first two plays, PSU took out Johnson and went Nickle)
The secondary was Fields and Omani at corners.... Taylor and Scott at S - - - - No Reid.
and even when they went Nickle for the last 3 plays, it was Johnson (#2) who came in, not Reid.

Was Reid banged up?


2) On 81 Defensive Snaps (Note: I also looked at plays that may have been negated by penalties, so that may not be an exact match for the official stats) …… PSU played AT LEAST 32 different combination of personnel in their defensive front 7 (some of that was due to Nickle and Dime configurations).

I think everyone noticed the large numbers of personnel groupings..... not sure if I have ever seen that many different ones in a single game. The staff has always liked to rotate a lot of guys on D - and I think that is a sound philosophy.
But, eventually (like, by Saturday), the staff has to start figuring out who their players are.




I didn't see any link to the breakdown that that one writer does (with "snaps" played and what not)…
So for anyone interested:



DE:
Miller - 58 (WAAY more than you would have liked to have seen)
Matos 46
Toney 29
Tarburton 6
Joseph 23

DT:
Windsor 54 (again, WAAY more than you would like to see)
Ellison 34
Hansard 27
Shelton 27
Mustipher 11
Joseph 2 (slide inside for a couple snaps)
Matos 5 (I believe all of these where when they went to three man fronts in Nickle and Dime)

LB:
Brown 68 (he musta' slept well on Saturday)
Farmer 58
Johnson 47
Parsons 22
Ellis 17
Miller 4 (made a couple plays - was surprised to find out he only had 4 snaps)
(none for Luketa aside from ST, which I was slightly surprised by)


Losing Cothren/Cothran/Chavis/Cabinda/Smith to graduation - - - - - and then losing Bucholz, Brown, Givens, Bowen this summer - - - - - - we all knew that the front 7 would be thin, and green as grass.
A lot that needs to be done - fortunately, most of these guys are just getting started on the steepest end of the growth curve, and they do appear to have some natural ability.


Getting Givens Back for 40-50 snaps (with maybe a few of them at DE) would be HUGE.
If you also get back Simmons for 15-20, all the better.

Yea I thought Miller played really well for the couple of plays he was in there.
Reid looked really rusty and was abused on their TD.

 

[PSUAlum]

Flounders said on Pennlive that Reid was hurt. No idea how bad.

It looked like Reid slightly touched his right hamstring going to the bench after he got beat for the TD, which was the last time you saw 29 on the field. If it is his hammy, I would guess it is slightly strained like Barkley had several weeks ago. They both acted like nothing was wrong immediately after the play walking to the sideline and they grabbed their hammy. Based on how Reid did it, I would guess it was really minor and hopefully can play against Pitt.

 

[JeffClear]

Reid was in coverage on their TD along our sideline.

Yea, but that was the last time I remember seeing him on the field. I wonder if he got injured.

 

[SLion]

Good data. I would just add that cramping/dehydration is always a consideration first few games. Guessing CJF rotated to off-set some of that risk. At end of day, youth was served, kids got snaps, special teams got some good but mostly bad experience, coaches got film on young players, rusty players like Reid got back into action and we found a huge playmaker on O with Hamler. We got the W still and that is what matters. CJF has alot to review and decide on this week.

 

[BriarwoodBash]

Thanks - That explains the OT alignment.


FWIW, I didn't break down every snap, but I thought Fields was outstanding at CB.... from what I noticed

Saw Reid come out of the injury tent.

 

[MJG-90]

There was plenty of blown coverage. But I can’t remember a game with so many perfectly thrown balls completed against very good coverage. Hopefully both issues regress to the norm on Saturday.

 

[sluggo72]

I went back and rewatched parts of the game. The biggest single problem I thought that I saw defensively was an inability to pressure the QB with the DL and the subsequent DB blitzes used to compensate.

