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Retired former auditor/audit manager for the Commonwealth. Retired to a second career as a Stagehand for Pittsburgh concerts and theater shows. We start to ramp up now with concerts especially at Starlake (former name) in a couple months but everything went black. Sadly, on Saturday I was called in to teardown shows that were closing early. That industry unfortunately is in bad shape with this quarantine but they have to shutter with 18,000 people together.

My hope is that we are back up before Mick visits in late June. Concerts employee a ton of people especially the stadium shows.

Be safe.

i have tickets for the Stones in June, I hope the tour happens!

I essentially did nothing today but check BWI.

i actually made a big sale, to an account in Iowa, so yeah me!
 
Don't count on any grocery store. It's not just about toilet paper any longer. Hard to blame anyone, it's a function of human nature -- and I'm seeing every human response imaginable to this situation. Boil this down to the simplest life you can live for the near-term, and the long-term will take care of itself.

We are victims of our own conveniences and excessiveness.
 
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I own a retail/manufacturing buisness. Family operated with the ability to stay open because of Manufacturing being exempt from the Governor edict. I changed my answering machine to make people aware that most of our buisness can be done via phone and/or internet.
Just watched a news report showing the escalation of the virus in New York City. Very concerning to me because a lot of the residents in the Bangor School District are commuters that go into the New York City and outlying area for work.
 
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i have tickets for the Stones in June, I hope the tour happens!



i actually made a big sale, to an account in Iowa, so yeah me!

Paul, the Stones have postponed. Sorry man. But on the good side, that frees up Keith Richards. We all know and Keith knows based on his past history that he should not be still walking this planet. Keith and the CDC need to get together, put him in a bubble, then hit him with the virus. Then see how his body kills the virus. Never thought Keith would be the one to save the world.

Just this week I was watching a clip with CBS's Anthony Mason interviewing Keith..

"I see you're still smoking," Mason said. "How many vices do you have left? You've sort of whittled them away over the years."


"Yeah, I'm down to a precious few now."

But he doesn't miss them: "Not really. Because I've done - you can't go back and - I mean, God, I used to love heroin," he laughed. "But what junkie didn't?"

Unfiltered as his new postponed tour is called.
 
Not a big Stones fan , I liked the Who.
I saw the Rolling Stones in Philadelphia 1981 at JFK Stadium with 90,000 other people. What I remember most ,was a women's group demonstrating against the the Stones for being demeaning to women. The group had a plane flying over stadium with banner that said
? " Stones Down Women"
As plane is flying overhead, all of sudden you hear a prelude pounding base coming from stage and after a minute or so Jagger appears and starts singing"Under My Thumb". Mick gives the plane a one finger salute and the crowd goes wild, including the females.
It was Classic.

https://thekey.xpn.org/2016/09/25/the-rolling-stones-at-jfk-stadium-september-25-1981/
 
University Risk Officer. I have never seen so many telephone conferences in the middle of the night. Thinking about moving a bed into the vacant office next to me.

These moments on the boards are about all the fun I get any more. And I don't have time to read it all. So please someone make a post titled "important wrestling news only" to make it easy to keep up :)
 
I am so bummed. Funny, I did a google search and in the same article they seem to use postponed and canceled interchangeably, though they are very different terms, particularly with tickets.

I saw the Who last year and The Eagles the year before, both were great. I always wanted to see Tom Petty, and he used to tour my area almost every year but I kept putting it off, then he died on me. No more putting it off. I never saw the Stones and thought this might be the last year, plus got tickets at a decent price on the actual sale date, not secondary market, so I jumped on them.

Another hotel stay cancelled, more points back in my account....
 
University Risk Officer. I have never seen so many telephone conferences in the middle of the night. Thinking about moving a bed into the vacant office next to me.

These moments on the boards are about all the fun I get any more. And I don't have time to read it all. So please someone make a post titled "important wrestling news only" to make it easy to keep up :)

Why don't you make your office next to your bed, instead. Much easier, don't have to get dressed early, take breaks whenever you want, no shower - no problem, can watch Gomer Pyle reruns on TV, and as paintn has said, you don't have to fart to cover that cough, etc.
 
Why don't you make your office next to your bed, instead. Much easier, don't have to get dressed early, take breaks whenever you want, no shower - no problem, can watch Gomer Pyle reruns on TV, and as paintn has said, you don't have to fart to cover that cough, etc.
access to true high speed internet for videoconferencing, research, message broadcast. my 200mb internet at home is fine in normal times-in this situation, that direct fiber connection is a good deal.
 
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access to true high speed internet for videoconferencing, research, message broadcast. my 200mb internet at home is fine in normal times-in this situation, that direct fiber connection is a good deal.

