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Excitement at 157lbs ...

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10th ranked wrestler had multiple takedowns overturned to win the match ... Tony Negron put up a fight that I want to see! I understand what happens in the room puts kids in singlets on the mat, but yesterday's effort has me believing I want to see Tony fill that weight class for a few more matches!
 
Clearly noone saw that powerful a result coming from a kid from nowhere in his first appearance against a #10. What a joy and surprise to watch, too bad he got screwed by the ref but it doesn't tarnish the achievement or impact that match has had on all of us. Wow!!!

Even more implausible, if I am not mistaken, he started the year at 149. He looked a bit lean for the job, but that didn't deter him in the slightest.

There is nothing in Negron's history that have a glimpse that this was in the cards. Who knows, maybe with maturity something just clicked and he now gets it. Ever wrestler is in shape and at least a decent athelete, 75%+ of succeeding in wrestling is between the ears. Put Jason Nolf's brain in most second stringers and you would have an AA. Hint, hint, Beau get angry, get aggressive. If you don't shoot you don't win, Negron showed no fear and it was his first time out. A classic.

I am super jazzed that we have another potentially viable candidate to watch over the next 1-2 months.

Clearly if he ends up being the guy, for Negron to have a chance to qualify he will need a lot more matches very soon. The midlands and Scuffle come to mind.

He certainly seemed to meet the eye test, but who knows if it was a one time rush of adrenalin, or an opponent who was recently sick? We all need to see where he goes from here and if he can duplicate that effort.

I am really trying to pump the breaks for now, but after that match I was ready to toss him the keys to the kingdom. He fired me up!
 
I am going to play the bad guy here. Negron was impressive, but I’d like to see a much larger sample size before taking too much away. Humphreys’ results this year haven’t been overly impressive and he’s been injured of late of as well.
 
I am going to play the bad guy here. Negron was impressive, but I’d like to see a much larger sample size before taking too much away. Humphreys’ results this year haven’t been overly impressive and he’s been injured of late of as well.
Fair, but one could argue he showed more in that one performance than Barraclough has shown this season. I think Cael alluded to as much in his post match interview when asked about 157. He said something like, “You guys have seen the same things we have.”
 
Fair, but one could argue he showed more in that one performance than Barraclough has shown this season. I think Cael alluded to as much in his post match interview when asked about 157. He said something like, “You guys have seen the same things we have.”
Wouldn’t disagree with that assessment. I think he’s earned the chance to prove himself, I’m just pulling back a bit on the reins here.
 
I am going to play the bad guy here. Negron was impressive, but I’d like to see a much larger sample size before taking too much away. Humphreys’ results this year haven’t been overly impressive and he’s been injured of late of as well.
possible let down when a guy he's probably never heard of took the mat. need a lot more data. also need to see joe lee at some point.
 
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Definitely Negron came out of nowhere and what a fun surprise. Definitely the highlight of the meet for me. Love to see him in some more matches. He never really has wrestled on a college team until this year and he decides to transfer to PS and join the best team in the nation, That's crazy. Seems like he loves to wrestle and wants to get better. Obviously not much experience. Love seeing this offense. He just needs some more experience and more coaching. At least he is a new option at 157.
 
I am going to play the bad guy here. Negron was impressive, but I’d like to see a much larger sample size before taking too much away. Humphreys’ results this year haven’t been overly impressive and he’s been injured of late of as well.
Humphries lost a match to Penn's 19th ranked ,Zaph and pinned OSU Hunter Willits ranked 12th. MFed out of the Journeyman for possible unknown non serious injury. I'm not saying press the accelerator, but Humphries is fine and I don't want to diminish his performance.
 
I'm not making any predictions obviously for what he'll do this year. Main reason, I remember Carson Kuhn getting 3 takedowns on NATO in the first, nearly pinning him even if it weren't for a scorer's table and everyone saying he just needs to get in shape and he's an All American.

All I'm saying is kid clearly earned a shot to show what he can do and I'm happy to have him.
 
I'm betting he and Bearclaw are pretty close in the room. Let's not forget TB lost a close decision to Zapf who in turn beat Humphries a few weeks ago.

I love the way Negron wrestles though. I think a kid who is willing to go on the offense and take chances will learn/improve more than a kid who's always on the defense.

