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(CNN)A new grand jury report says that internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.

"We believe that the real number of children whose records were lost or who were afraid ever to come forward is in the thousands," the grand jury report says.

"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades. Monsignors, auxiliary bishops, bishops, archbishops, cardinals have mostly been protected; many, including some named in this report, have been promoted. Until that changes, we think it is too early to close the book on the Catholic Church sex scandal."

The lengthy report, released Tuesday afternoon, investigates clergy sexual abuse in six dioceses dating back to 1947. Pennsylvania's two other dioceses, Philadelphia and Altoona-Johnstown, were the subjects of earlier grand jury reports, which found similarly damaging information about clergy and bishops in those dioceses.




Pennsylvania diocese names 71 clergy accused of sexual misconduct


"There have been other reports about child sex abuse within the Catholic Church. But never on this scale," the grand jurors wrote in Tuesday's report.

"For many of us, those earlier stories happened someplace else, someplace away. Now we know the truth: it happened everywhere."

The grand jurors said that "almost every instance of abuse we found is too old to be prosecuted." But charges have been filed against two priests, one in Erie diocese and another in Greensburg diocese, who have been accused of abusing minors.

"We learned of these abusers directly from their dioceses -- which we hope is a sign that the church is finally changing its ways," the grand jurors said. "And there may be more indictments in the future; investigation continues."

At a news conference announcing the report's release, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro called it the "largest, most comprehensive report into child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church ever produced in the United States."

Molestations and rapes

At times, the lengthy catalog of clergy sexual abuses in the report is difficult to read. As the grand jurors note, priests and other Catholic leaders victimized boys and girls, teens and pre-pubescent children.

Some victims were plied with alcohol and groped or molested, the report says. Others were orally, vaginally or anally raped, according to the grand jurors.

"But all of them were brushed aside, in every part of the state, by church leaders who preferred to protect the abusers and their institution above all."

Among the more egregious cases, the grand jury reports that:

• In the Greensburg diocese, a priest impregnated a 17-year-old, forged a pastor's signature on a marriage certificate and divorced the girl months later. According to the grand jury, the priest was allowed to stay in ministry by finding a "benevolent bishop."
• Another priest in Greensburg groomed middle-school students for sex, according to the grand jury, by telling them that Mary had to "bite off the cord" and "lick" Jesus clean after the Nativity.
• In Harrisburg, a priest abused five sisters from the same family and collected samples of their urine, pubic hair and menstrual blood.
• Also in Harrisburg, a priest raped a 7-year-old girl who was in the hospital after her tonsils were removed, according to the report.
• In Pittsburgh, church officials said that a 15-year-old boy "pursued" and "literally seduced" a priest. A church report later acknowledged that the priest had admitted to "sado-masochistic" activities with several boys.
• In the Allentown diocese, a priest admitted sexually molesting a boy and pleaded for help, according to documents, but was left in ministry for several more years.
• Also in Allentown, a priest who had abused several boys, according to the grand jury, was given a recommendation to work at Disney World.

Tuesday's news conference began with a short video of three victims who told how they were abused and how it changed their lives.

An 83-year-old man said he couldn't show any affection to his wife and children as a result of the abuse he suffered. A woman said the abuse started when she was 18 months old. Another man said, "When you have the priest touching you every day, that's a hard memory to have. The first erection that you have is at the hands of a priest."

The victims said this was "not a vendetta against the church" and that abusers have "to be accountable in the church for what they did."

'Grave failings'

The grand jury's searing report comes as the Catholic Church, including Pope Francis, is struggling to contain a sexual abuse scandal rapidly consuming the church on several continents.

In Australia, a bishop has been found guilty of covering up sexual abuse. In Chile, the Pope was forced to recant his dismissal of an abuse scandal involving a prominent priest and bishops accused of covering up his crimes.



Bishop says Catholic Church suffers from 'crisis of sexual morality'


And in the United States, a prominent archbishop was removed from the powerful College of Cardinals following reports that he had molested a teenage altar boy and several others while he was rising through the church's ranks. Meanwhile, bishops in Boston and Nebraska are investigating possible cases of sexual abuse in Catholic seminaries.

"The report of the Pennsylvania grand jury again illustrates the pain of those who have been victims of the crime of sexual abuse by individual members of our clergy, and by those who shielded abusers and so facilitated an evil that continued for years or even decades," Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and Bishop Timothy L. Doherty, chair of the bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, said in a statement.

