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FC: ESPN takes on Penn State once again

Yes, they are and you fail on both
Afraid not. I am truth bombing you.
Unless, in your haste to show "how much the NCAA hates child abuse" they overstepped their own rules.
Sanctions still there
The NCAA didn't even believe they could sanction PSU, but they did anyway.
Some staffers thought that but the fact is they did.

 
Their opinions are law. You opinion is 💩
My opinion is just a valid as theirs. As is yours. You place way too much confidents in the courts. The Supreme Court has also nothing to do with the law and everything to do with politics.
I also, applaud Franklin for refusing to talk about JoePa and Sandusky to ESPN.
Franklin knows the truth and has hinted about it before. He also knows he has nothing to gain by talking about it. He's a smart man.
Are their crazies on those sites saying the victims lied for money? are they producing Podcasts who say nothing happened in those scandals?
I don't frequent their boards, but there are definitely those saying the "Bo didn't know anything, don't you dare tear down the statue" (including their current head coach) even as former players are contradicting him and camping outside the university president's house.
Children were in play here not adults (who could have pounded Nassar or Anderson). Innocent vulnerable children
Wrong. Teenagers. Who were varsity athletes (football and wrestling) who could have pounded the 58 year old man.
Easy to devote a few minutes a day to refute the JoeBots (which on here is mostly you). As long as I am allowed to post I will refute the JoeBot lies with the truth.
You wouldn't know the truth if it sexually assaulted you.
 
It is relevant, you just refuse to admit it. It isn't *the same* but that's not what relevant means. Learn English please.
Take your own advice. It ain't relevant unless you consider a guy who spent one night in jail to be the same as one who spent thirty years. LOLOLOLOL
You cannot prove a negative.
Then your statement is BS
You cannot prove a negative.
Then your statement is BS
 
My opinion is just a valid as theirs.
No it isn't
You place way too much confidents in the courts.
You disregard them when they don't suit your purposes.
The Supreme Court has also nothing to do with the law and everything to do with politics.
Opinion
Franklin knows the truth and has hinted about it before. He also knows he has nothing to gain by talking about it. He's a smart man.
Yeah he knows the truth and it ain't what you believe.
I don't frequent their boards, but there are definitely those saying the "Bo didn't know anything, don't you dare tear down the statue" (including their current head coach) even as former players are contradicting him and camping outside the university president's house.
Not like you crazies. Plus they were adults not children
Wrong. Teenagers. Who were varsity athletes (football and wrestling) who could have pounded the 58 year old man.
BS
You wouldn't know the truth if it sexually assaulted you.
You are sexually assaulting the truth. I'm intervening.
 
You try to trick me into asking for personal info which will get me banned. I won't fall for it.

I have done so.

You just won't provide the proof.
Dude, all you have to do is clarify what you want. Use code words, IDGAF. I am who I say I am and I can prove it. You will never accept being wrong because you are a hypocrite and a liar. You've slung so much shite at me that it would take you years to apologize for each instance of calling me a liar and saying that I participate in stolen valor (which is super insulting and untrue).

Maybe one of your buddies (bourbon might be the only friend you have left) will chime in and tell you how ridiculous you are being about this. I proved I am who I claim to be. And I'm happy to do it again.
 
Dude, all you have to do is clarify what you want.
Transparency
Use code words, IDGAF. I am who I say I am and I can prove it.
I'm waiting
You will never accept being wrong because you are a hypocrite and a liar.
Projecting
You've slung so much shite at me that it would take you years to apologize for each instance of calling me a liar and saying that I participate in stolen valor (which is super insulting and untrue).
It is true
Maybe one of your buddies (bourbon might be the only friend you have left) will chime in and tell you how ridiculous you are being about this. I proved I am who I claim to be. And I'm happy to do it again.
You have not
 
Yep, just like a jury's findings. Not fact, opinion.
Yeah he knows the truth and it ain't what you believe.
he does know the truth and it is exactly what I know (not believe) to me true.
Not like you crazies. Plus they were adults not children

BS
Which part??? Their ages??? Their athletic status? You are wrong on this one.
You are sexually assaulting the truth. I'm intervening.
You have no idea what the truth even looks like.
 
It mentions the bylaws and constitution which the sanctions were based doesn't it? Your point is stupid.
Doesn't mention infractions. That's my point. No infractions were discovered. That's it. Just admit that.
 
Take your own advice. It ain't relevant unless you consider a guy who spent one night in jail to be the same as one who spent thirty years. LOLOLOLOL

Then your statement is BS

Then your statement is BS
All you have to do is show me a couple of examples of successful prosecution of an assault of an adult woman on an adult male. That disproves my negative. That's the way logic works. You can't ask someone to prove a negative because it cannot be done. If I say "there is no such thing as a purple fish", the disproof of that is showing a purple fish. God, you are bad at logic.
 
That's a lie as other posters have pointed out.

Just making sure your hypocrisy is pointed out.

