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Failed to follow the suggestion of others.

I’ll reserve judgement to see if any injuries are announced. Regardless, if you are the ref, you shouldn’t stop that match while in a perfecting legal and non-dangerous pinning combo
 
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He deserves his own thread. His act was was more disgraceful than his handspring TD attempt at NCAA two years ago.

There was no move that was potentially dangerous leading the the first cradle. He whined his way out of being pinned.

the second was exactly the same and the ref should have let the action continue.

Gibbons and Johnson grasped at straws trying to decide the injury and ADS faked a limp.

His act is BS and an insult to wrestlers who work their asses off.


PSU fan here, but IMHO you’ve got this one wrong sport. I’m sure this will prove itself out in very short order. I think you’re going to find out that he is hurt. Not sure how bad, but this isn’t DeSanto mo.
 
I actually thought he did tweak it on the first cradle attempt. But who knows. Hope he is ok and RBY kicks his ass at Bigs and Nationals.
 
I never would question another wrestler's injury. Especially in a scenario where he gives up 6 team points. Let's just hope he is OK. Because from what I've seen tonight, RBY has his number. Let's just focus on SeaBass and Gross. Maybe we ar elooking at 4 NCAA Champs!
Never?? The same guy who back handspringes to almost injure a wrestler at NCAA’s and can’t control his emotions? He didn’t like getting into a cradle.....
 
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The guy from his couch starting a thread because he knows another wrestler faked his injury and his limp to avoid the 6 point pin so that he could give up the 6 point injury default instead. And then to say that it was more disgraceful than his act against Micic. I mean wow. You must be real jacked up from your couch there buddy, huh? Have another beer and do some deep breathing exercises.
 
PSU fan here, but IMHO you’ve got this one wrong sport. I’m sure this will prove itself out in very short order. I think you’re going to find out that he is hurt. Not sure how bad, but this isn’t DeSanto mo.

PSU grad/fan here as well and I agree. I saw Desanto's knee bend outwards and he seemed to panic causing the stoppage. Tough call but health is important.That said Roman looked awesome with his counters and aggression. I sincerely hope Austin isn't hurt. What a dual meet!!
 
The guy from his couch starting a thread because he knows another wrestler faked his injury and his limp to avoid the 6 point pin so that he could give up the 6 point injury default instead. And then to say that it was more disgraceful than his act against Micic. I mean wow. You must be real jacked up from your couch there buddy, huh? Have another beer and do some deep breathing exercises.
Good luck with your guy. Guess you missed the limp missing strut after the handshake. I’ve wrestled enough and coached enough to know what happened there.
 
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Good luck with your guy. Guess you missed the limp missing strut after the handshake. I’ve wrestled enough and coached enough to know what happened there.
looked like RBY pulled the ankle out and not necessarily against the joint... meaning I don't think it was a malicious or potentially dangerous situation
 
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Only thing I question is that it didnt bother him when RBY had his ankle and Desanto jumped out of it. I am not a doctor but I would think that would hurt if cradle does.
 
He deserves his own thread. His act was was more disgraceful than his handspring TD attempt at NCAA two years ago.

There was no move that was potentially dangerous leading the the first cradle. He whined his way out of being pinned.

the second was exactly the same and the ref should have let the action continue.

Gibbons and Johnson grasped at straws trying to decide the injury and ADS faked a limp.

He then strutted off the mat completely indignant.

His act is BS and an insult to wrestlers who work their asses off.
I think Gibbons even agrees with you.
 
I’d like to know how the team point was deducted. You could see TorT lean over AD and say “no more” several times.

As far as the injury, IMO he looked fine the entire match other than when the cradles were locked. It was strange to say the least.
 
Congrats on beating a depleted PSU team at home by 2 points.
Yes they must be proud thought they would want to beat the A squad but congrats Iowa for winning the dual and giving us all a lot more hope for March as many holes we showed in out lineup tonight I think we exposed a lot in their lineup as well. They are not good at 41 49 57 and 97 in regards to scoring bonus.
 
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It's pretty classless to accuse him of faking an injury. Go to :40:



You can see RBY yank the knee out. Desanto cried out immediately and the ref was on top of them right away. Penn State's experience with the Suriano and Nolf injuries should be enough for you guys to understand that these freak things happen. Even if he's not hurt that bad, that initial pain can be terrifying. I've sprained and torn the same ligament on my left knee on separate occasions. The pain with the sprain was way worse. In fact, I walked on the tear for a week because the pain wasn't as bad as the sprain, so I didn't think it was bad.
 
A vocal few may be saying he was faking, but I think that is the minority. DeSanto has never backed down from a match, and quitting is not his style. I am sure he felt something and I hope it isn't serious. I want them to meet again so RBY can finish cradle and pin he had set up twice.
 
I’d like to know how the team point was deducted. You could see TorT lean over AD and say “no more” several times.

As far as the injury, IMO he looked fine the entire match other than when the cradles were locked. It was strange to say the least.
I agree.First of all RBY looked great.He looked likehe had his number. Odd they stopped the match twice when he was cradled. He walks off the mat unassisted and comes out later with no knee wrap or brace.That being said, I can't say he wasn't injured. It just was oddly called match
 
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I thought he limped coming on the mat to kinda shake hands, but when he turned and walked away he seemed to have lost the limp.
And like that ... he is gone.

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PSU fan here, but IMHO you’ve got this one wrong sport. I’m sure this will prove itself out in very short order. I think you’re going to find out that he is hurt. Not sure how bad, but this isn’t DeSanto mo.

This exactly. Not a fan of either teams, just fans of certain wrestlers and wrestling in general, I think OP is way out of line. Smh
 
I have a ton of respect for @CowbellMan, but from my seat on the couch, I squirmed the second RBY grabbed the toes and turned the foot outward on a cemented knee joint. I immediately thought MCL sprain or tear.

