Evidence over hysteria - interesting read
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Did you write it yourself? If not, who did? Why not provide a source? TIA.
If you listen to the lyrics and image they're about COVID-19 instead of obsessing over some chick, it's not a bad fit.
Who made you the spokesman for ‘Main Street.’ Are you an epidemiologist? How far did you go in school? I’ll listen to an ‘elitist’ like Dr. Fauci, thanks just the same. Take your crackpot stuff to the Test Board, and thanks for playing.
I have an MBA.
42 years of age. Just finished my fourth round of chemotherapy. Thought I’d lend a more balanced perspective then what our politicians and media are offering our country.
I have a Masters degree and I'm 53. My wife had aggressive breast cancer a few years back and was completely incapacitated and ill for months during chemo, followed by 4 major surgeries the next year.
Since I'm obviously qualified to comment, I'd like to take this opportunity to say that your post, while long and containing a lot of graphs, isn't balanced. It's just flat out wrong.
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Fixed it for you. Make no mistake, it’s Dr. Fauci who is calling the shots. He’s earned our trust.
Worth the read. Still grappling with why all this disruption of normal life. This never happened with H1N1 with many more deaths in U.S. early on. Something is amiss with this whole process.
The OP's snip above is only a portion of what the author actually wrote. Here's a link to the full piece:
That's hilarious; I can see the link but it seems that Rivals/Yahoo blocks content from Medium.
Link via Twitter:
That's hilarious; I can see the link but it seems that Rivals/Yahoo blocks content from Medium.
Link via Twitter:
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That's not enough for these do nothing hyenas. You sound like you might possibly oppose them politically, so your opinion must be struck down and ridiculed.
I have high grade diffused large B cell lymphoma. My treatment regimen is R-CHOP and will be followed up by Rituxan immunotherapy and possibly radiotherapy on the lymph nodes in my neck. I’ve experienced a variety of side effects that include nausea, headaches that last up to two weeks, diarrhea, constipation, insomnia, and neuropathy. You might want to check your judgmental attitude at the door.
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so screw all you guys with your real world experience.
Thanks for posting this Chris. As someone stated before I think it's worth the read. I'm not smart enough to determine if it's biased, or incorrect. Nice to see something positive though.
And jjw, prayers for strength and continued healing.
I apologize if my reply came across as judgmental, and I'm sorry you're going through all that, but you're the one who brought up your illness (and education) to support the credibility of your post, even though neither are relevant to the topic. At least that's how I inferred it.
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Jesus this is bizarro world.
Read the thread man. He was called out and specifically asked those questions regarding his degree and medical status. He was directly responding to the snarky post asking him those questions. In fact you liked the post where he was called out and asked those questions.
I get that and apologized for being insensitive. I wasn't making fun of his illness, and wouldn't wish cancer and chemo on my worst enemy (if I had one). But having an MBA and undergoing chemo doesn't make his/her post any more credible, which is how I inferred his/her reply.
When you have no job in June, thank him
He is the Donald Rumsfeld of the Coronavirus outbreak
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God, I don’t know where to begin in this thread. 
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Let me just say I’m really sorry to hear about both ouirpsu’s wife and jjw165’s cancer. I wish both of you nothing but the best and hope everything goes well from now on.
. Let me just say I’m really sorry to hear about both ouirpsu’s wife and jjw165’s cancer. I wish both of you nothing but the best and hope everything goes well from now on.
This is what you get when you click on the link now, hmmmm.
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Carl Bergstrom posted a fairly exhaustive point-by-point takedown of this article:
I'm no scientist, but even I could tell that Ginn's article was full of holes. And that's the problem when a self-described "regular guy" with no expertise on the topic decides to pontificate about data and science. It didn't end well for him.
These were the same people a month ago telling us all it was a “hoax” and how prepared we were anyway. Sending memes about the flu and Hillary or whatever else Fox and Friends told them really mattered. You’d think after THIS they’d just stfu already and let the experts handle things, but nah. Never fails and never ends with these ignorant clowns.
Do you care about where you get your info?
A factual search reveals a terrible track record with IFCN fact checkers. Below is just a small sample of the numerous failed fact checks by Zero Hedge.