Understand that, I'm hoping to transition from Spectrum to AT&T fiber soon as I can now get 1000 mb from AT&T fiber and only 300 from Spectrum. For TV, I cut the cable many years ago and only use broadcast TV (about 30 stations come in), with my best antenna being one I made using plans I found online. However, many of my personal accounts, contacts, etc. were set up using legacy Time Warner email addresses and I'll probably lose those email accounts when I cancel. Current conditions may allow me time to migrate these to gmail or similar, which will probably take me days to complete.
 
Big data Hadoop Administrator here in the Human Data Science industry (Don't ask).
I was just starting to work at home full time in February when this all hit. They were closing my office building and I didn't want to commute to the other nearest office, so work at home was an easy choice. My team is in NC, AZ, India, CA, PA etc. So the team was already working remotely.

So I was already adapting to not leaving the house as much. And that is really weird in and of itself, never mind the COVID

I do not consider what I/we do essential to the universe. But the company does.
 
My oldest daughter lives in Hoboken and works in Manhattan. Hoboken has been on a 8PM -5AM curfew all week. However, her employer was still requiring employees to come to work on staggered hours. Last night she called me and let me know a co-worker tested positive for Covid-19. And her employer knew that they had an employee that was being tested due to being symptomatic. She works in the sales area of a custom garment producing company and the manufacturing is in a different location in Manhattan (where the positive employee works), although other employees go back and forth to her office location. And the real stupidity of her employer is that most seamstresses in NYC are older women. We need to be smarter as a nation. It is these lapses in judgment that will prolong this. I had a younger employee request a week's vacation beginning March 26th to Austin, TX last week due to the dramatically lowered airfares. Yesterday I told him if he goes, he can use his last 2 weeks of vacation in self-quarantine, or take 2 weeks unpaid to self-quarantine before returning to work. It's his choice. Today I'll find out what his decision is.
 
The wife of one of my employees is a teacher. Yesterday, parents could come to the school to pick up items needed for distance learning. Her school district allowed each parent to go into the school to retrieve their child's belongings and required the parents to physically sign in. My employee's wife was unfortunately assigned to the sign-in table. My employee had to pick up his children's items from a different school district. He said the principal was at the door and asked him his children's names, radioed the information to a teacher, and checked off the names. The items were retrieved and handed to my employee through the doorway. Lesson: there are better ways to do certain things and some people still don't get it.
 
My oldest daughter lives in Hoboken and works in Manhattan. Hoboken has been on a 8PM -5AM curfew all week. However, her employer was still requiring employees to come to work on staggered hours. Last night she called me and let me know a co-worker tested positive for Covid-19. And her employer knew that they had an employee that was being tested due to being symptomatic. She works in the sales area of a custom garment producing company and the manufacturing is in a different location in Manhattan (where the positive employee works), although other employees go back and forth to her office location. And the real stupidity of her employer is that most seamstresses in NYC are older women. We need to be smarter as a nation. It is these lapses in judgment that will prolong this. I had a younger employee request a week's vacation beginning March 26th to Austin, TX last week due to the dramatically lowered airfares. Yesterday I told him if he goes, he can use his last 2 weeks of vacation in self-quarantine, or take 2 weeks unpaid to self-quarantine before returning to work. It's his choice. Today I'll find out what his decision is.
In a relatively free society, stupid gets to do what stupid wants. Hopefully post beer virus your daughter's employer meets a very good and determined lawyer that explains stupid can initially do what stupid wants, but sometimes at a cost.
 
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Not a big Stones fan , I liked the Who.
I saw the Rolling Stones in Philadelphia 1981 at JFK Stadium with 90,000 other people. What I remember most ,was a women's group demonstrating against the the Stones for being demeaning to women. The group had a plane flying over stadium with banner that said
? " Stones Down Women"
As plane is flying overhead, all of sudden you hear a prelude pounding base coming from stage and after a minute or so Jagger appears and starts singing"Under My Thumb". Mick gives the plane a one finger salute and the crowd goes wild, including the females.
It was Classic.

https://thekey.xpn.org/2016/09/25/the-rolling-stones-at-jfk-stadium-september-25-1981/

I was at that show too!
 
I'm no virologist, but my understanding is that as viruses evolve, their ability to kill declines in exchange for their becoming or attempting to become more infectious.

As of right now, corona virus is bad enough to justify a lot of precautions, probably including losing our beloved NCAA tournament, but it certainly isn't bad enough for panic.

Most of you probably have never heard of it, but there was a very serious flu back in 1957-58. It was another Asian variety, from Hong Kong. The biggest difference is that media coverage of that flu was "low-key" whereas today's coverage is completely overwhelming. They throw all this crap about "worst case scenarios" around and it's easy to be frightened. I know because I have a job that involves reading all the news.

