Immigrants are building tech companies and millennials are building Big Macs. We spend over 200k per student on education and they cant even make my fries hot.
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I couldn't resist. Haven't heard from Psychodelic MD lately. He's an unhinged, psychotic, rambling madman, but he's our unhinged, psychotic, rambling madman.
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Did the (ahem) Baby Boomers "blame" the WWII generation for their woes? Of course not. The WWII Generation made certain that their children would be (ahem) better-off than them.
Now, as for the (ahem) Baby Boomers...
YOU. FVCKED. AMERICA.
YOU. FVCKED. THE. MILLENNIALS.
And, I'm gonna make your generation pay.
PAY. YOUR. BILLS. Baby Boomer. PAY. YOUR. BILLS.
I'm much worse. Soon, you Baby Boomers will learn. I exist to turn the Millennials against you. You shouldn't have fvcked an entire generation. SHAME. ON. YOU.
I’m going to go out on an ape limb here and conclude that your bed pan emptying duties ended 30 minutes ago.
Or, more likely, he just took off his blood-stained gloves and surgical gown after a stint in the OR.I’m going to go out on an ape limb here and conclude that your bed pan emptying duties ended 30 minutes ago.
Grow up, PPB.
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maybe it's not just education
remember helicopter parents? nobody ever learned anything by mom and dad doing it for them
The way many companies are acting, I kinda understand that first part. Companies really aren't invested in their workers, other than proving a check, so why should you be? They'll drop you in a hot minute if a better deal comes along.
OTOH, the entitlement thing puzzles me.
And if the trucking industry didn't have a lot of unwritten subsidies, rail would have long ago taken over a lot more of the long haul stuff.
The unwritten subsidy is the interstate and road system. Rail has to pay for it's own system, is taxed on the system (mostly via property taxes), and it forces to subsidize their competitors through the fuel tax, which goes to roads. To be fair, rail had it all their way, including subsidies, during the building of the transcontinental rail system
Some of that is, well, unions. Trains used to be required to have a "fireman", who was the guy who kept the boiler stoked on a steam engine--this lasted many decades after the railroads dieselized.
I have a nephew who is intelligent and hardworking, but only has a high school education. He has been in the trucking industry for about 25 yearsyears. He was CEO of an 80 truck company for about 10 years. He recently returned to driving trucks for the same company. He has a nice condo and family in Southern California. Realize it is a tough job, but it is way better than many alternatives.
I understand that many wouldn't want to do it for their whole life. However, you could plan to work hard and save, and have a nice stake to start a business after 15 years.
I understand that many wouldn't want to do it for their whole life. However, you could plan to work hard and save, and have a nice stake to start a business after 15 years.
My wife roomed with a woman before we were married. This woman married a blue collar worker but essentially did not work herself. They had a daughter while in their mid-40s. The mother fell into depression but would not admit it for fear of losing face. She's religious, believing firmly that if she prays for something she will receive, per a verse in the bible. She and her husband benefited from inheritance, but now those sources of income are gone. Since "God provided" in the past she thinks money will come to them in some way.
The woman and her side of the family went to an expensive private school, which now would cost in total about $300,000 over four years. Their daughter is now 19 and a freshman in that school. They borrow half of the money in the child's name and have been using an inheritance for the other half, but we believe that money will run out long before graduation.
The father has had cancer twice. We don't know exact figures on their finances, but he is in his early 60s, looks about 80, and without doubt has only meager savings towards retirement.
The larger issue is the daughter. This is a kid that was placed alone in front of a TV during her formative years, without any significant social interaction, by a mother that did nothing but hide in her bedroom while she prayed -- over a period of years. If you were to see how they live most would consider this couple to be lazy. The child had hearing, speaking, and some learning difficulties. We estimate that, though 19, her maturity and true academic development are that of someone around 10-12 years old. She is entertained by cartoons and laughs while watching them as would a toddler.
