explaining the mouth at B10s????

[WildTurk]

The more I think about this, I would be almost certain that what Terry Brands did in this case would be (1) against Iowa's institutional policy of code of conduct and/or (2) against NCAA policy.

Perhaps the AD at Iowa would like to review this?

Maybe you should call and snitch on him. Might make you feel better!

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

The more I think about this, I would be almost certain that what Terry Brands did in this case would be (1) against Iowa's institutional policy of code of conduct and/or (2) against NCAA policy.

Perhaps the AD at Iowa would like to review this?

Maybe not the AD, but certainly the compliance office.

 

[dunkej01]

The more I think about this, I would be almost certain that what Terry Brands did in this case would be (1) against Iowa's institutional policy of code of conduct and/or (2) against NCAA policy.

Perhaps the AD at Iowa would like to review this?

Pretty sure the compliance dept is towel deep in the Lee sauna video.

#cleanestcomplianceinwrestling

 

[Ban Basketball]

Maybe you should call and snitch on him. Might make you feel better!

As someone who knows a little something about public employment in Iowa, there are clear expectations of those who earn their money on the taxpayer's dime. I also suspect that within that code of conduct for public employees, mocking an athlete from an opposing team by a public official is likely not tolerated and grounds for severe reprimand.

Now, you CERTAINLY can't say that you want your public employees wantonly violating public policy, right?

 

[Ban Basketball]

Maybe not the AD, but certainly the compliance office.

Due to chain of command, I suspect that the AD is where the initial complaint could be levied.

 

[Aardvark86]

Maybe you should call and snitch on him. Might make you feel better!

I think such conduct is reserved for vodka...

 

[nitlion6]

Maybe you should call and snitch on him. Might make you feel better!

Any chance Iowa's compliance office would take the call?

 

[Ban Basketball]

Any chance Iowa's compliance office would take the call?

They would have to. If a complaint is waged, they would have to take it and then investigate whether a violation has occurred (I'm pretty sure that it would be a violation). Any claims must be investigated, so, yes, the case would be looked into.

Iowa has a specific athletic compliance office, but I believe that that is more for Title IX and equality compliance.

 

[Ban Basketball]

Perhaps they already have, but I'd be beyond stunned if someone within the Rutgers organization doesn't wage a claim. Again, no place for that with state, public employees.

 

[nitlion6]

I think this is terrible
Iowa's compliance office refusing to address compliance by Iowa's assistant head wrestling coach. Proof the Hawkeyes are cheating. Shame.

 

[Ban Basketball]

I think this is terrible
Iowa's compliance office refusing to address compliance by Iowa's assistant head wrestling coach. Proof the Hawkeyes are cheating. Shame.

As I said, they WON'T refuse to address it if a complaint is waged. Federal law requires them to investigate it, regardless of how warranted (this case) or unwarranted (not this case) it is.

Again, I can't say this conclusively, but coming from a guy who knows a thing or two about public employment, I'd be certain that Brands has violated his code of conduct obligations. You just can't do that.

 

[nitlion6]

As I said, they WON'T refuse to address it if a complaint is waged. Federal law requires them to investigate it, regardless of how warranted (this case) or unwarranted (not this case) it is.

Again, I can't say this conclusively, but coming from a guy who knows a thing or two about public employment, I'd be certain that Brands has violated his code of conduct obligations. You just can't do that.

I am just playing.
I am sure the boys have been pulled into the principal's office for behavior issues once or twice.

 

[dunkej01]

I am just playing.
I am sure the boys have been pulled into the principal's office for behavior issues once or twice.

yeah they were called in and given contract extensions.....just say'n

 

[nitlion6]

yeah they were called in and given contract extensions.....just say'n

I've said it numerous times. The TnT boys have a pretty solid record and I hope Iowa hangs on to them for as long as possible. Then when they choose to go another direction I hope they go all in on a damn solid hire the year before David Taylor is available.

