Well, after you get curb stomped by Clemson will you come back on the board so we can all laugh at you? Or even better, why don't you stay off this board until OSU actually beats PSU.
Does anybody believe that if you flip the PSU and OSU results that
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Or play Portland State instead of a ranked team.
You guys aren't winning it no matter how much public deepthroating Herbstreit does on your behalf. Why are you here? Go away.
FWIW, I agree with you if your belief is that Penn State should be in over Washington.
Because I enjoy discussing college football, especially Big Ten football.
Why are you so averse to differing opinions? I've been a paid member of Rivals for 10 years and this board is open to all Rivals members as long as they don't break any rules. I'm not breaking any rules, so what's your objection to my presence?
Ohio State took care of business by not losing twice. Penn State by losing twice gave the committee a reason not to pick them. I think the whole division and conference champ thing should come into play when teams have identical records. People are putting too much emphasis on conference record and not overall record.
So you come on this board on a day when most on here are pissed off and stir sh!t...hmm, that makes sense. Why not wait a while til things cool down and then have a college football discussion? Differing opinions are fine, differing opinions at the wrong time are sketchy at best. Like a Trump supporter going onto a Hillary board five minutes after he's declared the winner to just "discuss politics".
When would be a better time for us to discuss whether Ohio State or Penn State deserves to be in the playoff?
Would it help if I extend an olive branch? I offer my congratulations on winning the Big Ten championship. That was a hell of a game last night and your team showed tremendous heart in overcoming that deficit. Your receiving corps is freakishly good and it actually would be fun to watch them match up against Alabama because if Alabama has a weakness it's probably their secondary.
It's tough when you've been screwed more than any program in the history of college football (and it's not even close).
What part of PENN STATE WON THE F&CKING B1G CHAMPIONSHIP don't you understand? If you can't win your conference division, what gives you the right to play for a national championship?
If the long conference season doesn't mean crap, why play it?
You're about as much a PSU NUT as Crazy Paco.
Well where in the rules does it say you have to win your conference to win a national championship? Should Notre Dame be ineligible since they aren't in the conference. The rules committee is not told to pick the 4 best conference champions. They are told to pick the four best teams. I understand why people are hung up on it because it favors Penn State this year. However if Penn State went 12-1 and lost in the conference championship to a 7-5 team, I am sure the same people hyping the conference championship angle would be saying Penn State deserve to be in over 10-2 Big 12 team or 11-2 PAC 12 team.
Actually people are upset because it says this in the RULES.
When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:
Championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)
If you try to tell me that PSU and OSU are not comparable. You would be right. PSU BEAT OSU.
What do you consider comparable? To mean it would mean same records. To you it might be within one win. Unfortunately Penn State gave the committee two huge reasons to keep them out or not consider them comparable. If Penn State had beaten Pitt or Michigan we would not be having this argument. Washington would be arguing about getting left out over Ohio State. This is why I am in favor of 8 teams with auto bids for P% conference champions and 1 auto bid for highest ranked non P5 team.
If PSU had beaten Pitt we would be having the exact same discussion. PSU wasn't getting in. If OSU lost to MSU they would have found some reason to promote MI or OSU. To Delaney OSU and MI are the only teams in the league. If you don't think there is plenty of behind the scenes lobbying I would bet you are wrong.
It's all record. Notice he cited a 7-5 team or some crap CC team beating a 11-1 team. Like that's close to 11-2 vs 11-1.
He's a troll and a loser.
That remains to be seen. Wait and see if all four teams are competitive before you make that claim.
If the team that won the Big Ten championship last night had an "O" or "M" on their jersey, you bet they would be in the CFB playoff. This system is rigged, totally rigged.
Ugh. There's the head to head, and then there's the other games around the head to head.
We not only beat them head to head, but then we went on to win SEVEN MORE GAMES -- including #6 Wisconsin -- blowing out many of the opponents in those games. Michigan went on to lose to Iowa and a OSU.
Why is this so hard for some to understand? It's not JUST the head-to-head. That's just the highlight.
Pretty much what it came down to. OSU had one more top level win (Oklahoma), and one less loss, and never got blown out.
Well, my osu friends actually feel we got hosed. They're not sure they belong and they're damned sure neither u dub nor clemson are better than we are.. let alone more deserving. Which is nice to hear, but...
I said this 2 weeks ago... Udub wins they cannot get left out.. stinky SOS or getting manhandled by the only good team in the pacifist 12 notwithstanding... tv ratings demand some team situated geographically west of the mississippi. In this case, it's wash. And since it is highly likely watson wins the heisman, they need him AND they are desperate for a rematch with bama. So there was osu and there was us... and regardless of how blah that team looked, they got penciled in high and they stayed there.
after all, it's osu.