This child somehow got accepted into the private school. We believe it was because there is a long family legacy of graduates, including her brother (10 years older). After one semester she has already dropped two classes and "passed" the others. That is all we know. The mother brainwashes the child into keeping bad things secret, just as she has done for years. At one time, as a toddler, the child wandered off and onto the grounds of a school. A court had to get involved.
We think the college will pass her along, just as the high school did (with inflated, though marginal grades, via extra credit activities). Though 19, this child has never held so much as a minimum wage job. In fact she is yet to pass a driver's test. Instead of working during summers the mother has seen to it that she participates in various church activities. She believes that preserving religious belief is more important than preparing the child to live in secular society.
We think the child is a prime target for predatory males. Given her ignorance and naivety, I would not be surprised if she got pregnant, and then dumped. She has no attention span and cannot communicate ideas at a level consistent with someone who has reached their teens. She has no sense of direction. We don't think she could find her way home if placed somewhere in her home town (a large city).
We have been unable to reason with this family. Religious faith gets in the way, something impossible to counter because everything is based on "faith." In the best of circumstances this child should have entered vocational school to prepare for a job that is mindless and structured. What is very likely to happen, unless God intervenes, is that the child will begin life with debt ranging between 100-200 K$. She'll be unemployable, and since her parents will be on medicare, she'll be unable to get medical insurance through her parents.
I have been seeing an impending disaster for years. Anybody who has tried to advise these people gets cut off, making it in effect worse for the child. The college she attends is in my mind culpable. There is no reason this college "investment" makes sense other than being a windfall for the school. The kid is undeclared. She could have done two years at a community college if not for the brainless inflexibility of her mother, who controls the father. I'd be surprised if she could get a degree in anything more than something like Parks and Recreation. I am convinced that the overriding issue is a desire to preserve a family legacy at the school, and that religious belief has become internalized to justify this bad choice.
The problem I have is that my wife is attached to this child. We are retired and living on savings. Given the many problems I see in the American economy I do not believe we could provide support, even though we are an order of magnitude better off than her parents. I don't even think the parents will live long. They eat junk. My wife will not let me talk to the parents about their irresponsible choices. She doesn't want to get cut off further. The kid would be even worse off had my wife not helped during the childhood, so my wife is attached.
What to do? Having seen something like this it is clear to me that people are a function of their genes and how they are raised. Nothing more. When a parent tells me that they did everything right but their kid turned out wrong I don't believe them. They made costly mistakes somewhere along the way that they are unwilling to admit. In some way they were ignorant and were probably raised by ignorant parents themselves. I think children need positive, constructive, and direct interaction from their parents during their development. But in a lot of cases this has fallen by the wayside, for various reasons. One, I believe, is that both parents starting working to maintain a standard of living, at the expense of having enough energy left to provide the needed attention for their kids.
We now have a society loaded with dysfunctional people, addicted to their cell phones if not addicted to something much worse. Too many are unproductive, if not downright unemployable in a capitalistic society (which is the case, I believe, in this example). Though I've outlined an example for a girl, the problem is more pertinent for males, who tend to lack good fathers. As families are stressed and break apart it is male attention that tends to get sacrificed first, though I'm sure there are examples of it being the other way around.
If there are any bright ideas out there I'd love to hear them. This mess keeps me awake at night. When I'm on this board in the middle of the night you now know why.
The woman and her side of the family went to an expensive private school, which now would cost in total about $300,000 over four years. Their daughter is now 19 and a freshman in that school. They borrow half of the money in the child's name and have been using an inheritance for the other half, but we believe that money will run out long before graduation.
The father has had cancer twice. We don't know exact figures on their finances, but he is in his early 60s, looks about 80, and without doubt has only meager savings towards retirement.
The larger issue is the daughter. This is a kid that was placed alone in front of a TV during her formative years, without any significant social interaction, by a mother that did nothing but hide in her bedroom while she prayed -- over a period of years. If you were to see how they live most would consider this couple to be lazy. The child had hearing, speaking, and some learning difficulties. We estimate that, though 19, her maturity and true academic development are that of someone around 10-12 years old. She is entertained by cartoons and laughs while watching them as would a toddler.