 

[Mpchillin]

They would have to. If a complaint is waged, they would have to take it and then investigate whether a violation has occurred (I'm pretty sure that it would be a violation). Any claims must be investigated, so, yes, the case would be looked into.

Iowa has a specific athletic compliance office, but I believe that that is more for Title IX and equality compliance.

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

 

[minnhawkeye]

LOL and you say HR is crazy and makes up shit come on guys give me a break ok ..

 

[lookleft goright]

Please tell me that we have not sunken to the level that in a moment of excitement a coach can't say something to his wrestler. Unless I heard it wrong Brands said "now he knows he has to wrestle a full match against you." or something close to that. He also said it to his wrestler after the guy had taken or gotten multiple time out for in the previous match between them.
People have often said Lewis is a p*nk and now they are saying Terry broke some code of compliance and think a complaint will or has been issued.
Poking a ref in the back - ok that is over the top. This is not. IMHO

 

[LetsGoRUwrestling]

Terry was so lucky to dodge the putting his hands on the official during the match against Illinois..If the ref had the balls to stop the match (simple call) and deduct a team point then Iowa would have lost that match to Illinois on criteria..That would of been interesting!

 

[raslen007]

Please tell me that we have not sunken to the level that in a moment of excitement a coach can't say something to his wrestler. Unless I heard it wrong Brands said "now he knows he has to wrestle a full match against you." or something close to that. He also said it to his wrestler after the guy had taken or gotten multiple time out for in the previous match between them.
People have often said Lewis is a p*nk and now they are saying Terry broke some code of compliance and think a complaint will or has been issued.
Poking a ref in the back - ok that is over the top. This is not. IMHO

Somewhat agree - but the IA faithful should not be surprised or appalled by the response when the kid the coach was speaking of reverses the events and gives it rite back. After all the coach is the one that should strive for the higher ground.

 

[SRATH]

Sorry but what was he saying?

I am with you. It sounds like a walkie talkie from the 70’s....... but the video is funny.

 

[Ban Basketball]

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

I'm dead serious. If a complaint is waged, the institution is required, by Federal law, to at least have to investigate it.

I'm not smart enough to be able to just conjure something like that up, but I do know it by experience.

 

[Ban Basketball]

LOL and you say HR is crazy and makes up shit come on guys give me a break ok ..

Tell us what's made up. Brands' comment? The fact that if a complaint is made that it would have to be investigated?

 

[Ban Basketball]

Please tell me that we have not sunken to the level that in a moment of excitement a coach can't say something to his wrestler. Unless I heard it wrong Brands said "now he knows he has to wrestle a full match against you." or something close to that. He also said it to his wrestler after the guy had taken or gotten multiple time out for in the previous match between them.
People have often said Lewis is a p*nk and now they are saying Terry broke some code of compliance and think a complaint will or has been issued.
Poking a ref in the back - ok that is over the top. This is not. IMHO

He said, "He can't wrestle a full match," directly to the wrestler, not HIS wrestler, as you wrongly imply.

Without knowing his SPECIFIC code of conduct that he is to follow as a coach of aa state institution, I can tell you as someone who knows a thing or two about codes of conduct in state institutions that it's doubtful that his code of conduct allows him to mock an athlete of an opposing team.

Facts are stupid things, as Reagan said.

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Mountain meet mole hill. Not a Richie Lewis fan by any stretch of the imagination but this is much ado about nothing in my opinion. How many times has a coach at any level said he can't wrestle a full match? I'm guessing infinity.

 

[Ban Basketball]

It's not really within OUR ability to make the decision as to whether or not it's a mountain or a mole hill. That's within the purview of the compliance office and/or AD office, which I suspect would not view it as a mole hill.

Fans and institutions have and must go by different standards, and I'll say, thank goodness for that.

 

[Mpchillin]

He said, "He can't wrestle a full match," directly to the wrestler, not HIS wrestler, as you wrongly imply.

Without knowing his SPECIFIC code of conduct that he is to follow as a coach of aa state institution, I can tell you as someone who knows a thing or two about codes of conduct in state institutions that it's doubtful that his code of conduct allows him to mock an athlete of an opposing team.

