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So, PA members, or other states with same mandates, who is essential? I sell private label veggie chips and popcorn, so I would guess I am non-essential, but I work from home so I guess I still have to work. My wife is a teachers aid, so she is home at least for two weeks. How about the rest of you?
 
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My work and the work of our chief engineer is essential if only in that we are a small company and if we don't work revenue falls and other employees may not have work, and more importantly, a paycheck. However, we can do a large portion of our work remotely at home. I regularly have my office server backed up on a portable drive which I copy to my home PC allowing me access to files. I guess we could use a cloud file system, but have not done that as of yet. I will be restricting my exposure as much as possible as I probably fit the at-risk criteria on several levels, and I have family responsibilities that I don't want to put at risk. I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and didn't touch a thing with my hands while there except for the appointment card for a visit in several months. I asked my doctor whether I should go to a dental appointment next week and he said no. He also was of the opinion that conditions in the US in two weeks may resemble Italy. This article is sobering:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...age-and-lies-for-virus-patients-idUSKBN2133KG
 
Commercial furniture/space planning here. Non-essential but we have a skeleton crew here this week. Next week will be different.
 
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We supply metal components to the electronic/telecom/and automotive markets. I get an email every 20 minutes from customers asking if the supply chain will be impacted. They seem to think we are essential. They should worry more about selling their products because if they don't, we will not be as essential! We are about to enter a sharp and fast recession. There is no way out. The only good thing is the recovery will be just as sharp. So keep your powder dry folks. People with a stomach for it will make a lot of money. The United States has proven time and time again that we can navigate and innovate out of anything. Unfortunately there will be some suffering along the way.
 
So, PA members, or other states with same mandates, who is essential? I sell private label veggie chips and popcorn, so I would guess I am non-essential, but I work from home so I guess I still have to work. My wife is a teachers aid, so she is home at least for two weeks. How about the rest of you?
retired, been home for 20 years, and my wife thinks i'm non-essential;).
 
I support precautions to protect people, but there's a lot of BS gonna happen with this stuff.
What we are really protecting is our health care system and overall economic health. We have the advantage of a vast country and it is important to take advantage of that to isolate the hot spots and let the pandemic cool to allow the biotech industry to develop a vaccine.
We have manufacturing here in PA, and joint ventures in Taiwan and Germany. Taiwan took swift and decisive action based on their experience with SARS, and their proximity to China. They are thriving under a restrictive policy. Germany looked at Italy and thought they botched it based on the bloom there, not knowing they had one growing inside their own borders. That plant is currently shut down for 2 weeks minimum. We are operating here under the conditions laid out by the Governor. Hopefully we see this thing level off and decline in the next 6-8 weeks. If we do, it is possible that we can make it to the vaccination point. That is the only thing that will end it.
It sucks, but we have to use our heads.
 
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I sell chemicals to folks that use lots of water, in boilers, cooling towers, chillers, paper machines, some food prep, reverse osmosis units, waste treatment, etc.

I have a lot of them on a technology platform that allows me to monitor whether my chemicals are reaching their systems and whether they're doing what they're supposed to be doing on-line, I can also watch chemical storage levels through the same platform, so I/they can place orders appropriately.

The ones that are not on this platform require more of my service. I'm currently figuring out a) how I can reduce the service while maintaining performance and b) how I can perform the service, while minimizing potential transmission one way or the other.

No idea if that answers my essentiality (?) or not.
 
Who thinks liquor store employees are non-essential?
I consider them essential. I do think it is funny that the state extended that shutdown one day. But at the same time good luck finding anything. I heard people were buying cases yesterday!

Nine months from now, what do you think will occur?:rolleyes:
Not much of a chance in this house... :(
 
I sell chemicals to folks that use lots of water, in boilers, cooling towers, chillers, paper machines, some food prep, reverse osmosis units, waste treatment, etc.

I have a lot of them on a technology platform that allows me to monitor whether my chemicals are reaching their systems and whether they're doing what they're supposed to be doing on-line, I can also watch chemical storage levels through the same platform, so I/they can place orders appropriately.

The ones that are not on this platform require more of my service. I'm currently figuring out a) how I can reduce the service while maintaining performance and b) how I can perform the service, while minimizing potential transmission one way or the other.

No idea if that answers my essentiality (?) or not.

Check your LinkedIn
 
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I just had a contingency plan discussion with Mrspa. I explained to her that if I catch the virus, that I will pitch a tent in the backyard. I let that hang in the air just long enough, then added, "And, you can sleep out there." I'll be in the doghouse, if you need me.
 
I just had a contingency plan discussion with Mrspa. I explained to her that if I catch the virus, that I will pitch a tent in the backyard. I let that hang in the air just long enough, then added, "And, you can sleep out there." I'll be in the doghouse, if you need me.
Well you can score some points by saying you changed your plans and you can now go to her Ted Talk because it is more important than wrestling. Of course she won't buy it, and it is probably postponed also, but maybe there is a chance...
 
So, PA members, or other states with same mandates, who is essential? I sell private label veggie chips and popcorn, so I would guess I am non-essential, but I work from home so I guess I still have to work. My wife is a teachers aid, so she is home at least for two weeks. How about the rest of you?
Turtled up on a farm in the mountains in the western part of Virginia. Cows, horses, goats, sheep, and greenhouse crops all consider me essential. Wife & kids ... not so much!
I used to work in vaccine & pharmaceutical production, so I’m getting most my info from old research buds. Their best advise is to follow long established means of protecting oneself from transmittable disease and dig in for the long haul. Any vaccine we develop is only going to be 50-60% efficacious at best. We’re probably going to wait on herd immunity until we get our beloved wrestling back. Maybe somebody could develop a virtual NCAA championship simulation that would occupy our wrestling centric minds.
 