"As a body of bishops, we are shamed by and sorry for the sins and omissions by Catholic priests and Catholic bishops."

DiNardo and Doherty noted that the grand jury's report spans 70 years, and many of the abuse accusations were made before 2002, when the bishops adopted new policies. The policies, known as the Dallas Charter, after the city in which they were adopted, have been revised in 2011 and 2018. The charter, the bishops said, "commits us to respond promptly and compassionately to victims, report the abuse of minors, remove offenders and take ongoing action to prevent abuse."
For weeks, many Catholics in the United States had been warily waiting for the Pennsylvania grand jury's report, especially as bishops in the state began publicly releasing the names of accused clergy in an apparent attempt to preempt some of the report's findings.

In a statement on Monday before the report was published, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the former Bishop of Pittsburgh who now heads the Archdiocese of Washington, said the report "will be a reminder of the grave failings that the church must acknowledge and for which it must seek forgiveness."

"We are now in the midst of a new era where our communal bonds of trust are once again being tested by the sin of abuse."

Delays in publication

Court action had delayed the report's publication. A number of individuals named in the report claimed that its findings were false or misleading, that they were denied due process of law and that its release would impair their reputations.

On July 27, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ordered the grand jury report to be released by 2 p.m. August 14 with redactions in sections where litigation was ongoing.

State Attorney General Josh Shapiro had written to Pope Francis on July 25, requesting that the Pontiff direct church leaders to stop "efforts to silence the survivors."

"A comprehensive investigation by the Office of Attorney General found widespread sexual abuse of children and a systematic coverup by leaders of the Catholic Church," Shapiro said in his letter. "Last month I planned to release the findings of our investigation. As I prepared to do so, anonymous petitioners implicated in this report went to court to stop me and silence the victims ..."
Shapiro later issued a statement welcoming the state Supreme Court's decision to allow the report's release.

"Our fear throughout this process has been that the entire grand jury report would be shelved and victims' truth would be silenced," Shapiro said. "Today's order ensures that will not be the case -- the redacted report on widespread sexual abuse and cover up within the Catholic Church will be released."

"I will continue to fight to ensure every single victim is heard and every priest, bishop and church official is held accountable for their abhorrent conduct. No one victim's truth is any less important than another and no one's criminal conduct any less loathsome."

Harrisburg abuse list

On August 1, the leader of one of the largest Roman Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania released a list identifying 71 priests, deacons and seminarians accused of "substantiated" sexual misconduct over the past seven decades.

Bishop Ronald Gainer of the Harrisburg Diocese also issued an apology on behalf of the religious community.

"That conduct has left a legacy of pain and sorrow that is still being felt," he wrote. "I apologize for these actions."

While most men on the Harrisburg list are accused of sexually abusing children, others were investigated for inappropriate behavior, such as kissing or inappropriately communicating with a minor, Gainer wrote. Others were accused of viewing or possessing child pornography.

The list did not say how the diocese handled most of the accusations and did not give the men's current whereabouts, though a few cases that were forwarded to civil authorities were more detailed.

Archbishop's resignation

A long series of abuse allegations have rocked the world's 1.2 billion Catholics since the scope of systemic abuse and cover-ups began emerging in 2002.

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US Cardinal resigns over abuse allegations 04:06

In July, Pope Francis accepted the resignation of Archbishop Theodore McCarrick from the College of Cardinals, one of the church's most powerful bodies, amid allegations of molestation and sexual misconduct. McCarrick, 88, had been a popular and politically influential leader in Washington. He maintained his innocence in June against some claims and has been unavailable to comment on others.

The sexual abuse accusations against McCarrick reveal a "grievous moral failure" within the Catholic Church, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops said July 31.
"Our Church is suffering from a crisis of sexual morality," Daniel DiNardo said. "The way forward must involve learning from past sins."

CNN's Carma Hassan and Janet DiGiacomo contributed to this report.
 
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A priest that taught me in high school is on the list. Nobody I know was targeted by him, so I don’t have even any 2nd hand accounts. We however all called this guy a molester and slurs for gay men that weren’t really frowned upon at the time behind his back. Everyone thought he was funny, but none of us teenagers were aware of any actual incidents. I wonder what adults in the school heard or felt about the guy?
 
I honestly find these claims to be hard to believe. perhaps I am naive in this, but I never thought I lived in a world with that many sexual predators and people that get off on sex with kids. Having said that, I am well aware that roman senators & Caligula had a child sex cruise ship.