Facts re stupid things, as Reagan said.

#FakeNews, your UNI bias is showing

 

[Dogwelder]

He said, "He can't wrestle a full match," directly to the wrestler, not HIS wrestler, as you wrongly imply...

So Brands said “He” directly to Lewis to refer to Lewis? Wouldn’t Brands have needed to say “You” to Lewis to refer to Lewis?

Do he know what I mean? And by “he”, I mean “you”.

 

[Mpchillin]

If a basketball coach says “he can’t guard you” or a football coach says “he can’t block you” within earshot of the player, then he needs to be investigated for violating a code of conduct?

 

[Ban Basketball]

#FakeNews, your UNI bias is showing

Fake news?! I didn't realize that I was a reporter! Well, thanks for the promotion to news reporter!

Bias doesn't necessarily equate with inaccuracy; it's the age old debate within the social sciences about value-free research. We're ALL biased, but that doesn't mean that our biased view is inaccurate. I'm biased toward gravity being real, which, I don't believe, makes it inaccurate that it's real, correct?

Again, it's not really for us to decide, but it is for the institution that has put policy in place to decide whether it violates his code of conduct.

 

[Ban Basketball]

So Brands said “He” directly to Lewis to refer to Lewis? Wouldn’t Brands have needed to say “You” to Lewis to refer to Lewis?

Do he know what I mean? And by “he”, I mean “you”.

Not my decision to make; I don't know how they would interpret Brands' statement.

 

[Ban Basketball]

If a basketball coach says “he can’t guard you” or a football coach says “he can’t block you” within earshot of the player, then he needs to be investigated for violating a code of conduct?

I don't know about that circumstance. I only know about this one, where a coach, who has a very specific code of conduct with which to follow, said to an opposing athlete, "He can't wrestle a full match." I would suspect that mocking an athlete in this manner is not within the expectations of his code of conduct.

Again, not my decision to make, so I'm not aa good one to ask.

 

[Mpchillin]

I don't know about that circumstance. I only know about this one, where a coach, who has a very specific code of conduct with which to follow, said to an opposing athlete, "He can't wrestle a full match." I would suspect that mocking an athlete in this manner is not within the expectations of his code of conduct.

Again, not my decision to make, so I'm not aa good one to ask.

You continue to say it’s a violation when you don’t even know what the code of conduct is.

 

[raslen007]

My view is it probably does happen a lot where "certain" coaches shoot their mouths off. Just don't be surprised when the participant responds when they get the better of you. Surprised so many IA fans had a problem with him responding directly to the party that was doing the mouthing.

 

[horraybeer]

You continue to say it’s a violation when you don’t even know what the code of conduct is.

I don't care, but didn't Brands call Lewis a paper World Champ at Midlands?

 

[WildTurk]

Ban is really making himself seem soft. Man card taken

 

[Mpchillin]

I don't care, but didn't Brands call Lewis a paper World Champ at Midlands?

Nah, Marinelli said he was a World Champ at a non-Olympic weight.

 

[Ban Basketball]

You continue to say it’s a violation when you don’t even know what the code of conduct is.

All I've said is this: knowing a thing or two about universities' institutional codes of conduct, both internally and on the Federal level, there are specific codes of conduct that are spelled out for such employees.

It would be my GUESS, without seeing Iowa's specific code for their coaches, that this would likely fall within violation of their code of conduct. Please correct me if I've said anything outside of this.

 

[Ban Basketball]

Ban is really making himself seem soft. Man card taken

No, just offering a somewhat informed view of what said policies entail. Whether or not the case would be in violation, I can't make that decision, and nor do I want to.

 

[WildTurk]

Sounds like you you want to. I say go for it. See what your response is. Im curious

 

[Ban Basketball]

And, if folks have the fear that I'm going to be the hero to report this possible infraction, no, I decided a few years back that I'm not going to be anyone's hero any longer, but I do think that it warrants being looked into, and I'd be surprised if the Rutgers organization isn't looking into it..