LOL. It's hysterical that when I bring up things that are relevant to the conversation you accuse me of trying to get attention.
Definitely not lying. Let's not start this BS again. I haven't lied on this board about myself. It was quite upsetting at the time (do you like having your dick grabbed in public by unattractive women?) but I rarely think about it today.
Do you have any stats on how successful those cases are? Non-workplace, not involving minors. I'm guessing not very.
There is nothing wrong with discussing this topic civilly. Unfortunately, when some people (mostly Nole, but sometimes you as well), run out of coherent arguments you start in with personal attacks, which not only derails the civil conversation but bring the whole board down into the gutter.
Because the facts support that he IS innocent.
Please tell us who your friend is otherwise this is just made up nonsense.
He isn't and the facts bear that out.
The Supreme Court makes mistakes. They are getting ready to make another big one:
www.cnn.com
Why do you care? Have you ever been sexually assaulted? If not, I understand this better than you do.
Yes it is. No mention of PSU in the major infractions database. No mention of infractions in the text from the NCAA. There were no infractions. Full stop.
You citing the same thing over and over doesn't change the fact that is doesn't mention infractions.
They walked them back because they overstepped their authority and were wrong.
Who had nothing but glowing things to say about PSU (and if you read between the lines of his comments, disagreed with Freeh that there was ever a "culture" problem at PSU)
Agreed, which is how we know the NCAA overstepped their bounds by operating outside of their authority and bylaws.
Show me. https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search?types=major&q
You are a hypocrite as you started the incivility in this thread as was pointed out by others. You are as equally guilty of snark and insult as any of us. You are a hypocrite.
They do not
Show us verifiable proof of your background otherwise it is just made up nonsense. Not photo shopped screen shots either or medals bought on eBay.
Nope and my post shows why. George Mitchell recommended it.
Once they got rid of the bad eggs, PSU bounced back. You would throw all that out. I refute your "reading between the lines" BS.
Once again
You citing the same thing over and over doesn't change the fact that you can't have sanctions without infractions.
They do not. He was rightfully convicted.
That's a matter of opinion.The Supreme Court makes mistakes. They are getting ready to make another big one:
Supreme Court draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade published by Politico
In a stunning breach of Supreme Court confidentiality and secrecy, Politico has obtained what it calls a draft of a majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito that would strike down Roe v. Wade.
I care for the victims and hate the perpetrators and enablers.
Why is it relevant? Has no relation to what happened to Sandusky's victims. I understand why you hate them because you didn't get justice and they did.
Apparently not as you brought it up out of the blue.
You said it just isn't done. Do you have stats on that?
Not "many", few.
He would be convicted again. Overwhelming evidence and no one would believe the conspiracy theories.
Not being able to handle a last minute document dump by the OAG is not "no good reason." And then when he tried to resign from the case, the judge blocked that too. Unbelievable.
Did they rule specifically about John McQueary? If they did and ruled that it was OK for him to deny testifying about something when the questioning attorney has a copy of his testimony in his hand, then the legal system is truly broken.
Which part isn't true. The OAG absolutely lied in the presentment and got called out (by MM) for it. It is absurd to claim otherwise. My guess is that MM was scared of the OAG (based on his other behaviors) so he took their "request" as a command. Or maybe he's just a coward and realized it was too late to walk anything back and he'd already ruined C/S/S/P's lives.
Doesn't make it right. Doesn't mean that it doesn't affect jury pools. Doesn't mean that it can't affect trial outcomes.
Are you unfamiliar with the term "tried in the media"?
I have it written down somewhere (it would have been 2008 or 2009). It was a Thursday night. It occurred at a bar in the 1800 block of M St NW in Washington DC (that bar isn't there anymore) and on the street outside when I tried to leave to get away from the assailant. Approximate time 11 PM ET.
You can laugh but this is hard evidence that at least one of the civil attorneys was make up assaults.
Because I have no incentive (e.g. millions of dollars) to lie. I also acknowledge that LE would believe me 10 years later, and even if they believed me at the time probably wouldn't have pressed charges due to gender of the assailant.
To show that I have personal experience with this that you (ostensibly) do not.
Definitely not.
They didn't. This whole case was a travesty of justice. Also, I never sought justice in my case, so I have no room to complain (and I'm not complaining).
You haven't posted them once, so you cannot post the "again." If you post something, please tell me on what line the word infractions is used.
Except apparently you can since there are no infractions listed in the database and there are no infractions mentioned on your precious website.
If we were discussing football and you said, "Oh, I played DII football and I realize that's not the same at P5, but here's something I learned that I can relate to this discussion", would that not be relevant to the conversation?
I didn't. It was relevant to the conversation.
Just to be clear, you are asking for stats for crimes that AREN'T reported???
BS they were stalling as they knew Sandusky was guilty. Common tactic that Spanier used unfortunately and delayed justice.
The convictions stood.
He did not call them liars and only said he wasn't 1000% sure that he saw anal sodomy. Overblown.
Your "guess" is speculation and without proof.