It's too early to give up on TB though.
 
I'm not making any predictions obviously for what he'll do this year. Main reason, I remember Carson Kuhn getting 3 takedowns on NATO in the first, nearly pinning him even if it weren't for a scorer's table and everyone saying he just needs to get in shape and he's an All American.

All I'm saying is kid clearly earned a shot to show what he can do and I'm happy to have him.
That's where I'm at.
 
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I've checked Rokfin, Flo & politely asked Google for a video of yesterday's dual with no luck. Would really like to see the 157 match, anyone have a link handy that they can share?
 
Like I mentioned in the thread, I think there's more than meets the eye here with Joe Lee if we can't even get him an extra match, whether at 157 or 165. Obviously 100% speculation here but wouldn't be shocked if avoided surgery from his knee injury last year (to not miss time) and it's not healing well with just rehab.
 
Here’s what I got:
Vs an experienced wrestler, unknown guy shows up with an ankle pic in his pocket. He then proceeds to whip it out 5 times. And mostly succeeded.

He showed us his. I’m good with that. Lol.


(ball in the air above the basket, dunk coming in 5,4,3….)
 
possible let down when a guy he's probably never heard of took the mat. need a lot more data. also need to see joe lee at some point.
Tbh - Lehigh had an upset brewing as of 157 and a ton of momentum after Bartlett got beat. Humphreys should have smelled blood in the water if anything at that point if it was as guy he's never heard of.

There's a lot of data on Negron actually, he wrestled a ton of opens and nothing about those results said he should have even been able to hold Humphreys to a decision let alone take him to the brink so it leaves a lot of fans curious. Like I said, not making any predictions on him right now but very intrigued now.
 
Here’s what I got:
Vs an experienced wrestler, unknown guy shows up with an ankle pic in his pocket. He then proceeds to whip it out 5 times. And mostly succeeded.

He showed us his. I’m good with that. Lol.


(ball in the air above the basket, dunk coming in 5,4,3….)

 
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It was one enjoyable match, even if it was a loss. The effort and energy were certainly there, which is a big part of what the coaches look for. The thought of wanting to see more makes sense too, going overboard with expectation doesn't. Whatever happens, the coaches only provide the environment, the rest comes from the wrestlers. Here's hoping young Negron becomes the best version of himself as a wrestler.
 
After watching the match several more times here is my revised take:

1 - The match was as enjoyable as live. The horrible reffing tough to take more than once.

2 - Slick ankle picks with that large wingspan definitely a strength, but it's he a one trick pony? Maybe. Without snaps & go behinds, singles, doubles,... He will be figured out quickly. Does he have more in his arsenal, maybe but one move 5x in one match is a lot.

3 - he needs to finish. He can get a guy on the mat, but he had major issues with securing and maintaining control.

4 - No top game. Looks like catch and release whether he wants to our not.

5 - He is quick and athletic, but 'very' raw for sure. Another year in the room may do wonders, but will he be ready this year? I sense he might have caught lightning in a bottle this first time out. I am hoping my assessment skills are totally lacking because the kid was exciting.

Despite my pre/early season coolaid drinking regarding the Claw, I think we are nearing a good sample of his work. He could qualify, but even 1 win at nationals is probably all we can expect.

That brings me back to Joe. It's he hurt, is he recovering, is he having trouble with the cut? Something big is wrong on that front, and none of us knows the full story. How do you go from a very strong redshirt campaign, too a national qualifier, to the heir apparent at a new weight, to nothing. Other than the reference to the wrestleoff with the Claw - absolute silence, a void of nothingness. Nonetheless, I think a gassed weaker Joe at 157 is probably our best option all things considered.

Well the national duals and the Scuffle should remove the fog for all of us.

Today though, as the famous Yukon Cornelius once said " Fog as thick as peanut butter".

 
Negron has tons of heart and want to be good. He's was at NC st RTC training for a little while before he enrolled at a D1
 
After watching the match several more times here is my revised take:

1 - The match was as enjoyable as live. The horrible reffing tough to take more than once.

2 - Slick ankle picks with that large wingspan definitely a strength, but it's he a one trick pony? Maybe. Without snaps & go behinds, singles, doubles,... He will be figured out quickly. Does he have more in his arsenal, maybe but one move 5x in one match is a lot.

