How about we give the players, coaches, and their families the right to make their own informed decisions on what they do with their lives?
FC: Heart condition related to COVID-19 may be reason to cancel/postpone fall sports
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and along those lines.....let them call the plays and decide who starts and when to substitute etc. Because if "decision makers" don't decide the way we think they should, we go to the source. Perhaps college students should decide what comprises a curriculum and then take whatever classes they want and then declare (when they and their families decide) when they are graduates.
One of my best friends growing up caught the flu when he was 23 years old. Virus got to his heart, and he died. That thing does not mess around.
very few people are actually informed on this virus- when the researchers at NIH go back to work in their offices, I'll believe it's safe to play football
Had a friend who was a fitness fanatic suffer a virus that settled in his heart. It was curtains.
SEC would then be willing to play late season games at northern opponents
No one is going back to their offices. Not due to covid, but because it's CHEAPER for companies/govt entities to have their employees work from home.
Then YOU don't play football. But others should be able to make that choice for themselves. And kids and their families are saying loud and clear that they want to play.
Klatt made some good points on B1G network last night. He was stating that this is all about liability for the U presidents. A kid is far more likely to be safe on a team surrounded by trainers, coaches, and physicians than at home or in a dorm. He said 20-year-old kids are going to look for the hottest chick that will swap spit (my words, not his) or beer pong or pass around a bottle of fireball whisky. He said that kids can quarantine before visiting family and that is still better than going home for the weekend once a month like most college kids. He also said "if our goal is zero infections, we lost before we started. That isn't realistic" (paraphrasing, really, before some idiot gets his quotes and fact-checks me). He said the difference is if a kid gets sick it is on the U president's watch whereas if they get sick at home, the president has nothing to do with it.
No. They are also CUMULATIVE risks, not exclusionary. You can get a concussion, THEN get COVID.
I want to take the time to thanks ESPN for caring about the players' health more so than the actual players themselves and the players.
I kind of think it's comical how some on this board are so against endangering the lives of the players, when just in the last 48 hours the players and the players parents pleaded to let them play. I guess they do not care about their health as much as those posters.
I kind of think it's comical how some on this board are so against endangering the lives of the players, when just in the last 48 hours the players and the players parents pleaded to let them play. I guess they do not care about their health as much as those posters.
Here is why I call BS on that.... I am NOT calling your take BS Obliviax, I am calling Klatt's take BS....
Many high schools are opening. Here is GA pretty much every public high school is opening except Fulton Cnty, and all of the private & catholic schools are opening. So, by Klatt's logic, would those administrators in those school districts be liable for lawsuits if a kid gets sick. I live in Fulton County, but about 5 miles from the Forsyth County line. The HS my kids attend is closed (because Fulton County), but the high schools literally 5 miles up the road in Forsyth County are open. In my sub-div, all the kids who attend the catholic area high schools are going back in person...... So are those administrators and county schools boards exempt from lawsuits??
I think we should let the kids decide.....mostly because I know how they will vote and it happens to be what I want.
Question, are we assuming college football players will not (for the "entire season) "swap spit" or "pass around a bottle?" Even if we are foolish enough to think that our choir boys at PSU will take a vow of celibacy and abstinence......do you really think that after an 0-3 or 0-4 start, that this will be the case in Illinois, Maryland, Rutgers......... so they can save their season. A season with no fans that leads to nothing for them? Mix in the possibility that a high profile player gets very ill and possibly develops myocarditis......this is a slippery slope. One must consider what the entire season might look like, not just how it starts when everyone is undefeated and full of optimism.
This entire site is comedy. Game day.....day after....win or lose. So many know more than coaches, doctors etc. Now its just science vs "let them play." If asshole could fly, this would be an airport. I love it!
Public School Districts are most vulnerable on liability issues related to safety and students with special needs.
The concern is participating in strenuous activity with myocarditis. It they have heart failure or a heart attack during practice or a game, it wouldn’t make a difference where they got COVID-19 from.
Or science vs. quarentine them.
Depending on what "science" you subscribe to. I hear some science that says the mortality rate from C-19 for healthy 17-21 year olds is about .0000001%.
My neighbor is an ICU doctor at the CHOA here in Atlanta. They are facing staff cut backs because the hospital is losing money. So many other procedures were post-poned. The issue, is that the expected number of C-19 cases did not meet expectations and they have so many empty beds. The beds they purposely kept open for C-19 patients were never needed. I guess as an ICU doctor at CHOA he would not qualify for science?