That said, I did also notice some variability in the limp the rest of the way. I don't know what that means. DeSanto is kind of a rara avis. Who knows what was going on with mind and body.

I'm giving DeSanto benefit of the doubt, as his reactions were instantaneous, 6 team pts are a big deal, and who would fake that?!
 
Ya come on guys..Desanto was hurt how bad find out Sunday when they go to Mich State..Guys in D1 u don't fake a injury and default out and give the other team 6 points..You got your 6 points so why the bad talk. All u have to do is look what cost you the dual..Hall got cocky with Kem and Kem proved he can stay with him n your big heavy will never beat Cass maybe Kerk will next year. Feel sorry for Shak he just has not got it yet and time is running maybe in five weeks he be better he is only a bout half of what he was..
 
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Wondering if the team point was deducted for Desanto possibly swearing? Didn’t see anything else that may have resulted in the point. We all know when in pain a few choice words can fly. Hopefully he’s ok. Iowa has a heck of a team and we’re gonna need some of our guys to step up, as well as a guy or two of theirs to falter come March.

-Meredith battled, and not getting pinned was as much as you can ask.
-RBY was super quick locking up the cradle and unfortunately Desanto got hurt. Once again wish him the best.
-Lee is a machine and excited to see him and pletcher line up across from each other. That has Saturday night at the dance written all over it.
-Verk battled but it seems if he doesn’t get a quick takedown he doesn’t get any. Hopefully he continues to build confidence and will open up a touch more. He doesn’t have to get 4 tds a match, but he will need more than one.
-Pipher continues to battle and has a great gas tank. Hopefully Berge is ok and will get back on the mat before BIGs. I don’t like that tournament being his first competition back.
-Cenzo finally gets the monkey off his back and beats bull. I’m guessing these two meet again atleast in the finals of BIGs and this might be the year bull gets the monkey off his back and makes a run deep in the winners bracket.
-Hall, this one hurt. Seemed to be out of gas early, and the first time this year he’s looked as such. A lot of emotion in the match, possibly it got to him. I didn’t see anything in this match that tells me he can’t be Kemerer. Hats off to Kemerer as he’s a local guy and I’ve always been a fan of his.
-Brooks is special, and he’s only gonna get better. What a match going into carver, keeping his composure, and beating another talented freshman. This will be a great matchup for the coming years.
-Shak still worries me. I think Beard wins that match, but I still think Shak has looked atleast better every match ( maybe wishful thinking ). He took more shots ( although a good portion not real attempts ). I’m hopeful he surprises everyone and finds his confidence and another gear come tournament time. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t think the coaches are having conversations about pulling the shirt.
-Snacks has looked good and ran into someone who has looked better. I think it’s a different match if he converts that first takedown. I’m glad he got to feel the ride Cass uses now, it’ll greatly help him next time around. Not saying he will, but I think snacks can beat him. Time will tell.
 
Seriously guys, he gave up 6 pts injury defaulting out. This thread is as bad as you claim hr is.
I definitely can’t go along with the claim DeSanto was faking. I was annoyed at the stoppage in the moment and so wanted the RBY pin, but there’s no mistaking that DeSanto was in pain and nearly in tears coming out of the 2nd cradle. You could see him practically sob to TnT that he couldn’t continue. Definitely not in his nature to quit or forfeit 6 pts. I suspect the ref, who was very close to the action, audibly heard a pop or DeSanto crying out in pain and that’s why he stopped it.
 
Seriously.....When you are dealing with Ligaments.....it isn't always crystal clear. I tore my ACL......but my foot was pointing backwards.....pretty easy to see. In Shak's case.....Venz just twisted the foot a bit.....and it tore the ACL. Densanto's looked very similar to that. Whether he strained it or worse.....I can tell you from experience. When I tore it completely......it hurt far less than when I later popped it out of place and stretched it. FAR less. Desanto has always been the tough one. I ..and you....must give him the benefit of the doubt. I can Personally guarantee that a stretch or partial tear hurts far more than a complete tear. Not even close. I actually wanted to go back in the game because the pain was minimal...….until the foot went backwards again...…...Damned near threw up......it still didn't hurt much but was truly disgusting to look at your foot on backwards. I agreed to take myself out of the game.....even though I felt minimal pain. Adrenalin is amazing. They should sell that sh#t.
 
This exactly. Not a fan of either teams, just fans of certain wrestlers and wrestling in general, I think OP is way out of line. Smh
Then this will be the first time. I have enough experience to know when a wrestler doesn’t want to be pinned. And this was one. This wrestler has not earned enough respect to be given a lead line.

even Gibbons and Johnson waffled between an eye poke and a knee trying to figure out what could possibly have happened. That was a kid who didn’t like the upcoming result, and the result was a wave on a cradle.

yep. We lost. But the curb stomp so many expected didn’t happen. I’m not interested in that. Wrestlers fight their asses off. People like James English. If I’m way off, I’ll apologize. Promise. I’ll do it. Otherwise, his act remains what it is.
 
I don't know whether DeSanto was truly injured once or twice or not at all, but I do think bailing out in order not to get pinned is within his character based on what we've seen so far from him. He often acts like a bully, and most bullies deep down are insecure cowards.

Being pinned would have been a worse embarrassment for him than faking an injury. And he has more than once tried to injure his opponents when he either couldn't beat them or when he was beating them badly. If he is back on the mat in no time, well then we have some indication of what happened.

In the meantime, what's wrong with a little schadenfreude in recalling the way RBY took him down and cranked him over twice in a cradle and also gave him a hell of a ride in the first period. De Santo's face went from cocky to cry baby.
 
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