A nationally respected announcer (Klatt) proclaims during a game that the game is essentially rigged. This is allegedly witnessed by over 10,000,000 viewers. The only place this is brought up is on this board. Admittedly I only watched the 4th quarter. I saw no mention of it. Now you are telling me to watch the whole game. Why don't you post the clip? I think that searching for bigfoot would be a better use of my time. This would be an enormous scandal NATIONALLY, not just in the conference.
I hope CJF and Kraft submit a formal request to the B1G Commissioner asking for a formal inquiry into Joel Klatt's (FOX Sports) on-air statement....
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It is true you insufferable b1g loudmouth - here is a link to an article that discusses the topic including the fact that thousands of people made real-time media posts on X and Instagram (along with a sample of some of them) - hit the following HOTLINK:
Big Ten officials roasted for questionable first half in Ohio State-Penn State game
You also state that it would be a b1g scandal in the b1g - which it would be if this bush Conference had an ounce of integrity (and what this original post is about). Guess what, it isn't a scandal and the B1G hasn't looked into, or made any kind of statement about, Klatt's statement.
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Jack Ham has NOTHING on LoadoCommodo..... Just sayin'.
LOL... See, you never competed. You've never experienced a ref taking the game / match away from someone. I have. Bad calls happen. Some worse than others. Some are unforgivable.
Competitors don't bitch about the refs...they find a way. I've never once blamed a ref for my team losing. Never. That's what losers do so you doing it makes sense.
How about the b1g know-it-all saying it would be a huge scandal if Klatt really said what he actually did say??? Klatt absolutely said it and contrary to what the self-righteous b1g loudmouth says, it is not a scandal of any kind in this bush Conference - go figure.
Ham isn't "a rules expert" and he's biased as we all know. Elite player...one of the best ever but you all only like listening to him do games because he's a homer. Reality.
Klatt specifically said the officiating crew told him, prior to the game, that they were going to let them play.
That much is true.
The rest ... the speculation that somehow OSU knew, and PSU didn't know about this ... that's all just wild speculation.
Hope that clears it up for you.
I call out bad calls, but I also downplay these bad calls, because they usually even out, and sometimes poop happens and you can't focus on that ... but the refs were bad in that game, and it did happen to only go one way. I also hate the goofballs who whine about the ref's calls all the time - CJFisJoePaII is nuts ... he makes up phantom call after phantom call to complain about in EVERY game, so it's tough to actually side with him and fuel his paranoia and overall craziness ... but this was a game where the reffing really favored one side pretty consistently, and in meaningful ways.
Now he's fluffing out his chest as a warrior competitor because he isn't complaining about the calls.... - he seems to confuse the difference between fans and competitors.... I guess this should surprise no one as he believes posing as a fan of a team for the purpose of trolling is equivalent to being an actual fan. This dude is seriously diluded and has some scary personality problems which are significantly exacerbated by the fact he is just plain dumb.
Klatt more than just said it - he said it to explain why multiple obvious and blatant penalties by the duhO$U secondary were not called - and he said it on MULTIPLE occasions to explain blatant penalties that went uncalled on duhO$U Secondary (he also made reference to the Officials keeping their flags in their pockets while providing his explanation).
Like I said, he has NOTHING on you because YOU ARE a rules expert and had a successful NFL career.... lol...
Wrong again. Competitors try to great levels to keep the refs out of it. That's all they can do.
You need to ask Kerry Kolat about officiating. Go ahead and call him a loser.... Go ahead.
I scanned your link. Where is Klatt mentioned? Where is the national outrage had this actually happened? You have people bitching about the officiating of a game. That happens a lot in college football. Probably time to move on.
His stellar NFL career doesn't make him a rules expert--we have NFL players that are shocked when they find out rules all the time
Hell any time a game goes to OT basically no player knows what is happening
Former players are typically the worst because they think how they wish the game was called is how it should be
Klatt specifically said the officiating crew told him, prior to the game, that they were going to let them play.
This is far, far from Klatt being told the game is rigged.
Like creating back to back 3-&-outs on PSU's 2nd & 3rd possessions by not calling BLATANT and OBVIOUS penalties by the duhO$U secondary on PSU receivers after PSU had a 14 play 63 yard scoring drive on their 1st possession (followed by a Pick-6 on duhO$U's 1st possession). Laughable to claim that the Officials should just subjectively decide how the Rulebook should be enforced dependent upon the game and not consistently enforce the Rulebook regardless of the game. I'd be real interested to hear the B1G's Official Statement that it is B1G Officiating Policy that the NCAA Rulebook be subjectively enforced from game-to-game at the discretion of the assigned B1G Crew??? I really want to hear their statement on this and several other questions relative to it such as telling the B1G Affiliated Broadcast Crew that they were going to call this game differently than others to the point the B1G Affliated Broadcast Crew used the disclosure to explain why multiple blatant and obvious penalties were not called on the duhO$U Secondary.
