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DVR alert: Vision Quest airs tonight on Fox Sports 1 at 7 PM and again at 9 PM.

Got home from baseball practice and watching the last hour. With the 9pm show on DVR.

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This Board: “I’ve replayed the end 15 times, indeed Louden never shook his hand”

Ohio State board: “Schute had the flu that week, he shouldn’t have been out there”

Iowa board: “If you knew the sport you’d know Louden stalled his way to that win, and was hopped up on caffeine”
Threw his headgear, too. No team point deduction?
 
I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
 
I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
Oh crap. Another childhood-favorite piece of art does not stand the test of time. :(
 
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Oh crap. Another childhood-favorite piece of art does not stand the test of time. :(
Some of @tikk10 criticism still holds, but I happen to think that Karate Kid holds up better than most of the movies of this type/era. It's almost painfully innocent in some ways--no movies exist like that today, but it's still pretty good.

PS--I like the Madonna cameo. Didn't remember that the movie helped make the MTV video of that song:

 
I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
You are definitely more Siskel than Ebert IMO
 
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I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
You know I love you but....

Delete your account

#theyputpeopleindarkcellsforthesethoughts
 
It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.

Well, Coach was wearing a collared shirt under his singlet, so there's that.
That was weird then. Ridiculous now.

The remake better have an M2 down the street.
 
I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
Rented it from Amazon Prime last night. I actually don't remember watching it before. Maybe this was considered a good film in 1980, but man, that was pretty bad. The wrestling and workouts were OK. Their wrestling room reminded me of ours in High School in the 70's (next to our rifle range in the basement). But wow. The scene cuts and jumps were brutal. maybe I wasn't watching it closely, but a new scene started and it was like WTF happened (looks like they left 2 hours of film on the cutting room floor and pieced together the rest)? I still have it available to view for 29 more days. We'll see
 
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Oh man. Now I’m scared to watch it again after all these decades. I was excited to show “Airplane!” to my kids. How disappointing to see it not age well. The kids were less than impressed. :(
It probably was me not paying too much attention, but things like they are driving to grandpa's house and all of a sudden they are laying by a campfire. Guess I missed that grandpa was a couple day trip. Or him just popping in at the bar to hang with the English teacher and there is Linda. And the whole timeline before the big match. I think it went from day to night to day to night in about 1 hour of "actual" time. I think I'm going to grab my bottle of Tequila Saturday evening and rewatch it once the wife goes to bed and isn't asking questions about the refrigerator being too cold and the flower beds needing weeding. And go on a parallel Vision Quest, and see if it makes more sense.
 
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I forgot how incomprehensible this script was. And how in the 80s female leads just appeared out of nowhere and acted on motivations that could only be dreamed up by male screenwriters. I've never read the book but the film feels like it was cutting corners from the original source material everywhere. The film echoes the natural feel of Breaking Away but lacks that film's establishing scenes--you knew why those characters said what they said and where they were coming from, but not so much in Vision Quest.

But Modine carries the entire mess along pretty well. And the wrestling scenes are actually decent. They clearly wanted to nail down the grit, sweat, and smell of a wrestling room. And they got the scoring right.

Minor nitpick: Weights were definitely monitored daily back then (the coach acts like he's unaware of Swain's weight), and today that cut would be illegal, I think everywhere. Likewise, sauna suits are no longer legal. At least one guy in my HS room was wearing one every practice, sometimes me. And while we're told Swain is cutting, the film relies on events (nosebleeds, fainting) to convey it--Modine plays him otherwise chipper and falling in love. I remember cutting significant pounds to be miserable and laughless. Not really Modine's fault, though, that's a direction choice.

It's also weird that the coach is such a minor figure in Swain's life--an afterthought, practically, yet Swain is good enough to challenge an undefeated state champ. The film never really establishes that Swain is that good--the coach is skeptical he can beat out the 178lb guy at the beginning of the film.

You might also come away from this film with the inaccurate impression that every wrestling match ended on a hip toss.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the soundtrack was awful, but it at least curated a particular genre of the most insipid, soulless 80s music into one collection. The best I can say is that some songs weren't as bad as others. My take on this is might be slanted by the fact that I was a HS junior when this came out.
Soundtrack was awful? SOUNDTRACK WAS AWFUL?!?

Insipid, soulless 80’s music made me happy....still makes me happy today because when I hear those songs, I’m transported to College Ave on a Friday night with a Walkman and legally open beer during our championship football years.

Now get the hell off my lawn!
 
It probably was me not paying too much attention, but things like they are driving to grandpa's house and all of a sudden they are laying by a campfire. Guess I missed that grandpa was a couple day trip. Or him just popping in at the bar to hang with the English teacher and there is Linda. And the whole timeline before the big match. I think it went from day to night to day to night in about 1 hour of "actual" time. I think I'm going to grab my bottle of Tequila Saturday evening and rewatch it once the wife goes to bed and isn't asking questions about the refrigerator being too cold and the flower beds needing weeding. And go on a parallel Vision Quest, and see if it makes more sense.
Cuzz you are reading WAY to much into this! The movie is FUN! Shute is big and nasty! Linda Fiorentino was HOT (I love that raspy voice!) and Louden finally got laid and beat Goliath but with his puny arms there is was no way that he would ever beat him BUT it is fun movie! Bonus! The panty sniffing scene is a CLASSIC! Carla silence and face is hilarious in that scene!

shute740.jpg
 
Cuzz you are reading WAY to much into this! The movie is FUN! Shute is big and nasty! Linda Fiorentino was HOT (I love that raspy voice!) and Louden finally got laid and beat Goliath but with his puny arms there is was no way that he would ever beat him BUT it is fun movie! Bonus! The panty sniffing scene is a CLASSIC! Carla silence and face is hilarious in that scene!

shute740.jpg
Let’s not forget the “It’s not the six minutes. It’s what happens in that six minutes!” speech from journeyman actor J C Quinn.