I temper all of this is that this is the same PA state that made the outrageous "anal rape" accusations regarding the McQueary incident (never saw any evidence of it). In addition, no reference to how many of these cases occurred between 1947 (when they say the study started) to 2002 (when the Boston Globe won a Pulitzer for putting together the disparate pieces of child abuse in the RC Church).

In the scheme of things, I have come to the conclusion that, although I have enjoyed my sex life, I apparently left a lot on the table.
 
I honestly find these claims to be hard to believe. perhaps I am naive in this, but I never thought I lived in a world with that many sexual predators and people that get off on sex with kids. Having said that, I am well aware that roman senators & Caligula had a child sex cruise ship.

I temper all of this is that this is the same PA state that made the outrageous "anal rape" accusations regarding the McQueary incident (never saw any evidence of it). In addition, no reference to how many of these cases occurred between 1947 (when they say the study started) to 2002 (when the Boston Globe won a Pulitzer for putting together the disparate pieces of child abuse in the RC Church).

In the scheme of things, I have come to the conclusion that, although I have enjoyed my sex life, I apparently left a lot on the table.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post (and especially your last sentence) but the overwhelming majority of instances of abuse documented in this report appear to have occurred prior to 2002.
 
A priest that taught me in high school is on the list. Nobody I know was targeted by him, so I don’t have even any 2nd hand accounts. We however all called this guy a molester and slurs for gay men that weren’t really frowned upon at the time behind his back. Everyone thought he was funny, but none of us teenagers were aware of any actual incidents. I wonder what adults in the school heard or felt about the guy?
The priest at the church I grew up in is also on the list. He was very involved in the youth group of which I took part, and several of my friends were altar boys (not aware of any of them being abused).
He was a really great guy to be honest.
Fr. Sal Luzzi (St Joes in Warren PA)
 
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Hmmmmm, a Grand Jury report you say? How many states still use this archaic process? Not many, because it can be so highly biased, subject to political grandstanding and used to shape public opinion. I’m not saying that nothing happened but this is Kabuki theatre in my eyes because tha PA State OAG is involved in a highly suspect process.
 
Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post (and especially your last sentence) but the overwhelming majority of instances of abuse documented in this report appear to have occurred prior to 2002.
Thanks...I didn't see the dates of the claims detailed. My point is that there was a great awakening in 2002 about child sexual predators. There have been a lot of laws passed since then and a lot more awareness. I recall, as a male child, people "hitting on me". I had a guy who cut my hair used to drop his comb in my lap. A local tailor was famous for grabbing your nut sack to size your new trousers. We chalked them up as being weird and sick. You made sure you didn't "drop the soap in the shower". So, my point is, for good or for bad, events prior to 2002 are different than after as it relates to institutional culpability.
 
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I honestly find these claims to be hard to believe. perhaps I am naive in this, but I never thought I lived in a world with that many sexual predators and people that get off on sex with kids. Having said that, I am well aware that roman senators & Caligula had a child sex cruise ship.

I temper all of this is that this is the same PA state that made the outrageous "anal rape" accusations regarding the McQueary incident (never saw any evidence of it). In addition, no reference to how many of these cases occurred between 1947 (when they say the study started) to 2002 (when the Boston Globe won a Pulitzer for putting together the disparate pieces of child abuse in the RC Church).

In the scheme of things, I have come to the conclusion that, although I have enjoyed my sex life, I apparently left a lot on the table.
WTF?
 
Well, this is probably inappropriate but: #lossofinstitutionalcontrol

The Catholic Church has some serious ingrained institutional issues. How can one organization attract so may pedophiles? And why does the church continue to protect them?

As for people that can’t believe this could possibly be true, as Thomas Hobbes said “...life is...nasty, brutish, and short.” On top of that, perhaps because we live such a relatively easy and safe life in this country, we Americans often come off as being very naive about the shit that goes on every day in this world.
 
The priest who married my wife and me is on the list in the Allentown Diocese. My wife is particularly devastated. It was her church in Bethlehem. She attended a Catholic grade and high school.

Sorry to hear that. Makes it so hard to continue on as a practicing Catholic for many. Both sets of my grandparents never missed mass and it was drilled into all of us. My dad is the only one of my family who still goes. My mom won’t and my siblings and I married Protestants and decided to take up the spouses church.
 