And "let them play" is keeping the refs out of it
"Kerry" Kolat (maybe you should learn his name and I know it and I'm not even a wrestling fan) can bitch if he wants and I'll say it's pathetic and a loser mentality. It's making an excuse.
Yes. If there is a penalty call it. If not don't call one. If in doubt, there is replay. If that means a penalty on every play, it won't take long before the game is cleaned up and equitable.
Wwwoooowwwww……wait … what?????
, that’s a huge shift of the goalposts right there. You kept insisting that Klat never said it. It was nowhere on the internet but here. None of the football boards were discussing it. That people here were downright insane!
Nobody ever said Klatt said that liar. You were told precisely what Klatt said - and Klatt brought the STATEMENT up as an EXPLANATION for why multiple non-calls of blatant and obvious penalties by the duhO$U Secondary went uncalled (he also referenced the Officials keeping their flags in their pockets based on what the crew told the FOX team). Again, you were told exactly what Klatt said as well as how, and when, the reference was made - you responded that if this were all true, it would be a league scandal.... - now when proven wrong and Klatt absolutely said these things including the timing, and context, of how he used the references (namely to explain why the Officiating Crew was ignoring obvious penalties), you're changing your tune. You're a pattent liar - nobody ever told you that Klatt said the game was rigged.
And your lack of an NFL career makes you a rules expert.... BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
And you can hope for that--you're never going to get it so complain forever.
Penn State, like every other team, commits a penalty on basically every single play
Correct - you only get blatant holding (both offensive & defensive) and PI on an every play basis when you don't call it early. Again, we're talking about beyond blatant and obvious penalties here - not ticky-tack stuff. There is ZERO precedent for ignoring BLATANT penalties contrary to what AlwaysWrongo posing-troll douchebag is saying.
Here is a post from earlier in the thread:
Another question to ask is , did the BIG inform OSU? They told klatt so there is a chance they told OSU which would give OSU an advantage.
How does "letting them play" translate into OSU having an advantage? If the refs are ignoring infractions, that does not in itself favor 1 team. Calling me names does not change that. PSU lost the game, just like OSU lost to Oregon. Close, but no cigar. Time to move on.
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Let them play is a concerted effort to allow penalties.
Yes, I misspelled Cary. Had him confused Kerry McCoy who also got screwed by referees....
https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5498070-injustice-kerry-mccoy-in-tehran
Now go ahead with your schtick that they are losers. You are a f'ing disgrace.
No he's a PSU fan don't you know?... because he's on this board and uses "us" and "we" when framing his trolling like calling legendary PSUers like Ham, McCoy and Kolat "losers" because they have the audacity to question b1g Officiating as biased, corrupt or both...
Losers blame the officials when they fail--disagree with that all you
Let them play is exactly what players want--the issue is our WRs couldn't beat the coverage not that they were doing the exact same things our DBs do and everyone else does. The reason it bothers you more is their skill level makes it harder to get that separation.
I just gave you two examples. Now you are just being a fool. @LoadoCommodo strikes again.
You are a disgrace. A complete and utter disgrace.
You gave examples that you care about that you incorrectly believe prove your point because a wrestler was complaining
But you also combined two people so...
Again, you think it's justified. I think it's bitching instead of taking accountability for your own failures. To each their own.
Thankfully, despite all the bitching you all do nothing will change.
I gave you examples of referees screwing athletes. As noted, I witnessed the same in my coaching career. No bitching. It's fundamental right and wrong. Simple shit for most of us with over a 120 IQ.
You are a pathetic loser. You've demonstrated it right here, right now. Be proud of yourself.
You gave examples of you believing the refs screwed players.
The poor kids that played under you. Never learned to take accountability.
It's adorable you think you're more intelligent than me but keep crying. Maybe someone will validate you.
Loado doubling down on stupidity. Hilarious. Now you are simply making an ass of yourself. I for one am enjoying it only because you do it freely.
All of us are more intelligent than you. Let that sink in Loado.
This is what you do when you lost the argument. You randomly attack because you were beat. Thanks for being predictable.