The play that most stood out in my mind was the ASU TD throw that came with about 13 : 44 in the 4th quarter. ASU had 2 WR’s deployed to the wide side of the field. Oruwariye lined up on the outside receiver. Scott and Reid were lined up in the box almost shoulder to shoulder and well inside the inside ASU receiver with Reid actually to the inside of Scott. Wade is the safety, and is lined up 10 yards off the LOS and inside the inside ASU receiver. This leaves the inside ASU receiver, you guessed it, uncovered. The ASU QB immediately recognizes this. The play starts, Reid is unable to penetrate the LOS and Scott is picked up by an ASU back and tries to jump high to deflect the throw. The ASU QB lofts a perfect throw to the inside ASU WR. Wade is too far away to contest the catch. Easy TD for ASU.
I give ASU a lot of credit. Their offense is well conceived and well executed. Thomas may be as accurate a QB as we see all year. Some of our secondary confusion may have come from rotating a lot of players, but the issue was often a numerical mismatch : DB’s were being taken out of plays on blitzes. ASU was able to get the ball out fast enough or pick up these blitzes, so we were left trying to cover backs and WR’s with LB’s or not cover them at all.

just watched that play, they keep saying blown coverage, yet 36 is looking at the inside receiver the whole time. Did they think he could cover him? and help with a FS deep? The more I watched that, the more I think the players executed the D as designed.

 

[83wuzme]

just watched that play, they keep saying blown coverage, yet 36 is looking at the inside receiver the whole time. Did they think he could cover him? and help with a FS deep? The more I watched that, the more I think the players executed the D as designed.

Both Johnson and Wade were way too far inside to make that play. I doubt that we have anybody on the team who could have covered that much ground in enough time to break up the pass.
Reid started moving inside the receiver and toward the LOS before the snap. Scott was lined up inside of the receiver as if he might try to force the receiver outside, but there was almost no cushion. It looked to me like the ASU QB figured this out pretty quick.

 

[sluggo72]

Both Johnson and Wade were way too far inside to make that play. I doubt that we have anybody on the team who could have covered that much ground in enough time to break up the pass.
Reid started moving inside the receiver and toward the LOS before the snap. Scott was lined up inside of the receiver as if he might try to force the receiver outside, but there was almost no cushion. It looked to me like the ASU QB figured this out pretty quick.

I agree with everything you say, but re watch the play, 36 is looking at the inside receiver the entire time, that was his man. Too much ground to cover? Most likely, but #2 was his man, with safety help.

 

[Nashville Lion]

It's not like Boone NC is in the Rocky Mountains. It's 3300 feet. State College is at 1200 feet. Really not that much of a difference.

2000 ft is still a big difference in elevation

 

[sss]

There was plenty of blown coverage. But I can’t remember a game with so many perfectly thrown balls completed against very good coverage. Hopefully both issues regress to the norm on Saturday.

4th quarter, OSU last year? 2nd half MSU last year. When you blitz all the time and don't get to the QB....

 

[djr4rebs]

I agree with everything you say, but re watch the play, 36 is looking at the inside receiver the entire time, that was his man. Too much ground to cover? Most likely, but #2 was his man, with safety help.

I think App State had the right play call in and our blitz aided it. If Johnson was supposed to help, he sure didn't get out there and act like it. And Wade was closer to the other hash mark than the one he should have been on if he was supposed to help.

Perhaps 4 to 5 people messed up on this play, but a double DB blitz from the same spot with nobody covering the inside WR? Seems like Reid or Scott messed up.

 

[sluggo72]

I think App State had the right play call in and our blitz aided it. If Johnson was supposed to help, he sure didn't get out there and act like it. And Wade was closer to the other hash mark than the one he should have been on if he was supposed to help.

Perhaps 4 to 5 people messed up on this play, but a double DB blitz from the same spot with nobody covering the inside WR? Seems like Reid or Scott messed up.

I tend to agree with you except, upon rewatching the clip several times, 36 is definitely worried about the #2 receiver. You are correct it doesn't make much logical sense.

 

[LionHoya]

And thought I saw Reid riding the stationary bike