AND the poohbahs wanted a rose bowl matchup with perhaps the 2 hottest teams in CFB... psu and usc.
So they then went about making it an easy fix. Look at how little awful teams like colorado and florida fell.. or how a mediocre auburn at 8-4 is somehow #14. And a very strong 8-4 iowa is somehow not ranked. [btw, why not put auburn and iowa in the pit together and see how it sorts out.] ok state is 12??? cmon. And don't get me started about what the bowl aholes did to Temple. my god... that'll get rhule out of temple lickety split.
until an 8 team playoff is created, this kind of bullshit will continue. And NO, there is no reason to hear arguments about #8 getting in over #9 (and btw, THAT is EXACTLY why they put usc at #9... so when the argument arises they can say, well see, there is reason to expand further.. nobody is ever happy.. blah blah blah... so we shopuld just keep it at 4 and allow 'we the bozos' to have stupid weekly tv shows that are meaningless efforts by politicans who pretend they know football).
This committee and this format are a joke. an 8 team playoff takes these bozos out of the equation and allows teams to compete on something resembling a level playing field.
We kinda got ripped off, but if we beat usc in what should be a much-hyped game, it will open the door for more noise about a playoff.. and recruits are going to come. and we will get even better.
imo, of course.
I said this 2 weeks ago... Udub wins they cannot get left out.. stinky SOS or getting manhandled by the only good team in the pacifist 12 notwithstanding... tv ratings demand some team situated geographically west of the mississippi. In this case, it's wash. And since it is highly likely watson wins the heisman, they need him AND they are desperate for a rematch with bama. So there was osu and there was us... and regardless of how blah that team looked, they got penciled in high and they stayed there.
after all, it's osu.
AND the poohbahs wanted a rose bowl matchup with perhaps the 2 hottest teams in CFB... psu and usc.
So they then went about making it an easy fix. Look at how little awful teams like colorado and florida fell.. or how a mediocre auburn at 8-4 is somehow #14. And a very strong 8-4 iowa is somehow not ranked. [btw, why not put auburn and iowa in the pit together and see how it sorts out.] ok state is 12??? cmon. And don't get me started about what the bowl aholes did to Temple. my god... that'll get rhule out of temple lickety split.
until an 8 team playoff is created, this kind of bullshit will continue. And NO, there is no reason to hear arguments about #8 getting in over #9 (and btw, THAT is EXACTLY why they put usc at #9... so when the argument arises they can say, well see, there is reason to expand further.. nobody is ever happy.. blah blah blah... so we shopuld just keep it at 4 and allow 'we the bozos' to have stupid weekly tv shows that are meaningless efforts by politicans who pretend they know football).
This committee and this format are a joke. an 8 team playoff takes these bozos out of the equation and allows teams to compete on something resembling a level playing field.
We kinda got ripped off, but if we beat usc in what should be a much-hyped game, it will open the door for more noise about a playoff.. and recruits are going to come. and we will get even better.
imo, of course.
Decisions were made, but for those of you who have a clear agenda against Penn State at least have some intellectual honesty and acknowledge that the Committee chose a team (Washington) that took the clear cowards way out by playing nobody. Got whipped in November at home, never overcame any adversity and was completely rewarded for such a strategy. If there is one thing I know, if the roles were reversed Penn State would have been immediately disqualified for pursuing such a strategy. It's the hypocrisy by the Committee that's staggering. Everything they said was important in determining the 4 best teams was suspended to fit their own fatuous arguments. One last thought the Alabama / Washington matchup will get terrible ratings. Alabama/ Penn State would have been one of the most watched games ever. It was not about $$$.
Lol. Ok then according to your scenario, why should PSU be playing teams like Pitt & Temple (who are both ranked in the top 25)? In your case, so that we were also 11-1, we should schedule: Alaskan Community College, Fiji Local Caterers College & Galapagos Wildlife Conservatory College. So then, even thought we got beat by Mich, we beat OSU and Wisc in the CCG. Would we then make it to he playoffs? All of us know that the only way for PSU to ever make the playoff's is by going undefeated... and then too we might get snubbed for Bama, OSU or Mich.
Yes. Why should one team get special rules? Because they won't fully join a conference? They actually ARE in the ACC (despite their denials to the contrary) but the ACC gives them special rules
that they don't have to play a full conference slate. You want those special rules, you don't win the conference. That simple. ND is sill a member of the ACC. If they want to play with the rest of the country, they should join all the way.Similar threads