I know 2 of them mofos on the list. One used to randomly come and watch the hockey game in my living room. Maybe I was on HIS list :eek:
 
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What's not in that report is some cases were turned over to county DA's and they did nothing. Who do we know that was a First Asst DA that had one of these cases turned over to them.

Ummm I can wait to find out ... I bet MM knows that Asst. Da
 
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I honestly find these claims to be hard to believe. perhaps I am naive in this, but I never thought I lived in a world with that many sexual predators and people that get off on sex with kids. Having said that, I am well aware that roman senators & Caligula had a child sex cruise ship.

I temper all of this is that this is the same PA state that made the outrageous "anal rape" accusations regarding the McQueary incident (never saw any evidence of it). In addition, no reference to how many of these cases occurred between 1947 (when they say the study started) to 2002 (when the Boston Globe won a Pulitzer for putting together the disparate pieces of child abuse in the RC Church).

In the scheme of things, I have come to the conclusion that, although I have enjoyed my sex life, I apparently left a lot on the table.
Seek mental help IMMEDIATELY!
 
Well, this is probably inappropriate but: #lossofinstitutionalcontrol

The Catholic Church has some serious ingrained institutional issues. How can one organization attract so may pedophiles? .

Well let's look up what can you do as a priest. Can you marry? Can you bone a woman? Can ya get a BJ?

Umm No

Look at the overwhelming majority in terms of age.

A certain lifestyle didnt really carry much weight until recently. Back in the day what type of career can you be lavished with money and respectability and still never address wheaher you are hetero or not?

Just a f'ed up theory on what attacks them to the club.
 
Well let's look up what can you do as a priest. Can you marry? Can you bone a woman? Can ya get a BJ?

Umm No

Look at the overwhelming majority in terms of age.

A certain lifestyle didnt really carry much weight until recently. Back in the day what type of career can you be lavished with money and respectability and still never address wheaher you are hetero or not?

Just a f'ed up theory on what attacks them to the club.
May be something to that theory. Never really thought about it like that.
 
The priest who married my wife and me is on the list in the Allentown Diocese. My wife is particularly devastated. It was her church in Bethlehem. She attended a Catholic grade and high school.

Damn, that sucks. My wife is absolutely devastated because the pastor who married us had an affair, but at least it was consensual and involved an adult woman.
 
Wow.

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(CNN)A new grand jury report says that internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.

"We believe that the real number of children whose records were lost or who were afraid ever to come forward is in the thousands," the grand jury report says.

"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades. Monsignors, auxiliary bishops, bishops, archbishops, cardinals have mostly been protected; many, including some named in this report, have been promoted. Until that changes, we think it is too early to close the book on the Catholic Church sex scandal."

The lengthy report, released Tuesday afternoon, investigates clergy sexual abuse in six dioceses dating back to 1947. Pennsylvania's two other dioceses, Philadelphia and Altoona-Johnstown, were the subjects of earlier grand jury reports, which found similarly damaging information about clergy and bishops in those dioceses.




Pennsylvania diocese names 71 clergy accused of sexual misconduct


"There have been other reports about child sex abuse within the Catholic Church. But never on this scale," the grand jurors wrote in Tuesday's report.

"For many of us, those earlier stories happened someplace else, someplace away. Now we know the truth: it happened everywhere."

The grand jurors said that "almost every instance of abuse we found is too old to be prosecuted." But charges have been filed against two priests, one in Erie diocese and another in Greensburg diocese, who have been accused of abusing minors.

"We learned of these abusers directly from their dioceses -- which we hope is a sign that the church is finally changing its ways," the grand jurors said. "And there may be more indictments in the future; investigation continues."

At a news conference announcing the report's release, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro called it the "largest, most comprehensive report into child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church ever produced in the United States."

Molestations and rapes

At times, the lengthy catalog of clergy sexual abuses in the report is difficult to read. As the grand jurors note, priests and other Catholic leaders victimized boys and girls, teens and pre-pubescent children.

Some victims were plied with alcohol and groped or molested, the report says. Others were orally, vaginally or anally raped, according to the grand jurors.

"But all of them were brushed aside, in every part of the state, by church leaders who preferred to protect the abusers and their institution above all."