Well you can score some points by saying you changed your plans and you can now go to her Ted Talk because it is more important than wrestling. Of course she won't buy it, and it is probably postponed also, but maybe there is a chance...
Yeah, Ted Talk postponed. Probably rescheduled for the same day that the trials are rescheduled.
 
Turtled up on a farm in the mountains in the western part of Virginia. Cows, horses, goats, sheep, and greenhouse crops all consider me essential. Wife & kids ... not so much!
I used to work in vaccine & pharmaceutical production, so I’m getting most my info from old research buds. Their best advise is to follow long established means of protecting oneself from transmittable disease and dig in for the long haul. Any vaccine we develop is only going to be 50-60% efficacious at best. We’re probably going to wait on herd immunity until we get our beloved wrestling back. Maybe somebody could develop a virtual NCAA championship simulation that would occupy our wrestling centric minds.
where at? Have a farm in Hightown (outside of Monterey, Highland co)
 
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It is incumbent on home bound, non-essential members of this board to take all necessary steps to create future Penn State wrestlers and fans.Everyone who is able should make a solid effort to do their part.

We Are!!!
 
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I already work from home and all court dates have been postponed, so not much of a transition for me. My better half is suddenly also working from home with me, and the cats seem to like that we're both around all the time. I'm concerned about the elderly in our co-op and I'm concerned for the mental health of friends with kids. NYC's density means we face some unique problems since any given door handle to a public or retail building is going to see thousands of hands a day. I'm waiting on a box of white cotton gloves I ordered, which will give us some peace of mind when we're forced to venture and forage outside the bunker.
 
My brother lives in SE Asia and has clients in most countries in SE/East Asia (except North Korea.) With many in China. So I've been force-fed a lot of details of this from the front lines.

Anybody who thinks they're working from home for 2 weeks is kidding themselves. Thru April is almost a given, and thru May is very possible if not likely.

Hong Kong and Singapore have largely slowed it to a manageable level -- with all "non-essentials" closed for 6 to 8 weeks. Their "essential" definitions were more stringent than ours have been. They acted faster and more aggressively (less regard for civil liberties) and are far smaller than the US.

Also the people took it seriously. No idiot college students packing bars or flying to Miami for a 2nd spring break because "flights are so cheap.".

No idiots like my 60-yo office neighbor going to Clearwater this week, after Spring Training was canceled, because Florida is warm and sunny.

And their senior citizens could live without church or cards.

"Essential" operations over there are being conducted very differently than we are used to and may be willing to do. Such as scheduling staggered breaks including lunch. Mandatory temperature checks 2x daily and logged. Sending entire teams home for weeks at a time. Etc. Standard union job rules are a recipe for plant shutdown.

@82bordeaux is right -- we're gonna get this good and hard. But we will get out of it and recover. How quickly depends on our societal willingness to make short term sacrifices.
 
Nine months from now, what do you think will occur?:rolleyes:

It is incumbent on home bound, non-essential members of this board to take all necessary steps to create future Penn State wrestlers and fans.Everyone who is able should make a solid effort to do their part.

We Are!!!

Ain't happening here. The wife has a firearm in the house. She says it's for protection. She just won't say protection from what.

Continuing on the wife, if we see a spider, I grab a Kleenex or paper towel. She just goes and kills it with her fingers. She is 5' 2" 115lbs, just don't piss her off. I justed didn't ask the right questions in premarriage classes 39 years ago. o_O

Ps unfortunetly, at 115 lb she is too light for 125 but does have college eligibility
 
My brother lives in SE Asia and has clients in most countries in SE/East Asia (except North Korea.) With many in China. So I've been force-fed a lot of details of this from the front lines.

Anybody who thinks they're working from home for 2 weeks is kidding themselves. Thru April is almost a given, and thru May is very possible if not likely.

Hong Kong and Singapore have largely slowed it to a manageable level -- with all "non-essentials" closed for 6 to 8 weeks. Their "essential" definitions were more stringent than ours have been. They acted faster and more aggressively (less regard for civil liberties) and are far smaller than the US.

Also the people took it seriously. No idiot college students packing bars or flying to Miami for a 2nd spring break because "flights are so cheap.".

No idiots like my 60-yo office neighbor going to Clearwater this week, after Spring Training was canceled, because Florida is warm and sunny.

And their senior citizens could live without church or cards.

"Essential" operations over there are being conducted very differently than we are used to and may be willing to do. Such as scheduling staggered breaks including lunch. Mandatory temperature checks 2x daily and logged. Sending entire teams home for weeks at a time. Etc. Standard union job rules are a recipe for plant shutdown.

@82bordeaux is right -- we're gonna get this good and hard. But we will get out of it and recover. How quickly depends on our societal willingness to make short term sacrifices.
While posting on here I may occasionally cross lines when responding to certain posts. In public over the years I may have been forceful with responses. Professionally rarely do I ever let my annoyance show through. Yesterday when a young man was belly aching about screenings to enter the building and this just the flu, I went off with a 2 minute tirade attempting to educate him. I have no idea if he heard me or not, but at a minimum he will not be babbling his bullshyt on company time anymore.
 
I work for a fire department out here in Ca. We’re still operational along with police, EMS... Pretty much everything else is shut down out.
 
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