He was brave to step forward unlike other assistants who saw CSA and kept quiet,
Doesn't make it unfair either. It's part of the deal.
Pretty vague. Can't even get they year right. Plus you were an adult not a child.Are you unfamiliar with the term "tried in the media"?
There is even a newish documentary series about it:
Watch Trial By Media | Netflix Official Site
In this true crime docuseries, some of the most dramatic trials of all time are examined with an emphasis on how the media may have impacted verdicts.www.netflix.com
I have it written down somewhere (it would have been 2008 or 2009). It was a Thursday night. It occurred at a bar in the 1800 block of M St NW in Washington DC (that bar isn't there anymore) and on the street outside when I tried to leave to get away from the assailant. Approximate time 11 PM ET.
Why isn't he disbarred? Lack of proof that's why.
That is BS. Read Dranov's testimony at Sandusky's trial. Your "source" is BS.I will highlight two things for you.Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
Assistant football coach has said he saw Jerry Sandusky in a Penn State shower with a boy. What exactly he saw, however, differs in grand jury, witness and police accounts.www.pennlive.com
"Dranov told grand jurors that he asked McQueary three times if he saw anything sexual, and three times McQueary said no, according to the source."
See above
How so?
That's not on MM but the OAG. Fail
They didn't either. They had no idea that Sandusky would be convicted and they would be believed.
You don't know that
Your "experience" is apples and oranges to those victims. Not even remotely close. That is, if you aren't lying which I suspect based on your past.
They did and the case was a victory for victims of CSA
Why bring it up?
What was the infraction? It is not listed in theie database. Hence is does not exist. That's pretty clear-cut and proof positive.
Keep reading. Must be your “precious website” too as you keep pointing me to it. LOL
It is not relevant in any way. You’re comparing getting groped by a drunken slut in a bar when you were a grown ass man to little boys getting forcibly sodomized by an adult who groomed them? LOLOLOLOLOL. Yeah, keep that line of logic going as well as Spanier got the same as a “traffic ticket” for EWOC. I’m sure you’ll win over lots of converts. LOLOLOL!
No, you said “it just isn’t done” for men to press charges against women for sexual assault. I asked for proof of that statement which you have none it appears.
The burden is upon you to prove your assertion not me.
I have read it. There is no mention of any infraction on the page you have cited. Help out the dumb kids like me and copy/paste the specific passage that states exactly and specifically what was/were the infraction/(s). Unlike others of superior intellect, I need the breadcrumbs.
Have you read Emmett’s letter to PSU from 2011? Cites the NCAA Constitution and Bylaws. Do you need a link?
Is middle school out already today? Or are you playing hooky?
You seem pretty obsessed as well.
You consistently insult and berate me (e.g. calling me a liar without any evidence). I merely respond in kind.
Oh, we are back to this again? And you were behaving yourself so well...
That's a lie as other posters have pointed out.
Just making sure your hypocrisy is pointed out.
You have shown no such proof. @bourbon n blues has just as much credibility in his statements as yours.
I have told you before what I will accept but you complained to the mods about it so I won't ask again. But I'll wait.
Yes, that is literally what courts do. Offer opinions. They are not perfect (as evidenced in that example).
You don't. You only care about demonstrating how much you care as it allows you by proxy to show how much you hate PSU. Do you spend as much time on MSU, OSU or UM boards stirring up shite about Nassar, Strauss and Anderson? Those cases were all orders of magnitude worse (even if Sandusky allegations were true) and those schools have shown less remorse than PSU did AND they actually affected student athletes. How do you have so many hours in the day to devote to all four cases? LOL.
I've not lied about anything regarding myself on this board. No one has pointed it out because it hasn't happened.
Zero hypocrisy here. You are the hypocrite.
He's shown zero proof. I've shown proof.
First, I've never complained to the mods. Second, you hide behind this excuse a lot. All you'd have to do is link me to the post in which you said it. Or you can just tell me again.
It is relevant, you just refuse to admit it. It isn't *the same* but that's not what relevant means. Learn English please.
You cannot prove a negative.
You cannot prove a negative.
Their opinions are law. You opinion is 💩
I do and that is why I push back against the fringe looney JoeBot wing as I do. Your narrative to not believe accusers would set back the gains made by PSU's punishment.
Wrong. I do not hate PSU and have rooted for them before. They did well in the NFL draft this year. I also, applaud Franklin for refusing to talk about JoePa and Sandusky to ESPN. He knows that is a losing proposition and is smarter than you.
Are their crazies on those sites saying the victims lied for money? are they producing Podcasts who say nothing happened in those scandals?
Children were in play here not adults (who could have pounded Nassar or Anderson). Innocent vulnerable children
Easy to devote a few minutes a day to refute the JoeBots (which on here is mostly you). As long as I am allowed to post I will refute the JoeBot lies with the truth.
Yes, they are and you fail on both
Unless, in your haste to show "how much the NCAA hates child abuse" they overstepped their own rules.
Yes they have
Right back at you Super Chief
No you haven't
Liar
You try to trick me into asking for personal info which will get me banned. I won't fall for it.
I have done so.
You just won't provide the proof.