3 - he needs to finish. He can get a guy on the mat, but he had major issues with securing and maintaining control.

4 - No top game. Looks like catch and release whether he wants to our not.

5 - He is quick and athletic, but 'very' raw for sure. Another year in the room may do wonders, but will he be ready this year? I sense he might have caught lightning in a bottle this first time out. I am hoping my assessment skills are totally lacking because the kid was exciting.

Despite my pre/early season coolaid drinking regarding the Claw, I think we are nearing a good sample of his work. He could qualify, but even 1 win at nationals is probably all we can expect.

That brings me back to Joe. It's he hurt, is he recovering, is he having trouble with the cut? Something big is wrong on that front, and none of us knows the full story. How do you go from a very strong redshirt campaign, too a national qualifier, to the heir apparent at a new weight, to nothing. Other than the reference to the wrestleoff with the Claw - absolute silence, a void of nothingness. Nonetheless, I think a gassed weaker Joe at 157 is probably our best option all things considered.

Well the national duals and the Scuffle should remove the fog for all of us.

Today though, as the famous Yukon Cornelius once said " Fog as thick as peanut butter".

There is no other board, or anywhere else that I frequent, that I get a Yukon Cornelius quote and YouTube clip. Pure gold I tell you!! The wrestling talk is good and all, but its the extras that make the site!!
 
finally got around to watching this one. definitely not 2 at the end, but rivera blew it by calling it 2 on the mat when it wasn't, so negron spent his last 7-8 seconds just hanging on instead of trying to finish.
 
After watching the match several more times here is my revised take:

1 - The match was as enjoyable as live. The horrible reffing tough to take more than once.

2 - Slick ankle picks with that large wingspan definitely a strength, but it's he a one trick pony? Maybe. Without snaps & go behinds, singles, doubles,... He will be figured out quickly. Does he have more in his arsenal, maybe but one move 5x in one match is a lot.

3 - he needs to finish. He can get a guy on the mat, but he had major issues with securing and maintaining control.

4 - No top game. Looks like catch and release whether he wants to our not.

5 - He is quick and athletic, but 'very' raw for sure. Another year in the room may do wonders, but will he be ready this year? I sense he might have caught lightning in a bottle this first time out. I am hoping my assessment skills are totally lacking because the kid was exciting.

Despite my pre/early season coolaid drinking regarding the Claw, I think we are nearing a good sample of his work. He could qualify, but even 1 win at nationals is probably all we can expect.

That brings me back to Joe. It's he hurt, is he recovering, is he having trouble with the cut? Something big is wrong on that front, and none of us knows the full story. How do you go from a very strong redshirt campaign, too a national qualifier, to the heir apparent at a new weight, to nothing. Other than the reference to the wrestleoff with the Claw - absolute silence, a void of nothingness. Nonetheless, I think a gassed weaker Joe at 157 is probably our best option all things considered.

Well the national duals and the Scuffle should remove the fog for all of us.

Today though, as the famous Yukon Cornelius once said " Fog as thick as peanut butter".

That's a fair assessment . Very raw and still learning. Great ankle pick though and fun to watch . I agree on finishing and we haven't really seen much of him on top or bottom. Definitely good on his feet.This seems like his first real team he has been on. With more experience and coaching, he could be interesting wrestler fro PS. Joe Lee stuff is a total mystery!
 
2 - Slick ankle picks with that large wingspan definitely a strength, but it's he a one trick pony? Maybe. Without snaps & go behinds, singles, doubles,... He will be figured out quickly. Does he have more in his arsenal, maybe but one move 5x in one match is a lot.
Have you ever watched David Taylor wrestle a match?
 
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2 - Slick ankle picks with that large wingspan definitely a strength, but it's he a one trick pony? Maybe. Without snaps & go behinds, singles, doubles,... He will be figured out quickly. Does he have more in his arsenal, maybe but one move 5x in one match is a lot.
Maybe the single leg he hit for the final takedown at the end when Humphreys was nearly in a four point stance (that was questionably overturned)? Might be an option. Based on the circumstances, I'm going to surmise he's pretty adept at it.
 
Not mentioned yet is his stance. Tall/lean body type allows him to keep his legs far away from his opponent. We’ll see how that works out while hand fighting and opponents that are good at creating angles.
 
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