The thought is that a) it is a much more controlled environment and b) that there will be tests given at least twice a week and they will have physicians available 7x24.
So if you assume swapping spit is equal, they are still better off playing football due to the testing and medical coverage.
haven't you realized by now??? EVERYTHING IS A TRAVESTY!!!!!!!!!
and only the people who are "woke" are enlightened enough to judge everyone else.
i mean.... why do you hate these kids so much? they're all going to die from COVID if they play. then you'll be proud of yourself. CTE??? psh.... broken bones??? psh.......
COVID!!!!!!!!!!
SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!
DEATH!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s way more than that to a lot of people who’s businesses and jobs depend on it. It’s also way more than that to the players who have put years of hard work into it. And what about the players coming out of high school who have trained and worked for an opportunity only to be told, sorry no room at the inn? Screw all those people as long as it doesn’t bother you or your life.
what about the local hotel owners of small towns that depend on selling out their hotels during game weekends?
what about local restaurant owners?
what about campground owners?
the list goes on. this is much more far reaching than kids in the physical prime of their lives surrounded by medical personnel with every second of their day accounted for and tons of personal accountability to their teammates.
the vast majority of the kids wnat to play (and the ones that don't have opted out)
the parents of the kids (arguably the people who care about their well-being the most) want them to play
the coaches want to play
i don't get it.... i really don't.
@razpsu i'd love to get your opinion here as a business owner. Legit question, on a normal year, if you were to take away the business from the major holidays (memorial day, 4th of july, labor day.... etc) how much of a hit would that cause your restsurant? Granted i think it could be a little different because you're at myrtle, but in the land of the hypothetical, if you were in a small town would that affect you more?
@razpsu, i'd love to get your opinion here. If COVID were
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I really don't care if they play college football or not. But I really care that the kids and their parents are allowed to make their own decisions. Quite frankly, the risk of long-term impact of playing college football on one's brain and joints is much greater than the risk of COVID. If a kid still wants to opt out due to COVID, that's fine. But to shut down the entire sport over COVID is about as wise as sending COVID patients into nursing homes.
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Saban summed it up pretty well- these guys can get this sh-t just as easily not playing football and they have constant monitoring and treatment within the football system.
Let the ones who want to play, play! Stop using BS to decide who or what is necessary or pertinent or essential while Amazon and Walmart inherit the entire US economy...
Let the ones who want to play, play! Stop using BS to decide who or what is necessary or pertinent or essential while Amazon and Walmart inherit the entire US economy...
That is going to be interesting.
When I have been at jobs for a while, where I had established relationships with co-workers and knew the ins and outs of my job well, then I felt I could be more productive working from home 2-3 days a week where I didn't have interruptions.
But, being relatively new to my current position, having to work from home really makes me less productive. I miss being able to pick up a piece of paper, walk to a coworkers desk, ask a question and get an immediate answer without having to compose an E-mail or wait an hour or two because now our days are over half filled with Skype/Zoom/Teams/Chime/WebEx meetings, with kids and pets making noise in the background, or the neighbors next door are cutting their grass, or someone doesn't realize that they are either on or off mute and they are either talking to no one or unintentionally sharing with everyone how much this meeting sucks.
If the president of a company says that they aren’t going to make widgets this year the company doesn’t make widgets that year. If the president of the University says that the football team is not going to play football, the university will not play football. Are going back to the days of the Notre Dame All Stars team playing the Pottsville Maroons?
Do you actually think that even if there is a season, there will be fans?
It really really sucks, it does, but just because some people are cavalier enough to care about a game more than their fellow citizens doesn't mean we need to cater to the selfish ones. Sometimes being a good citizen means caring about people other than yourself.
Dianne Freiermuth cares more about the game than her son? Corey Teague cares more about the game than his son? James Franklin cares more about the game than his players? but you're right... me wanting football this fall is incredibly selfish.
seriously... stop being so damn melodramatic....
Sorry to hear about your friend. I have sent out 4 Sorry for your Loss cards this year. Never sent one out for the flu in my 60 years on this earth. One of my best buddies just got over the Covid. He was scared as hell, told me he did not think he was going to make it. I have had the flu a few times, and pneumonia. Doubt highly they are as bad as this.
Yes. If they were really worried about the long term effects of playing football there would be no football because of head injuries.
The other side is that I know a ton of people, work with a ton of people, my wife works in an essential job, and I don’t know of a single person who got Covid....so there’s that.
Good grief. Can you even see the ground from how high up you are on your high horse?
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