At what point does Penn State bury this Greek system? Sometime soon, I hope.
Yep, and then tear down all the dorms the next time a fight breaks out in one of them!!
At what point does Penn State bury this Greek system? Sometime soon, I hope.
Is that the "college guys can punch each other" exception to the assault statute?Certainly don’t see assault charges based on video. Bunch of college guys flailing at each other
Chad, Brad, Preston, and Tucker got their Polos ripped. Off to the ER they ran.Honestly I didn't see anything in that video that should have caused 4 guys to have to seek medical attention. If that was the whole confrontation, this seems pretty overblown.
No, but based on the video we have, there are really only two fair outcomes: charge everybody on both sides or charge nobody. I think in those situations the best thing to do is to charge nobody.Is that the "college guys can punch each other" exception to the assault statute?
So, let's say you go to someone's house and start a fight and they defend themselves. No one gets charged with anything? Not saying that's what happened here, but it could be.No, but based on the video we have, there are really only two fair outcomes: charge everybody on both sides or charge nobody. I think in those situations the best thing to do is to charge nobody.
Is that the "college guys can punch each other" exception to the assault statute?
That has happened.Should hockey players be arrested, too?
Can’t disagree with thatI have faith Franklin will take care of punishing them. This is effing stupid. Regardless if TCF and Parsons are defending themselves or teammates it is so incredibly stupid to be in this situation. Like beyond comprehension. If there are charges involved I call race card, because there is nothing there that should result in the courts being involved.
Thank the Lord we don't have a that tough of a week 1 game, but like this type of crap can get you suspended and could result in an L that keeps you out of the playoff if the schedule weren't soft. So incredibly stupid!
Should hockey players be arrested, too?
Not very often, but your point is dumb: this isn't a hockey game or any other kind of organized sport. This is a group of scholarship athletes either starting or participating in a brawl at a place where they obviously shouldn't be. Hopefully, nothing serious comes of this, but it is dumb beyond belief. If this happened at OSU, we'd accuse them of favoring the football team if there was no punishment.How often?
I think, under the new policy, this kind of activity is out of CJF's purview and is now handled by the Office of Student Affairs. Franklin can always hand out his own punishment, but he isn't the sole arbiter.I have faith Franklin will take care of punishing them.!
I agree. Not with the severity of the altercation. Heck, I've seen bigger fights in a sixth grade hallway over the years. Honestly, that was a push/shove/few punches.If that's the extent of it, I can't see anyone getting kicked off the team.
Not very often, but your point is dumb: this isn't a hockey game or any other kind of organized sport. This is a group of scholarship athletes either starting or participating in a brawl at a place where they obviously shouldn't be. Hopefully, nothing serious comes of this, but it is dumb beyond belief. If this happened at OSU, we'd accuse them of favoring the football team if there was no punishment.
...... Heck, I've seen bigger fights in a sixth grade hallway over the years. Honestly, that was a push/shove/few punches.....
That's why it's good it happened at a fraternity. They're the only group more loathed by the SJWs than athletes.I think, under the new policy, this kind of activity is out of CJF's purview and is now handled by the Office of Student Affairs. Franklin can always hand out his own punishment, but he isn't the sole arbiter.
You know what, you're right: since there are assaults in hockey, I think we should allow them in society as a whole.So if it was organized you’d be OK with it? Gotcha.
I bet that Delta Chi pledges have been hazed harder than the punches they were on the receiving end of in this fight.was that even a fight? LOL Lets all move on including student affairs.
Is that the "college guys can punch each other" exception to the assault statute?
I think, under the new policy, this kind of activity is out of CJF's purview and is now handled by the Office of Student Affairs. Franklin can always hand out his own punishment, but he isn't the sole arbiter.
Regardless of what the Office of Lack of Due Process (Student Affairs) decides, Franklin needs impart some wisdom to these guys. I have a feeling he is well experienced in handling such lesson plans.I think, under the new policy, this kind of activity is out of CJF's purview and is now handled by the Office of Student Affairs. Franklin can always hand out his own punishment, but he isn't the sole arbiter.
From my own personal experience, and without any info on how the scene in the video played out, I would stereotype this incident as quite common when I was there:
Fraternity throws a big party
Rules of that house were that unless you knew someone there (and you're a guy) you're not getting in - and even if you know someone there, you're probably not getting in with a bunch of other guys
Giant misunderstanding
Beer muscles
Someone throws a punch
More misunderstandings as people go to break it up
Some kid (usually not the idiot who started the fight) gets his orbital bone cracked or a broken nose that won't stop bleeding because of alcohol - or wants to file charges - and what could've been a funny "remember that time Shmitty started a fight with 10 football players" turns into a 5 alarm fire
How did Shmitty start the fight when 10 uninvited people showed up at HIS house and demanded entry? CAn you tell us proper way to handle it? Should they call the police? Football coach? PRESS? Maybe uninvited students should not trespass.
How did Shmitty start the fight when 10 uninvited people showed up at HIS house and demanded entry? CAn you tell us proper way to handle it? Should they call the police? Football coach? PRESS? Maybe uninvited students should not trespass.
Because Shmitty jumped one of the 10 uninvited people a couple of months ago, and now they brought friends back around to kick Schmitty's a** for his previous actions
Was Anthony Scirotto one of the 10 uninvited guests?
Always a list back in my day.It has been a while since I went to a frat party ... aren't the events open door? So they selectively try to turn away a small group? Which results in some hurt feelings?
Maybe Shmitty roofied one of the guy’s female friends? Lots of assumptions at playHow did Shmitty start the fight when 10 uninvited people showed up at HIS house and demanded entry? CAn you tell us proper way to handle it? Should they call the police? Football coach? PRESS? Maybe uninvited students should not trespass.
There isn't, but if both parties are throwing punches, it is rare that charges are going to go anywhere unless it is clear that one party was merely defending themselves.Is that the "college guys can punch each other" exception to the assault statute?
Lists starting in the early 1990s. When I first got to PSU you could just drop the name of the brother you knew and they'd probably let you in (especially if it wasn't a large group of guys), although it depended on the house. Then they went to a list system, which made it almost impossible to get in (as a guy, anyway) if you weren't on the list.Always a list back in my day.
That has happened.
Where do you think this was? The *Meridian*?Was Anthony Scirotto one of the 10 uninvited guests?
Well it wasn't going to be 21+ players who could just go to Mad Mex and get a margApparently a bunch of the freshmen players were there as well. Lots of chatter coming from the students on campus.