That chill moment scene still gets to me. There’s a great Bill Simmons YouTube video (I think it’s called a flawed rewatchable) that talks about the movie for over an hour and refers to that scene and JC transforming into Pacino for a few minutes.
 
They don’t make movies like that. Can’t shownit yet to my girls because of the sexual content. Everything these days are so nice and simple and.... ugh.

Wife showed them 16 candles and they were like....huh?
 
They don’t make movies like that. Can’t shownit yet to my girls because of the sexual content. Everything these days are so nice and simple and.... ugh.

Wife showed them 16 candles and they were like....huh?
Show them Blazzing Saddles. I saw that a few months ago, and still thought it was hilarious. Certainly could never be made as a general release movie these days. But, yeah, most of the classics from the 70s/80s really don't hold up to well for the new generation. But I will admit, I listened to the soundtrack last night while on the bike via Spotify, and it was actually really good. Here it is:

Track listing​

No.TitleWriter(s)PerformerLength
1."Only the Young"Journey4:01
2."Change"Holly KnightJohn Waite3:14
3."Shout to the Top!"Paul WellerThe Style Council4:18
4."Gambler"MadonnaMadonna3:54
5."She's On the Zoom"Don Henley3:18
6."Hungry for Heaven"Dio4:12
7."Lunatic Fringe"Tom CochraneRed Rider4:20
8."I'll Fall in Love Again"Sammy HagarSammy Hagar4:11
9."Hot Blooded"Foreigner4:24
10."Crazy for You"Madonna4:08
Total length:40:24
 
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Cuzz you are reading WAY to much into this! The movie is FUN! Shute is big and nasty! Linda Fiorentino was HOT (I love that raspy voice!) and Louden finally got laid and beat Goliath but with his puny arms there is was no way that he would ever beat him BUT it is fun movie! Bonus! The panty sniffing scene is a CLASSIC! Carla silence and face is hilarious in that scene!

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Nice article about Frank Jasper = Shute. He was 215 when he got the part and had to suck down to 189 for the role (not quite the 168 weigh in)

Shute InterMat Article
 
There are many decent people in iowa....I doubt this bar owner is in tCP

 
Soundtrack was awful? SOUNDTRACK WAS AWFUL?!?

Insipid, soulless 80’s music made me happy....still makes me happy today because when I hear those songs, I’m transported to College Ave on a Friday night with a Walkman and legally open beer during our championship football years.

Now get the hell off my lawn!
You must have been there right before the fun police showed up. I missed out on the good stuff. My first year at UP was the year they had the first dry Phi Psi 500.
 
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You must have been there right before the fun police showed up. I missed out on the good stuff. My first year at UP was the year they had the first dry Phi Psi 500.
Phi Psi 500 is dry now? Well that is just running then!
My senior year we reenacted President Reagan’s foreign policy of 1986! We ran a skit of Gaddafi enacting a red line (toilet paper) and Indiana Jones Reagan breaking it with a whip while US and Libyan naval vessels ran around. We had a blast and were told by many our group was the best, but we didn’t win since we were a dorm room group and not a fraternity.
 
You must have been there right before the fun police showed up. I missed out on the good stuff. My first year at UP was the year they had the first dry Phi Psi 500.
Yes, I was there before (undergrad) and after (grad school)...although the Phi Psi was still a drinking event in grad school. The town of State College outlawed the outside drinking in the early 80s, but the bars still provided the beer for the runners.

I remember rolling a shopping cart with a half keg down Beaver Ave as an undergrad, and I wasn’t even in the race.

Phi Psi, Briarwood Bash, Regatta, Movin On...I’m probably missing some.

Good times.
 
Phi Psi 500 is dry now? Well that is just running then!
My senior year we reenacted President Reagan’s foreign policy of 1986! We ran a skit of Gaddafi enacting a red line (toilet paper) and Indiana Jones Reagan breaking it with a whip while US and Libyan naval vessels ran around. We had a blast and were told by many our group was the best, but we didn’t win since we were a dorm room group and not a fraternity.
LOL! That was funny! Now you would be thrown out of school for sterotypical depiction of Muslims as terrorists. The gave Chi Omega the death sentence a few years ago for doing a Cinco De Mayo party dressed in Sombreros and cheesy mustaches!

That Reagan story reminded me of Halloween 1988. I was living at Penn Towers at the time and I was coming back from Pattee to get ready to go out for the evening. The elevator opens and 5 guys in suits are staning in the elevator. 4 are dressed as Secret Service Agents and one in the middle is dressed as Ronald Reagan with the mask on! The say clear the way, and they all move out the lobby as group and start walking down Beaver Ave, in a tight box formation!!! LOL!
 
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