FWIW......three things that I definitely heard Klatt say during the broadcast:
1. that he refs were going to "let them play"
2. on a replay with the O$U OG moved to OT on a key block of Abdul-Carter, "he might have got away with a little hold there"
3. on another replay with the O$U OG moved to OT on a key block of Abdul-Carter, "he might have got away with a little hold there"
1. that he refs were going to "let them play"
2. on a replay with the O$U OG moved to OT on a key block of Abdul-Carter, "he might have got away with a little hold there"
3. on another replay with the O$U OG moved to OT on a key block of Abdul-Carter, "he might have got away with a little hold there"
Klatt also said that he was told the Refs were "going to let them play" directly from the Officiating Crew and he made the reference while explaining why the refs did not call what he admitted was a clear penalty by the duhO$U secondary while commenting on a replay of the 3rd Down pass of PSU's 2nd Offensive possession (a pass to Liam Clifford where he was held off the LOS and then hit whilw ball was in the air and welll before the ball arrived). Klatt then repeated the "they're letting play" mantra to explain why Tyler Warren was permitted to be held off the LOS and throughout his pattern and then tackled while the ball was in the air and well before it arrived while reviewing a replay of the 3rd Down pass of PSU's very next possession.
What I hate about the officiating double standard is that when OSU plays in a big playoff game out of conference, they lose their advantage and come up short time and time again. They get used to cheating game after game and so they expect the advantage all the time.
Which makes the Big Ten looks bad. And us even worse because we’re stuck behind them.
Which makes the Big Ten looks bad. And us even worse because we’re stuck behind them.
Some historical perspective:
Long before PSU Joined the Big Ten:
1) I used to live in "Chicagoland" in the 70's and I remember Ohio State and other Big Ten fans complaining that Michigan was sort of "teacher's pet" within the conference. There was particularly a common complaint about offensive holding and one time OSU coach Woody Hayes, IIRC, had his D-Line wear tear-way jerseys during a OSU-UM game to prove a point.
2) Meanwhile, as an independent PSU had two or three undefeated seasons without being named national champion. Thus led to long-time PSU fans having something of a persecution complex.
PSU's entry into the B1G did not go smoothly
1) This was decided by the presidents without informing the ADs, some of whom were against having PSU join. the result was that Penn State was not exactly welcomed with open arms by the rest of the league.
2) Anyone who was a PSU fan from 1993 on can list off several instances of weird/bad calls going against PSU, especially against Michigan and, to a lesser extent, OSU. Combine the 'red carpet treatment' we received when joining with the persecution complex we carried with us to begin with and it's not surprising PSU fans often suspect bias. Stories of one ref in particular who was an open UM fan being allowed to ref PSU vs UM games were going around.
3) The Sandusky Scandal obviously didn't help us. There is likely to be a subconscious bias against PSU from some officials that carries over because of that. "You're lucky to even be playing", one ref once told a PSU player who questioned a call.
So for those of you from other fan bases who log in here and wonder why all this crying, this is some of the back-story.
Long before PSU Joined the Big Ten:
1) I used to live in "Chicagoland" in the 70's and I remember Ohio State and other Big Ten fans complaining that Michigan was sort of "teacher's pet" within the conference. There was particularly a common complaint about offensive holding and one time OSU coach Woody Hayes, IIRC, had his D-Line wear tear-way jerseys during a OSU-UM game to prove a point.
2) Meanwhile, as an independent PSU had two or three undefeated seasons without being named national champion. Thus led to long-time PSU fans having something of a persecution complex.
PSU's entry into the B1G did not go smoothly
1) This was decided by the presidents without informing the ADs, some of whom were against having PSU join. the result was that Penn State was not exactly welcomed with open arms by the rest of the league.
2) Anyone who was a PSU fan from 1993 on can list off several instances of weird/bad calls going against PSU, especially against Michigan and, to a lesser extent, OSU. Combine the 'red carpet treatment' we received when joining with the persecution complex we carried with us to begin with and it's not surprising PSU fans often suspect bias. Stories of one ref in particular who was an open UM fan being allowed to ref PSU vs UM games were going around.
3) The Sandusky Scandal obviously didn't help us. There is likely to be a subconscious bias against PSU from some officials that carries over because of that. "You're lucky to even be playing", one ref once told a PSU player who questioned a call.
So for those of you from other fan bases who log in here and wonder why all this crying, this is some of the back-story.
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The conference and its officials are not after the PSU athletic teams, they are after you