- Says China “stole Coronavirus from Canada and weaponized it into a Bioweapon.” – False
- Is a Craigslist ad proof that counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally were “paid to make chaos”? – False
- It’s now against the law in California to shower and do laundry on the same day. – Mostly False
- A “newly uncovered” photograph reveals Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was crying over an empty parking lot, not detained migrant children, at a protest in Texas. – False
- “The Ukrainian government just indicted the Burisma gas company & named Hunter Biden for accepting millions of dollars from a slush fund.” – False
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/
I wouldn't say that, but Fauci is not infallible either. He's made some mistakes, honest ones I'm sure, like when he said a few weeks ago that 400,000 tests had already been delivered, even though they were still several days away from delivery.
At this point, it borders on kooky to maintain that the threat from the virus is being invented, that it's no different from the flu, and so forth.
However, even while acknowledging the dimensions of the threat, it is not at all kooky to ask whether the proposed cure (total lockdown) might be worse than the disease.
Some highly credentialed medical experts, one of whom published a commentary in the New York Times just yesterday, are asking that very question while suggesting a more targeted strategy: focus on protecting the more vulnerable populations, retain restrictions on large public gatherings, but reopen most businesses and allow most people to go back to work.
Wrecking the economy, bankrupting businesses by the tens of thousands, throwing people out of work by the millions, and risking a 1930's-style depression (or worse) is a high and arguably irrational price to pay in order to spread out -- not reduce...just spread out -- the number of infections over a longer period of time.
Sorry about your illness. You are immunocompromised, like many of us. The opinions of politicians and the media, for the most part, don’t matter, but please ask your Oncologist whether the opinions expressed in your post about the pandemic will help you or hurt you.
Hey, I didn't post that rubbish. I was simply pointing out that the article the OP posted was blatantly misleading and no amount of sympathy or subtle self-agrandizing (is that even a thing?) was going to change that. I guess I could have just said that or provided a line-by-line counterfactual analysis, but then we wouldn't have had this riveting thread.
When my sons were little I always made them ID the band on the radio. When def L came on I always asked “how many arms does the drummer have.“
People will literally take any source if it says what they want to hear. I mean it's not hard to google sources and see how accurate their reporting is. In the age of social media, it's as if people didn't learn from the telemarketing scams of the past. See who is putting out the info and try to verify it with more than one source.....yet people read what they want to hear and run with it.
Of course there is some hysteria right now, but guess what....someone stated just over a month ago this was all going away, but it's not. The WHO and CDC said it wasn't, but other sources compared it to the flu and downplayed it. Now you have people b!tching about the spring breakers and other folks who didn't take it serious. I haven't in my lifetime ever seen the world basically shut down, so apparently it is real and we are still going to have to suck it up for a while.
I'm not a credentialed medical expert but that is what I've been saying all along. Spend the Trillion on protecting the 'at risk' people and try to repair the damage done to the economy. i suspect it's too late for that now.
Zero Hedge is the absolute worst place to get info on this. They are crying wolf all day and every once in awhile there is a wolf.
LOL. They are a hoot. Every Sunday they are predicting another 1929; it's been going on for years.
.... although this time they are basically right. And they were sounding the alarm over Coronavirus before the mainstream sites were
It is true, I mean they are who I was following early on for this. But there was a point where they were not very useful anymore it seemed. I mean, I will credit them into getting me to stock up with food earlier than everyone else. Still though, they are just in hysterics all of the time and then calling everyone else hysterical. It just seems incoherent.
From the link:
"Update (3/22/2020): After falling under much scrutiny, Medium has deleted Ginn's post. Of note, Ginn is a former 2012 Romney digital campaign staffer with no background in medicine or infectious disease.
We are leaving it up for anyone who wants to read, while also including a thread from a biologist who has refuted it. Click on the tweet below to read."
Evidence over hysteria? LOL. Bad evidence by a know-nothing.
"Update (3/22/2020): After falling under much scrutiny, Medium has deleted Ginn's post. Of note, Ginn is a former 2012 Romney digital campaign staffer with no background in medicine or infectious disease.
We are leaving it up for anyone who wants to read, while also including a thread from a biologist who has refuted it. Click on the tweet below to read."
Evidence over hysteria? LOL. Bad evidence by a know-nothing.
This is an article that I believe is far more believable..
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-overreacting-to-coronavirus/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-overreacting-to-coronavirus/
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