You have shown no such proof. @bourbon n blues has just as much credibility in his statements as yours.

I have told you before what I will accept but you complained to the mods about it so I won't ask again. But I'll wait.
To me it seems very possible that a Pa. resident might know a friend or relative that was on the case. It's very plausible that a member of the PSP might have friends or relatives in Pa. too. then it's pretty possible that they might know more than has been publicly shown.
Not everything is relevant or necessary to show at the trial, however both sides have all of the materials. I don't see why they can't accept this as a possibility and just let this alone. arguing with me changes nothing.
 
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All you have to do is show me a couple of examples of successful prosecution of an assault of an adult woman on an adult male. That disproves my negative. That's the way logic works. You can't ask someone to prove a negative because it cannot be done. If I say "there is no such thing as a purple fish", the disproof of that is showing a purple fish. God, you are bad at logic.
No that isn't logic. You asserted so you must prove it. Otherwise it is BS.
 
Have you read Emmett’s letter to PSU from 2011? Cites the NCAA Constitution and Bylaws. Do you need a link?
Here is simple logic to help you. Breadcrumbs if you will.
1. On the official NCAA website it lists sanctions imposed by the NCAA against PSU.
2. This is the same place that the database you incorrectly cite resides. As explained by the NCAA the crimes of PSU leaders were so egregious that the NCAA used a different process to sanction PSU.
3. You cannot have sanctions without infractions.
Rinse and repeat.
I cannot get to the Emmert letter from work.

Meanwhile, from the other link that you continue to cite, you are interpreting what you think you think you want something to say and disregarding what it actually states in clear, plain English. Nowhere does it state that Penn State was cited for any infraction.
 
To me it seems very possible that a Pa. resident might know a friend or relative that was on the case. It's very plausible that a member of the PSP might have friends or relatives in Pa. too. then it's pretty possible that they might know more than has been publicly shown.
Not everything is relevant or necessary to show at the trial, however both sides have all of the materials. I don't see why they can't accept this as a possibility and just let this alone. arguing with me changes nothing.
More plausible than a "congressional medal" 🤣 😝💩
 
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Have you read Emmett’s letter to PSU from 2011? Cites the NCAA Constitution and Bylaws. Do you need a link?

I cannot get to the Emmert letter from work.
Google is your friend
Meanwhile, from the other link that you continue to cite, you are interpreting what you think you think you want something to say and disregarding what it actually states in clear, plain English. Nowhere does it state that Penn State was cited for any infraction.
3. You cannot have sanctions without infractions.
Rinse and repeat.
 
More plausible than a "congressional medal" 🤣 😝💩
What's even worse is why can't you see a possibility that an investigator would say that their findings support the verdicts? You know, real life decisions? And the actual chain of events was not something PSU wants to talk about anymore? I'm thinking if there was strong evidence supporting Jerry as innocent and PSU was blameless they would have handled it differently.
 
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A verdict is not a mere opinion
Yes, actually it is.
Read between the lines:


He's describing success with honor.
All of it
Alan Meyers played football (Sandusky stood with him on senior night, which was BTW, after alleged abuse) and was 14 at the time of his assault. Not a helpless child.
Well, it sure ain't you
A person cannot be "the truth", so technically you are correct.
 
Is middle school out already today? Or are you playing hooky?

You seem pretty obsessed as well.

Is that the best you got, Shit Stain? I'm a Penn Stater, which explains why I'm on a Penn State football message board discussing topics relevant to Penn State. Why are you here?
 
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Yes, actually it is.
No it is not
Read between the lines:


He's describing success with honor.
I don't see it. Your opinion and speculation. ESPN gave him the opportunity to say what he believed and he didn't. Plus Joe's philosophy on his program is not unique to him. Other coaches have said similar things.
Alan Meyers played football (Sandusky stood with him on senior night, which was BTW, after alleged abuse) and was 14 at the time of his assault. Not a helpless child.
He was not victim 2
A person cannot be "the truth", so technically you are correct.
And you are wrong in that it can sexually assault me.
 
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Is that the best you got, Shit Stain? I'm a Penn Stater, which explains why I'm on a Penn State football message board discussing topics relevant to Penn State. Why are you here?
It's better than what you got and you're not worth more. This doesn't sound like football talk to me. Also, is this a football only board? Better get back to school. Truancy is against the law. 🤣
 
A verdict is not a mere opinion
A verdict most certainly is an opinion. That a verdict was reached is a fact. That the verdict is proof of a crime is an opinion.

A verdict is the decision of a group of people that either belives or does not believe evidence presented to them resulted in a law being broken. Since the decision can be Guilty or Not Guilty, that makes it an opinnion. If a verdict is fact, then verdicts could never be overturned. You cannot change facts. Verdicts can be and are overturned daily. THat is what differentiates fact from opinoin. Facts cannot and do no change.

How do you explain that a verdict is a fact?
 