What really pisses me off, frankly, is that the main media outlets will let literally random scientists give their personal "worst case scenario" while otherwise giving some people so little information that they don't know what to think. No wonder folks are scared and distrusting!

But what else is new? Folks were a lot calmer back in 1957! https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...sLHlQuLO1lgEdJR2yB7xhni0Yvmx4-fhtVAkOWhcnDhVY

Well, we can be that calm again! So I urge all of you guys to help the folks in your own life be more calm. :)

People also really need to understand that our ancestors were less afraid of death, and this is probably a good thing. My great-grandmother survived Spanish flu, a REAL BAD pandemic (it targeted young people whereas Corona virus has been hitting the old so far). She was very stoic about it. We could all use more stoicism, like Anthony Cassar's brand.
Here is a link that gives you something to think about. It is from a virologist.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...r-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-

Cliff notes version:
1) 7-15 % of all viruses are Corona viruses.
2) There have been no legitimate studies to determine if this Corona Virus is any deadlier than any other virus. We do not have enough data in any way shape or form.
3) In the past no one ever cared which virus caused the death - it was just chalked up to a flu virus. Suddenly, we are trying to pinpoint a specific virus and it is not being done rationally/scientifically.
4) The politicians (and press) are getting their information from people who are profiting from the virus.
I would be interested to hear any thoughts on it.
 
Here is a link that gives you something to think about. It is from a virologist.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...r-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-

Cliff notes version:
1) 7-15 % of all viruses are Corona viruses.
2) There have been no legitimate studies to determine if this Corona Virus is any deadlier than any other virus. We do not have enough data in any way shape or form.
3) In the past no one ever cared which virus caused the death - it was just chalked up to a flu virus. Suddenly, we are trying to pinpoint a specific virus and it is not being done rationally/scientifically.
4) The politicians (and press) are getting their information from people who are profiting from the virus.
I would be interested to hear any thoughts on it.
Get that scammer crap TF out of here.

Martin Arthur Armstrong is an American self-taught economic forecaster who uses his own computer model based on pi. He spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.
 
I'm a communication's tech in central PA and I work for one of the big companies. We are solely and/or jointly responsible in a lot of network's across the country. They have just about everyone that can work from home doing so. (technical operations mostly excluded from that) I rarely work with customers directly and if necessary I could go the entire work day without any direct contact with anyone. A few of my coworkers and I were wondering what was going to happen if a curfew takes place because we do a significant amount of night work. The answer showed up in our email yesterday with a letter from the D.O.H.S giving us permission to be out should a curfew go into effect.
 
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Here is a link that gives you something to think about. It is from a virologist.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...r-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-

Cliff notes version:
1) 7-15 % of all viruses are Corona viruses.
2) There have been no legitimate studies to determine if this Corona Virus is any deadlier than any other virus. We do not have enough data in any way shape or form.
3) In the past no one ever cared which virus caused the death - it was just chalked up to a flu virus. Suddenly, we are trying to pinpoint a specific virus and it is not being done rationally/scientifically.
4) The politicians (and press) are getting their information from people who are profiting from the virus.
I would be interested to hear any thoughts on it.

What Russian town do you live in. Your English is rather good.
 
Some people insist on touching their plate in a Mexican restaurant even after seeing the waiter wearing an oven mitt and being told the plate is hot.
So true! My friend worked behind the counter at a gift shop, and a 20-ish customer wanted to see a knife in the display case. My friend warned the customer that the knife was sharp. Then the customer tested the sharpness on his own finger, and there was blood everywhere.
 
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Get that scammer crap TF out of here.

Martin Arthur Armstrong is an American self-taught economic forecaster who uses his own computer model based on pi. He spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.
So you're saying we shouldn't start licking door knobs based on this information?
 
So true! My friend worked behind the counter at a gift shop, and a 20-ish customer wanted to see a knife in the display case. My friend warned the customer that the knife was sharp. Then the customer tested the sharpness on his finger, and there was blood everywhere.

Just like a child and a hot stove. They gotta see for themselves.
 
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Get that scammer crap TF out of here.

Martin Arthur Armstrong is an American self-taught economic forecaster who uses his own computer model based on pi. He spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.
If anyone is looking for a more statistical approach to looking at this virus, this is from a Stanford Engineering grad with an MBA also. It is pretty dry stuff as most statistics are, but pretty compelling as well.
The link was a total fail. I guess I don't know how to post a simple link!
 