Among the more egregious cases, the grand jury reports that:

• In the Greensburg diocese, a priest impregnated a 17-year-old, forged a pastor's signature on a marriage certificate and divorced the girl months later. According to the grand jury, the priest was allowed to stay in ministry by finding a "benevolent bishop."
• Another priest in Greensburg groomed middle-school students for sex, according to the grand jury, by telling them that Mary had to "bite off the cord" and "lick" Jesus clean after the Nativity.
• In Harrisburg, a priest abused five sisters from the same family and collected samples of their urine, pubic hair and menstrual blood.
• Also in Harrisburg, a priest raped a 7-year-old girl who was in the hospital after her tonsils were removed, according to the report.
• In Pittsburgh, church officials said that a 15-year-old boy "pursued" and "literally seduced" a priest. A church report later acknowledged that the priest had admitted to "sado-masochistic" activities with several boys.
• In the Allentown diocese, a priest admitted sexually molesting a boy and pleaded for help, according to documents, but was left in ministry for several more years.
• Also in Allentown, a priest who had abused several boys, according to the grand jury, was given a recommendation to work at Disney World.

Tuesday's news conference began with a short video of three victims who told how they were abused and how it changed their lives.

An 83-year-old man said he couldn't show any affection to his wife and children as a result of the abuse he suffered. A woman said the abuse started when she was 18 months old. Another man said, "When you have the priest touching you every day, that's a hard memory to have. The first erection that you have is at the hands of a priest."

The victims said this was "not a vendetta against the church" and that abusers have "to be accountable in the church for what they did."

'Grave failings'

The grand jury's searing report comes as the Catholic Church, including Pope Francis, is struggling to contain a sexual abuse scandal rapidly consuming the church on several continents.

In Australia, a bishop has been found guilty of covering up sexual abuse. In Chile, the Pope was forced to recant his dismissal of an abuse scandal involving a prominent priest and bishops accused of covering up his crimes.



Bishop says Catholic Church suffers from 'crisis of sexual morality'


And in the United States, a prominent archbishop was removed from the powerful College of Cardinals following reports that he had molested a teenage altar boy and several others while he was rising through the church's ranks. Meanwhile, bishops in Boston and Nebraska are investigating possible cases of sexual abuse in Catholic seminaries.

"The report of the Pennsylvania grand jury again illustrates the pain of those who have been victims of the crime of sexual abuse by individual members of our clergy, and by those who shielded abusers and so facilitated an evil that continued for years or even decades," Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and Bishop Timothy L. Doherty, chair of the bishops' Committee for the Protection of Children and Young People, said in a statement.

"As a body of bishops, we are shamed by and sorry for the sins and omissions by Catholic priests and Catholic bishops."

DiNardo and Doherty noted that the grand jury's report spans 70 years, and many of the abuse accusations were made before 2002, when the bishops adopted new policies. The policies, known as the Dallas Charter, after the city in which they were adopted, have been revised in 2011 and 2018. The charter, the bishops said, "commits us to respond promptly and compassionately to victims, report the abuse of minors, remove offenders and take ongoing action to prevent abuse."
For weeks, many Catholics in the United States had been warily waiting for the Pennsylvania grand jury's report, especially as bishops in the state began publicly releasing the names of accused clergy in an apparent attempt to preempt some of the report's findings.

In a statement on Monday before the report was published, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the former Bishop of Pittsburgh who now heads the Archdiocese of Washington, said the report "will be a reminder of the grave failings that the church must acknowledge and for which it must seek forgiveness."

"We are now in the midst of a new era where our communal bonds of trust are once again being tested by the sin of abuse."

Delays in publication

Court action had delayed the report's publication. A number of individuals named in the report claimed that its findings were false or misleading, that they were denied due process of law and that its release would impair their reputations.

On July 27, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ordered the grand jury report to be released by 2 p.m. August 14 with redactions in sections where litigation was ongoing.

State Attorney General Josh Shapiro had written to Pope Francis on July 25, requesting that the Pontiff direct church leaders to stop "efforts to silence the survivors."

"A comprehensive investigation by the Office of Attorney General found widespread sexual abuse of children and a systematic coverup by leaders of the Catholic Church," Shapiro said in his letter. "Last month I planned to release the findings of our investigation. As I prepared to do so, anonymous petitioners implicated in this report went to court to stop me and silence the victims ..."
Shapiro later issued a statement welcoming the state Supreme Court's decision to allow the report's release.

"Our fear throughout this process has been that the entire grand jury report would be shelved and victims' truth would be silenced," Shapiro said. "Today's order ensures that will not be the case -- the redacted report on widespread sexual abuse and cover up within the Catholic Church will be released."