To me it seems very possible that a Pa. resident might know a friend or relative that was on the case. It's very plausible that a member of the PSP might have friends or relatives in Pa. too. then it's pretty possible that they might know more than has been publicly shown.
Not everything is relevant or necessary to show at the trial, however both sides have all of the materials. I don't see why they can't accept this as a possibility and just let this alone. arguing with me changes nothing.
What is the possibility that your "friend" is a good cop or a crooked cop?
 
A verdict most certainly is an opinion. That a verdict was reached is a fact. That the verdict is proof of a crime is an opinion.

A verdict is the decision of a group of people that either belives or does not believe evidence presented to them resulted in a law being broken. Since the decision can be Guilty or Not Guilty, that makes it an opinnion. If a verdict is fact, then verdicts could never be overturned. You cannot change facts. Verdicts can be and are overturned daily. THat is what differentiates fact from opinoin. Facts cannot and do no change.

How do you explain that a verdict is a fact?
I've explained it before and won't waste time repeating it much more. The jurors are sworn, subject to legal penalty for misconduct in reaching the decision and are given strict legal rules to follow in reaching that verdict. To equate that to a mere opinion "Tom Brady is the GOAT" is stupid. Also, "facts" are often disputed. Often calling something a "fact" is in fact an opinion (like fingerprints and even DNA). You denigrate the verdict cause you don't like it but that too is opinion.
 
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It's better than what you got and you're not worth more. This doesn't sound like football talk to me. Also, is this a football only board? Better get back to school. Truancy is against the law. 🤣

What part of "discussing topics relevant to Penn State" don't you understand, Shit Stain?

So why are you here? Probably to ensure your own pedophilia doesn't get exposed....why else would someone without a Penn State connection spend so much time on here, discussing only this topic?
 
What part of "discussing topics relevant to Penn State" don't you understand, Shit Stain?

So why are you here? Probably to ensure your own pedophilia doesn't get exposed....why else would someone without a Penn State connection spend so much time on here, discussing only this topic?
He’s Roxine.
 
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What part of "discussing topics relevant to Penn State" don't you understand,
Is this topic relevant to Penn State?
Shit Stain?
Silly boy
So why are you here?
Why are you here defending a pedophile and his enablers?
Probably to ensure your own pedophilia doesn't get exposed....why else would someone without a Penn State connection spend so much time on here, discussing only this topic?
How do you know I have no PSU connection?
 
Is this topic relevant to Penn State?

Silly boy

Why are you here defending a pedophile and his enablers?

How do you know I have no PSU connection?

Shit Stain posts on a thread titled "ESPN takes on Penn State once again"....and then asks if the topic is relevant to Penn State.....good stuff!

Not once have I defended you, or the people that allow you to do what you do.
 
BS they were stalling as they knew Sandusky was guilty. Common tactic that Spanier used unfortunately and delayed justice.
So the 11th hour document dump by the prosecution didn't happen? And don't say "that's common practice" because so it granting a continuance. It's absurd how quickly this case was adjudicated.
The convictions stood.
In error.
Overblown.
One of your boilerplate answers for when you have no answer.
Your "guess" is speculation and without proof.
Which is just as much proof as there is that anyone was abused.
Doesn't make it unfair either. It's part of the deal.
Being "part of the deal" does not preclude it from being unfair.
Pretty vague. Can't even get they year right.
How the eff is that vague? I have the exact date (I would just have to look it up in old files and don't have time to do that right now), the approximate time (within an hour) and the exact street address of where the assault occurred. That's orders of magnitude more information that was available at trial.
Why isn't he disbarred? Lack of proof that's why.
Lack of political will to do so.
That is BS. Read Dranov's testimony at Sandusky's trial. Your "source" is BS.
He lied at trial. Not my source.
Your "experience" is apples and oranges to those victims. Not even remotely close.
How so? One kid's complaint was "he put his hand on my knee." That's pretty tame compared to my experience.
That is, if you aren't lying which I suspect based on your past.
Haven't told a lie about myself yet and I don't plan to start.
 
To me it seems very possible that a Pa. resident might know a friend or relative that was on the case. It's very plausible that a member of the PSP might have friends or relatives in Pa. too. then it's pretty possible that they might know more than has been publicly shown.
Not everything is relevant or necessary to show at the trial, however both sides have all of the materials.
First of all, if you do know someone, they aren't unbiased. Anything they say will be slanted towards the OAG.

Second, the OAG uses their "best" evidence at trial. If they don't, that's possibly misconduct. So while there *could* be more information lying around PSP HQ, it is going to be less incriminating than what was used. For those of us who actually followed the trial carefully, what was used was pretty weak, ergo, whatever wasn't used is not a smoking gun.
I don't see why they can't accept this as a possibility and just let this alone. arguing with me changes nothing.
If I accept that you might know someone who has told you this (I'm not saying they are telling the truth, just that this person might exist), will you accept (and tell your buddy Nole) that I am who I say I am, so he can cut all this stolen valor, shite?
 
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