This child somehow got accepted into the private school. We believe it was because there is a long family legacy of graduates, including her brother (10 years older). After one semester she has already dropped two classes and "passed" the others. That is all we know. The mother brainwashes the child into keeping bad things secret, just as she has done for years. At one time, as a toddler, the child wandered off and onto the grounds of a school. A court had to get involved.
We think the college will pass her along, just as the high school did (with inflated, though marginal grades, via extra credit activities). Though 19, this child has never held so much as a minimum wage job. In fact she is yet to pass a driver's test. Instead of working during summers the mother has seen to it that she participates in various church activities. She believes that preserving religious belief is more important than preparing the child to live in secular society.
We think the child is a prime target for predatory males. Given her ignorance and naivety, I would not be surprised if she got pregnant, and then dumped. She has no attention span and cannot communicate ideas at a level consistent with someone who has reached their teens. She has no sense of direction. We don't think she could find her way home if placed somewhere in her home town (a large city).
We have been unable to reason with this family. Religious faith gets in the way, something impossible to counter because everything is based on "faith." In the best of circumstances this child should have entered vocational school to prepare for a job that is mindless and structured. What is very likely to happen, unless God intervenes, is that the child will begin life with debt ranging between 100-200 K$. She'll be unemployable, and since her parents will be on medicare, she'll be unable to get medical insurance through her parents.
I have been seeing an impending disaster for years. Anybody who has tried to advise these people gets cut off, making it in effect worse for the child. The college she attends is in my mind culpable. There is no reason this college "investment" makes sense other than being a windfall for the school. The kid is undeclared. She could have done two years at a community college if not for the brainless inflexibility of her mother, who controls the father. I'd be surprised if she could get a degree in anything more than something like Parks and Recreation. I am convinced that the overriding issue is a desire to preserve a family legacy at the school, and that religious belief has become internalized to justify this bad choice.
The problem I have is that my wife is attached to this child. We are retired and living on savings. Given the many problems I see in the American economy I do not believe we could provide support, even though we are an order of magnitude better off than her parents. I don't even think the parents will live long. They eat junk. My wife will not let me talk to the parents about their irresponsible choices. She doesn't want to get cut off further. The kid would be even worse off had my wife not helped during the childhood, so my wife is attached.
What to do? Having seen something like this it is clear to me that people are a function of their genes and how they are raised. Nothing more. When a parent tells me that they did everything right but their kid turned out wrong I don't believe them. They made costly mistakes somewhere along the way that they are unwilling to admit. In some way they were ignorant and were probably raised by ignorant parents themselves. I think children need positive, constructive, and direct interaction from their parents during their development. But in a lot of cases this has fallen by the wayside, for various reasons. One, I believe, is that both parents starting working to maintain a standard of living, at the expense of having enough energy left to provide the needed attention for their kids.
We now have a society loaded with dysfunctional people, addicted to their cell phones if not addicted to something much worse. Too many are unproductive, if not downright unemployable in a capitalistic society (which is the case, I believe, in this example). Though I've outlined an example for a girl, the problem is more pertinent for males, who tend to lack good fathers. As families are stressed and break apart it is male attention that tends to get sacrificed first, though I'm sure there are examples of it being the other way around.
If there are any bright ideas out there I'd love to hear them. This mess keeps me awake at night. When I'm on this board in the middle of the night you now know why.
You would be shocked. Most would consider it mainstream. Elements of mentality like this can exist anywhere. Mentally ill people generally do not believe they are mentally ill.
This is what can happen when anyone can have a kid. Nature is about natural selection and survival of the fittest. In nature a family unit like this would get trampled and fazed out in some way, but we've found ways to counter nature and even proliferate this kind of thing. Nature shows that it is unsustainable.