"I will continue to fight to ensure every single victim is heard and every priest, bishop and church official is held accountable for their abhorrent conduct. No one victim's truth is any less important than another and no one's criminal conduct any less loathsome."

Harrisburg abuse list

On August 1, the leader of one of the largest Roman Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania released a list identifying 71 priests, deacons and seminarians accused of "substantiated" sexual misconduct over the past seven decades.

Bishop Ronald Gainer of the Harrisburg Diocese also issued an apology on behalf of the religious community.

"That conduct has left a legacy of pain and sorrow that is still being felt," he wrote. "I apologize for these actions."

While most men on the Harrisburg list are accused of sexually abusing children, others were investigated for inappropriate behavior, such as kissing or inappropriately communicating with a minor, Gainer wrote. Others were accused of viewing or possessing child pornography.

The list did not say how the diocese handled most of the accusations and did not give the men's current whereabouts, though a few cases that were forwarded to civil authorities were more detailed.

Archbishop's resignation

A long series of abuse allegations have rocked the world's 1.2 billion Catholics since the scope of systemic abuse and cover-ups began emerging in 2002.

180728152806-exp-pope-accepts-resignation-over-sex-abuse-claims-00002001-medium-plus-169.jpg



US Cardinal resigns over abuse allegations 04:06

In July, Pope Francis accepted the resignation of Archbishop Theodore McCarrick from the College of Cardinals, one of the church's most powerful bodies, amid allegations of molestation and sexual misconduct. McCarrick, 88, had been a popular and politically influential leader in Washington. He maintained his innocence in June against some claims and has been unavailable to comment on others.

The sexual abuse accusations against McCarrick reveal a "grievous moral failure" within the Catholic Church, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops said July 31.
"Our Church is suffering from a crisis of sexual morality," Daniel DiNardo said. "The way forward must involve learning from past sins."

CNN's Carma Hassan and Janet DiGiacomo contributed to this report.
Prayers to everyone who knows someone named in this report, and was affected by this.
 
May be something to that theory. Never really thought about it like that.


You recognize in your early 20's that you are attracted to young boys sexually. Name a profession that has more private access to young boys than a priest. That is why. If you are a pedophile, you look for a profession or way to get access in a setting that you cannot get caught. that isn't being an auto mechanic or an accountant. To be honest, after the JS scandal, I now look at some people that I see in certain positions in jobs around kids and wonder myself sometimes about them.
 
You recognize in your early 20's that you are attracted to young boys sexually. Name a profession that has more private access to young boys than a priest. That is why. If you are a pedophile, you look for a profession or way to get access in a setting that you cannot get caught. that isn't being an auto mechanic or an accountant. To be honest, after the JS scandal, I now look at some people that I see in certain positions in jobs around kids and wonder myself sometimes about them.
Well said.
 
I need to thoroughly review the list. I know a few names that aren’t on here, including 1 from Altoona who was charged.
 
One of the priests on the Harrisburg list married my wife and me 38 years ago. He didn't hit on either of us and my kids weren't born yet.
 
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I need to thoroughly review the list. I know a few names that aren’t on here, including 1 from Altoona who was charged.
Nothing from either the Altoona-Johnstown or Philadelphia dioceses are in this report; they were detailed by earlier grand jury reports.
 
I have family and friends that are devoutly Catholic. That said, I love them, but think the Catholic Church is one of the most vile and despicable organizations in this world.
Well, if not that, certainly the most hypocritical. So thankful not to have been raised Catholic.
That said, this should be no reflection on those that were. Many, many great people I know are followers of the doctrine.
 
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I just googled the Altoona list. A couple of high school principals named. Hadn’t seen that report from 2016.
 
You recognize in your early 20's that you are attracted to young boys sexually. Name a profession that has more private access to young boys than a priest. That is why. If you are a pedophile, you look for a profession or way to get access in a setting that you cannot get caught. that isn't being an auto mechanic or an accountant. To be honest, after the JS scandal, I now look at some people that I see in certain positions in jobs around kids and wonder myself sometimes about them.

After the Sandusky scandal broke I told people I work with that they should be skeptical of me because I chose a profession working with children. I always tell them that it may only be 1 in 10,000 (made up stat) of us that sexually abuse children, but it is 100% of abusers who find their way into authority roles with children.
Honestly, it’s disgusting but until people are ready to talk about it the problem will go on and on.
 
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