Here is a link that gives you something to think about. It is from a virologist.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/...r-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-

Cliff notes version:
1) 7-15 % of all viruses are Corona viruses.
2) There have been no legitimate studies to determine if this Corona Virus is any deadlier than any other virus. We do not have enough data in any way shape or form.
3) In the past no one ever cared which virus caused the death - it was just chalked up to a flu virus. Suddenly, we are trying to pinpoint a specific virus and it is not being done rationally/scientifically.
4) The politicians (and press) are getting their information from people who are profiting from the virus.
I would be interested to hear any thoughts on it.
As mentioned previously, I worked in the vaccine business (scale up & production). This so called virologist is suffering from long term LSD abuse. I’ve spoken to some old buds still working in the labs (Toronto & Lyon, Fr) and it’s all hands on deck. I don’t get real inside info, but, billion dollar labs don’t incinerate their development schedule and flip every damn gene jockey to a newly identified virus for nothing. This pivot will set back childhood vaccine development by more than a year. Some gene jockey will become famous in the history books, but, his/her company absolutely wont get rich with a COVID-19 vaccine. The intellectual property will most likely be given away by government edict .... and rightly so!
 
Get that scammer crap TF out of here.

Martin Arthur Armstrong is an American self-taught economic forecaster who uses his own computer model based on pi. He spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.
Not true, but I am sure that is the story you were told.
 
Thanks for your thoughts on the video. I especially appreciate the people who took the time to give some kind of figures or personal experiences. Those who simply denigrated the people involve and ignored what they said were of very little help to me.
However, you can probably understand why some people do not believe the media. They simply do not trust them and so they do not give what they say any credibility. (Which is what some of you did to the video) At least we can understand why we hold different positions and why it is easy to dismiss certain viewpoints. Each of us are doing the same thing it appears.
I am happy to see stats and figures if you guys want to post them.
 




If anyone is looking for a more statistical approach to looking at this virus, this is from a Stanford Engineering grad with an MBA also. It is pretty dry stuff as most statistics are, but pretty compelling as well.
The link was a total fail. I guess I don't know how to post a simple link!
I posted something from a guy from Stanford also. It is above or below this post. It is somewhere. :)
 
Well after 33 years of parking my behind at the same desk, we have a first. We have come to the decision of shuttering our production plant for a minimum of 2 weeks. We are telling our employees they will be paid for the first 2 weeks, but if it stretches beyond that they will have to use vacation and PTO before filing for any unemployment benefits. It is actually market driven, but hopefully these types of closures will flatten the growth curve of the pandemic. We have never had any kind of shutdown in our existence. It will be weird coming here next week with a quiet plant. Stay safe folks!
 
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We just confirmed on-line only for the rest of the semester. Now have to deal with business interruption insurance, as the dorms are closing, and guess what all the students will want refunds, but Res Life still needs to operate!

That office bed is looking more and more likely....:(
 
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Hi Lookleft, I want to take the time to give my personal experience. In my experience I would rather read Matter’s hobby of trashing Rutgers than read your hobby of linking to wackadoodle cockamamie articles. Not all hobbies are equal! :)
I would rather see him take the "coronavirus challenge" and lick an airplane toilet seat.

Not that I want to see that either.
 
My oldest daughter lives in Hoboken and works in Manhattan. Hoboken has been on a 8PM -5AM curfew all week. However, her employer was still requiring employees to come to work on staggered hours. Last night she called me and let me know a co-worker tested positive for Covid-19. And her employer knew that they had an employee that was being tested due to being symptomatic. She works in the sales area of a custom garment producing company and the manufacturing is in a different location in Manhattan (where the positive employee works), although other employees go back and forth to her office location. And the real stupidity of her employer is that most seamstresses in NYC are older women. We need to be smarter as a nation. It is these lapses in judgment that will prolong this. I had a younger employee request a week's vacation beginning March 26th to Austin, TX last week due to the dramatically lowered airfares. Yesterday I told him if he goes, he can use his last 2 weeks of vacation in self-quarantine, or take 2 weeks unpaid to self-quarantine before returning to work. It's his choice. Today I'll find out what his decision is.
Her employer is an idiot, and begging for employees to quit and to sue him.

Your employee's request to go to Austin is amusing -- unless he has family there, it's not a place with a ton of things to do when everything is closed. And they shut down SxSW, so they won't want him there.
 
Well after 33 years of parking my behind at the same desk, we have a first. We have come to the decision of shuttering our production plant for a minimum of 2 weeks. We are telling our employees they will be paid for the first 2 weeks, but if it stretches beyond that they will have to use vacation and PTO before filing for any unemployment benefits. It is actually market driven, but hopefully these types of closures will flatten the growth curve of the pandemic. We have never had any kind of shutdown in our existence. It will be weird coming here next week with a quiet plant. Stay safe folks!
Congrats! That takes a hefty set of gonads to pay your employees to stay home. There is a direct correlation between the manner in which a company treats its employees and how it’s employees treat customers. Your ee’s will remember this gesture for many years. Marriott and others .... with no-pay layoffs .... they will pay for many years through indifferent service provided to customers.
 
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